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William Barnes 1884 -1938

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Yvonne

Yvonne Report 16 Apr 2012 07:01

Hi I am still trying to find any info on my late grandfather William Barnes I have found when- where- and from which illness he died but I can not find who his parents were .I believe he was born Essex/ Suffolk .I have since found out that he lived with Maud playle but they never married and had 4 children one of which was my late Father.If there is anyone out there that can help me find my late grandfathers parents I would be very grateful.

Many Thanks Yvonne

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Apr 2012 07:25

Hello Yvonne,
can you give us an idea of dates for him?...

Chris :)

edits (related Thread below)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1280732

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1236459

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 16 Apr 2012 07:29

I notice that the couples children were all born in the same registration district between 1914~1925. There is a gap in the births between 1915 and 1920 which might indicate that William was involved in WW1. Have you looked to see whether there are any military records such as a service record or pension record for William?

Also Post 1918 electoral registers of the address where their children were born might provide a clue if any family members of William lived either with or near to him.

Another thought. As William presumably (But not certainly) was approximately 29/30 at the time of the birth of his and Maud's first child his occupation at the time may have been the same as that given for him at the time of the 1911 census. Do you know what his occupation was at the time of the birth?

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 16 Apr 2012 07:46

Could this be a connection???

1911:
BARNES, Charles Head Married M 64 1847 Farm Labourer Essex Steeple Bumpstead
BARNES, Ann Wife Married
44 years F 65 1846 Suffolk Hartest
>>>BARNES, William Son Single M 27 1884 Farm Labourer Essex Birdbrook
BARNES, Lilian Granddaughter Single F 1 1910 Essex Halstead
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
10495 Reference:
RG14PN10495 RG78PN560 RD204 SD1 ED1 SN117

Registration District:
Risbridge Sub District:
Haverhill Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Steeple Bumpstead

Address:
Eggshell End Steeple Bumpstead County:
Suffolk

1911:
PLAYLE, William Head Married M 49 1862 Farm Labourer Essex Stambourne Essex
PLAYLE, Rossana Wife Married
25 years F 48 1863 Essex Ridgewell Essex
PLAYLE, Henry William Son Single M 20 1891 Milkman On Farm Essex Birdbrook Essex
>>>PLAYLE, Maud Lily Daughter Single F 17 1894 Essex Stambourne
PLAYLE, James Son Single M 15 1896 Stockman On Farm Essex Birfbrook
PLAYLE, Jane Daughter F 12 1899 School Essex Ridgewell
PLAYLE, Frances Daughter F 7 1904 School Essex Steeple Bumpstead
SMITH, George Son In Law Married M 34 1877 Farm Labourer Essex Steeple Bumpstead
SMITH, Emily Daughter Married
2 years F 26 1885 Essex Ridgwell
SMITH, May Granddaughter F 4 1907 Essex Steeple Bumpstead
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
10495 Reference:
RG14PN10495 RG78PN560 RD204 SD1 ED1 SN102

Registration District:
Risbridge Sub District:
Haverhill Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Steeple Bumpstead

Address:
Broad Green Steeple Bumpstead County:
Suffolk

Births Jun 1883
BARNES William Risbridge 4a 565

N.B. Birdbrook was within the Risbridge Registration District.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Apr 2012 07:51

Deaths Sep 1938 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------
BARNES William 54 Orsett 4a 476

(is this his Death?)

Chris :)

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 16 Apr 2012 08:06

Based upon information gleaned from the other threads I am now reasonably confident that the William Barnes living as a farm labourer in Steeple Bumpstead in 1911 is the man being enquired about.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Apr 2012 08:11

1891
BARNES, Charles Head Married M 43 1848 Agricultural Laborer
Steeple Bumpstead
Essex
BARNES, Ann Wife Married F 42 1849
Hartest
Suffolk
BARNES, John Son Single M 16 1875 Agricultural Laborer
Steeple Bumpstead
Essex
BARNES, Thomas Son Single M 15 1876 Agricultural Laborer
Steeple Bumpstead
Essex
BARNES, Walter Son M 13 1878 Agricultural Laborer
Steeple Bumpstead
Essex
BARNES, Mary Daughter F 11 1880
Steeple Bumpstead
Essex
BARNES, Willie Son M 9 1882
Steeple Bumpstead
Essex
BARNES, Sarah Daughter F 6 1885
Birdbrook
Essex
BARNES, Alfred Grandson M 5 1886
Kedington
Suffolk
BARNES, Annie Daughter F 4 1887
Birdbrook
Essex
BARNES, Ellis Son M 0 (10M) 1891
Steeple Bumpstead
Essex
Piece:
1435 Folio:
12 Page:
18 Registration District:
Risbridge
Civil Parish:
Steeple Bumpstead Municipal Borough:
Address:
Eggshell End, Steeple Bumpstead County:
Suffolk

1901
BARNES, Charles Head Married M 54 1847 General Agril Labourer
Steeple Bumpstead
Essex
BARNES, Ann Wife Married F 53 1848
Hartest
Suffolk
BARNES, William Son Single M 18 1883 Blacksmith
Steeple Bumpstead
Essex
BARNES, Ann Daughter Single F 14 1887
Birdbrook
Essex
BARNES, Ellis Son M 11 1890
Steeple Bumpstead
Essex
BARNES, Lily Daughter F 9 1892
Steeple Bumpstead
Essex
Piece:
1737 Folio:
20 Page:
31 Registration District:
Risbridge
Civil Parish:
Steeple Bumpstead (Essex) Municipal Borough:
Address:
Eggshele Cottage, Steeple Bumpstead (Essex) County:
Suffolk

Chris :)

edits (adding below 1891 Neighbours to Charles Barnes above)

PLAYLE, Edward Head Married M 62 1829 Agricultural Laborer
Stambourne, Essex
PLAYLE, Roseanna Wife Married F 49 1842
Stambourne, Essex
PLAYLE, George Son Single M 23 1868
Stambourne, Essex
PLAYLE, Frederick Son Single M 16 1875
Birdbrook, Essex
PLAYLE, Lily Daughter F 13 1878
Birdbrook, Essex
PLAYLE, Rosey Daughter F 11 1880 Scholar
Steeple Bumpstead, Essex
PLAYLE, Kate Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar
Steeple Bumpstead, Essex
PLAYLE, Albert Son M 4 1887 Scholar
Steeple Bumpstead, Essex
Piece: 1435
Folio: 12
Page: 18
Registration District: Risbridge
Civil Parish: Steeple Bumpstead
Municipal Borough:
Address: Martins Farm, Eggshell End, Steeple Bumpstead
County: Suffolk


Yvonne

Yvonne Report 17 Apr 2012 08:10

Thank you very much for your replies above .All I can say is William was a farm labourer on a farm in Essex when the children were born I have written to the farm owner a few days ago to see if he has any records dateing back of the family but I am still waiting for a reply.The only dates I have for William are that he was born 1884 dont know where either Essex or Suffolk and died 1938 [have death cert] I dont have any info as to who his parents were.Don,t know if he was in the forces.As the name is quite common its hard to find which ones are family when I have such little info to tie them up.I will look futher with the info above and fingers crossed will have good news. Many thanks again . YVONNE