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Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me... I've hit a bit of a wall with part of my family tree.

A George Whitehead (1811-1882) Married a Maria Smith (1811-1890)
I have found that they had 13 (possibly 14 children).
This is what I'm having trouble with. I have confirmed 13 children via census records etc. However in the 1861 Census, there is a record for a son Called George Whitehead (Born 1859). But upon checking the 1871 census he is then listed as the grandson... An obvious problem... Is anyone able to confirm whether or not this second George is infact a son or a grandson of the first? If so, who his mother/Father is?
I'll list the 13 children just for clarification.

John Whitehead (1831-1885)
Maria Whitehead (1833-?)
Martha Whitehead (1835-1835)
Lydia Whitehead (1836-1910)
George Whitehead (1838-?)
William Whitehead (1841-?)
Thomas Whitehead (1843-?)
Daniel Whitehead (1845-?)
Mary Whitehead (1847-?)
Henry Whitehead (1849-1903)
Arthur Whitehead (1852-?)
Ann Whitehead (1853-?)
Charles Whitehead (1857-1926)

Thankyou ever so much!
I don apologise for all the George's... My family obviously liked that name.

The immediate assumption is that the boy was the illegitimate son of one of the daughters

Could you provide us with some location info, please..................

OK .....found 1871

Name: George Whitehead
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Farnborough, Kent, England
Civil parish: Bromley
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: Bromley
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Bromley
Sub-registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 103
Piece: 874
Folio: 117
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
George Whitehead 61
Maria Whitehead 59
Ann Whitehead 19
Charles Whitehead 16
George Whitehead 12

If the boy married, and knew his father, the details will be on the marriage cert

Of course, he could also name his grandfather as his father........

Is this him in 1901?

If so - note that one of his children is named Lydia


Name: George Whitehead
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Caroline Whitehead
Gender: Male
Where born: Bromley, Kent, England
Civil parish: Bromley
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Bromley
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Bromley
Sub-registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 117
Piece: 685
Folio: 35
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
George Whitehead 40
Caroline Whitehead 43
George Whitehead 19
Charles Whitehead 12
Lydia Whitehead 10
Thomas H Whitehead 8
Elizabeth R Whitehead 5


His birth does not appear to have been registered, so no help there

Hello Philippa, Welcome to the boards :-)


George Whitehead Compact Disc #138 Pin #3138658 Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Birth: 10 Mar 1811

Chelsfield, Kent, England
Death: 1882

Chelsfield, Kent, England

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Parents
Father: John Whitehead Disc #138 Pin #3138772
Mother: Mary Temple Disc #138 Pin #3138773

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Maria Smith Disc #138 Pin #3138659
Marriage:

1881

George WHITEHEAD Head M Male 71 Chelsfield, Kent, England Genl Labr
Maria WHITEHEAD Wife M Female 70 Chelsfield, Kent, England
Thomas WHITEHEAD Son U Male 39 Chelsfield, Kent, England Genl Labr
Henry WHITEHEAD Son U Male 38 Chelsfield, Kent, England Genl Labr
Phillip WHITEHEAD Son U Male 31 Chelsfield, Kent, England Genl Labr


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Source Information:
Dwelling 26 Shirecorner Rd
Census Place Bromley, Kent, England
Family History Library Film 1341203
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0855 / 48
Page Number 35

1881

George WHITEHEAD Head M Male 22 Bromley, Kent, England Builders Lab
Alice WHITEHEAD Wife M Female 24 Bromley, Kent, England Builders Lab Wife
Samuel WHITEHEAD Brother U Male 21 Bromley, Kent, England Ag Lab
Emma WHITEHEAD Daur Female 4 Bromley, Kent, England Scholar
Sarah WHITEHEAD Daur Female 1 Bromley, Kent, England
Stephen GURR Boarder U Male 19 Bromley, Kent, England Gen Lab


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Source Information:
Dwelling 9 Oakley Rd
Census Place Bromley, Kent, England
Family History Library Film 1341203
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0855 / 40
Page Number 20

Philip Whitehead
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 11 May 1851 Chelsfield,? Kent,? England
residence: Kent,? England
parents: George Whitehead,? Maria



Henry Whitehead
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 18 Mar 1849 Chelsfield,? Kent,? England
residence: Kent,? England
parents: George Whitehead,? Maria



Mary Whitehead
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 05 Jan 1847
christening: 07 Mar 1847 CHELSFIELD,?KENT,?ENGLAND
parents: George Whitehead,? Maria



George Whitehead
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 08 Jul 1838 CHELSFIELD,?KENT,?ENGLAND
parents: George Whitehead,? Maria



Martha Whitehead
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 02 Jan 1835 CHELSFIELD,?KENT,?ENGLAND
parents: George Whitehead,? Maria



William Whitehead
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 16 Aug 1840 CHELSFIELD,?KENT,?ENGLAND
parents: George Whitehead,? Maria



Thomas Whitehead
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 19 Jun 1842 CHELSFIELD,?KENT,?ENGLAND
parents: George Whitehead,? Maria



Philip Whitehead
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 11 May 1851 CHELSFIELD,?KENT,?ENGLAND
parents: George Whitehead,? Maria



Henry Whitehead
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 18 Mar 1849 CHELSFIELD,?KENT,?ENGLAND
parents: George Whitehead,? Maria

name: George /Whitehead/
gender: Male
birth: 1811
Chelsfield, Kent


Marriages (1)
spouse: Maria /Smith/
Hide children (1)

child 1: Lydia /Whitehead/
gender: Female
BIRTH 1835
Chelsfield, Kent
CHRISTENING 1836
St Martins, Chelsfield
DEATH 1910

BURIAL All Saints, Orpington

name: Maria /Whitehead/
gender: Female
birth: 1834
Knockholt


Parents
father: George /Whitehead/
mother: Maria /Smith/

name: George /Whitehead/
gender: Male
birth: 1811
Chelsfield, Kent
death: 1882
Bromley


Marriages (1)
spouse: Maria /Smith/
Hide children (14)

child 1: Mary /Whitehead/
gender: Female
BIRTH 1832


child 2: Maria /Whitehead/
gender: Female
BIRTH 1834
Knockholt

child 3: Thomas /Whitehead/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1842
Chelsfield, Kent
CHRISTENING 19 JUN 1842
St Martins, Chelsfield

child 4: John /Whitehead/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1831
Knockholt, Kent

child 5: Arthur /Whitehead/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1853
Chelsfield, Kent

child 6: Henry /Whitehead/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1849
Chelsfield, Kent
CHRISTENING 18 MAR 1849
St Martins, Chelsfield
DEATH 1903


child 7: Ann /Whitehead/
gender: Female
BIRTH 1854
Chelsfield, Kent

child 8: Martha /Whitehead/
gender: Female
BIRTH 1835

CHRISTENING 1835
St Martins, Chelsfield
DEATH 1835


child 9: Daniel /Whitehead/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1845
Chelsfield, Kent

child 10: William /Whitehead/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1840
Chelsfield, Kent
CHRISTENING 16 AUG 1840
St Martins, Chelsfield

child 11: George /Whitehead/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1838
Chelsfield, Kent
CHRISTENING 28 JUL 1838
St Martins, Chelsfield

child 12: Philip /Whitehead/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1851
Chelsfield, Kent
CHRISTENING 5 NOV 1851
St Martins, Chelsfield

child 13: Charles /Whitehead/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1857
Chelsfield, Kent

child 14: Lydia /Whitehead/
gender: Female
BIRTH 1835
Chelsfield, Kent
CHRISTENING 1836
St Martins, Chelsfield
DEATH 1910

BURIAL All Saints, Orpington
Witnesses Henry Whitehead and Lydia Jane Wood

14 children in all!!!

Thankyou all so much for the help!

Reggie's post about George marrying a Caroline is sounding like it might be the person I'm looking for, as not only is a son named after him, but 3 other children have the same name as his aunt's/uncles.

It is interesting that his birth doesn't appear to be registered though...

I'm also struggling to find death dates (or even just years) for several of the 14 children. Is anyone able to help with that?

Oh and also...
My grandmother Dorothy Lilian Start was born 21st August 1931 in India. Into a military family
She had a brother names James Start born 1933 (unfourtunately, I don't know where he was born...)

Due to the fact she was born in india I've been unable to find a birth record for her, and therefore her parents etc. How would I go about tracing her side of the tree?

Cheers.

You could buy her marriage cert, to find out her father's name

Name: Dorothy L Start
Spouse Surname: Whitehead
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1953
Registration district: Bromley
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 200
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

To find the deaths - look at freebmd

Age at death is on the index after 1869

Name: Dorothy L Start
Birth Date: abt 1931
Age: 16
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 18 Aug 1947
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Montreal
Ship Name: Scythia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Scythia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific
Official Number: 166218

Travelled alone

Destination address: 77 Scott Moncreiff Sq., Aldershot

1911 census

Person: WHITEHEAD, Daniel Address: 3 Lower Gravel Road Bromley Common
Cost

WHITEHEAD, Emma Wife Married40 years F 68 1843 Bromley Kent VIEW
WHITEHEAD, Daniel Head Married M 68 1843 Farm Labourer Bromley Kent VIEW
WHITEHEAD, Amy Daughter Single F 23 1888 Laundry Maid Bromley Kent VIEW
WHITEHEAD, Frederick Grandson M 6 1905 School Bromley Kent VIEW
BRIDGER, David Boarder Single M 65 1846 Farm Labourer Farnborough Kent VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 3652
Reference: RG14PN3652 RG78PN137 RD42 SD1 ED23 SN91
Registration District: Bromley
Sub District: Bromley
Enumeration District: 23

1911 census

Person: WHITEHEAD, Arthur Address: Dipper Slip St Mary Cray
Cost


WHITEHEAD, Arthur Head Widower M 60 1851 Fram Labourer Kent Bromley VIEW
WHITEHEAD, Ethel Daughter Single F 19 1892 Kent St Mary Cray Parish VIEW
WHITEHEAD, Nellie Daughter F 10 1901 School Kent St Mary Cray Parish VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 3703 Reference: RG14PN3703 RG78PN139 RD42 SD3 ED16 SN22 Registration District: Bromley Sub District: Orpington Enumeration District: 16 Parish: St Mary Cray

a few Start's on the India family site

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Name: Joseph John START
Event type: MarriageStart date: 21 Mar
Start year: 1935
End date: End year: Location: Reg. Office,
Simla
Spouse: Beatrice WARKAge: 28
Status: soldier
Parents: Joseph
Notes: Transcribed by: British LibraryIndia Office Records Reference:
N/1/563 f.104