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Michael Joseph Quinton - Ireland

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Paul

Paul Report 30 Jun 2012 06:54

Hi!
I'm hoping to find out any information about my great-grandfather - Michael Joseph Quinton.
He was born in Templescoby, Enniscorthy, County Wexford, Ireland around 1858 or 1859.
His parents were Michael Quinton and Cecelia Bradley. He had a sister - Catherine Celia Quinton (b. 1855 d. 1926)
In 1877; Michael, Catherine and their Mother all immigrated to Sydney, Australia.
Anything about any of these people would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Paul Quinton.

patchem

patchem Report 30 Jun 2012 07:28

Just for ref?
Michael Quinton
Age: 18
Birth Year: abt 1858
Place of Origin: Wexford, Ireland
Immigration Date: 8 Jun 1877
Ship: St Lawrence
Sponsor Name: James Kirgan
Deposit Date: 2 Oct 1876
Immigration Group:
Name
Michael Quinton

Paul

Paul Report 30 Jun 2012 08:37

Yes. That's him. :)
There are some details there that i wasn't aware of. Do you have any more information?

Thank you! :)

Barry

Barry Report 30 Jun 2012 13:57

Paul,
If that is your tree on Ancestry, you already seem to have loads of info for this family - I was just wondering what additional info you were specifically looking for
According to the tree Catherine married a James KIrgan in NSW before the immigration date that you quoted, or was the 1877 voyage her 2nd entry into Australia ?
Or perhaps it is another Paul Quinton that owns this tree

Paul

Paul Report 30 Jun 2012 15:04

Hi Barry.
Yes, that is my tree on Ancestry.
I've got a great deal of information, but the man is still quite a mystery. Probably more so after he came to Australia, but I'd also like to know about his life and his family and ancestors he had in Ireland before he immigrated.

Yes, I realised that my initial information about Catherine immigrating in 1877 was incorrect. She was already living in Australia by then as she had married James Kirgan in 1875.

Gins

Gins Report 30 Jun 2012 15:05

Is this your man?


New South Wales, Australia, Registers of Coroners' Inquests, 1796-1942
Name: Joseph Quinton
Inquest Date: 8 May 1911
Inquest Location: Tingha
Death Place: Tingha
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Birth Place: Dublin, Ireland

Verdict: Accidentally drowned after falling into a shaft, containing eight feet of water

Gins

Gins Report 30 Jun 2012 15:12

Have you got the parents marriage certificate?


Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958

Name: Michael Quinton - Cecilia Bradley
Date of Registration: 1849
Registration district: Enniscorthy
Volume: 5
Page: 694
FHL Film Number: 101242

Gins

Gins Report 30 Jun 2012 15:21

Have you got a marriage for Michael?


Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Michael J Quinton
Spouse Name: Ann G C Anderson
Marriage Date: 1883
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1883
Registration number: 370


Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Ann G C Anderson
Birth Date: 1847
Father's Name: Anderson
Mother's name: Agnus S
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1847
Registration Place: Sydeny, New South Wales
Volume Number: V1847275 58


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Annie C Quinton
Death Date: 1884
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: William A
Mother's name: Agnes
Registration Year: 1884
Registration Place: Redfern, New South Wales
Registration number: 5061


Gins

Gins Report 30 Jun 2012 15:24

That tree on ancestry has Michael Joseph marrying this woman, but the groom is 'John'



Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: John Quinton
Spouse Name: Rosina C Boorn
Marriage Date: 1886
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Redfern, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1886
Registration number: 3518


Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Rosina Christina Boorn
Father's Name: William Thomas Boorn
Mother's name: Elizabeth Jane Bird
Birth Place: Melbourne, Victoria
Registration Year: 1867
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 23166





Checked the children from the above marriage and they all have Michael listed as the father

Paul

Paul Report 30 Jun 2012 19:45

Thank you for all of that updated information. Most of that I already have, but I did not know when Michael's parents were married.

There is confusion with Michael marrying Ann Anderson and Rosina Boorn marrying John Quinton. On Rosina's Marriage certificate, John's occupation is listed as 'Fireman'. On Michael's marriage certifcate, his occupation is listed as 'Fireman'. Is this a huge coincidence, or is it the same man?
Michael's name appears on all of the children's birth certificates where Rosina is listed as the mother. His occupations is also shown as 'Fireman'.

He could also just as easily be the Joseph Quinton you listed above too!

I know that Rosina re-married to a man named William H Bullock in 1914. Just to create more confusion, her name was listed as "Rosina C Kirgan". The Kirgan name is another story altogether!
I have no record of Michael divorcing Ann, nor do I have any record of his death.

Any help with this information would be greatly appreciated as well. :)

Gins

Gins Report 1 Jul 2012 07:57

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: William H Bullock
Spouse Name: Rosina C Kirgan
Marriage Date: 1914
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Newtown, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1914
Registration number: 10087

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Rosina C Bullock
Death Date: 1919
Death Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1919
Registration Place: Burwood, New South Wales
Registration number: 7973


Are these Williams other marriages?
___________________________________________________________
Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: William H Bullock
Spouse Name: Edith I Currie
Marriage Date: 1909
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1909
Registration number: 6742

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Edith I Currie
Birth Date: 1892
Father's Name: John A Currie
Mother's name: Mary
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1892
Registration Place: Paddington, New South Wales
Registration number: 27794

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Edith Bullock
Death Date: 1912
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: John
Mother's name: Mary
Registration Year: 1912
Registration Place: Cargo, New South Wales
Registration number: 1081
____________________________________________________________

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: William H Bullock
Spouse Name: Nellie Dalley
Marriage Date: 1917
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Newtown, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1917
Registration number: 10714

If this 1917 marriage is the same person, then he married again while Rosina was still alive?

Why was she listed as 'Kirgan'

Gins

Gins Report 1 Jul 2012 08:00

This is the death corresponding to the inquest that I posted earlier. I think you need to buy the certificate to check the details.

It would make sense that this is the husband of Rosina as she marries again a couple of years later


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Joseph Quinton
Death Date: 1911
Death Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1911
Registration Place: Tingha, New South Wales
Registration number: 7749



Ive added info to the Anderson/Quinton marriage in 1883, Ann died within a year of marriage

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 1 Jul 2012 08:34

His marriage notice:

The Sydney Morning Herald, Tuesday 17 April 1883
QUINTON—ANDERSON.—February 24, 1883, at the Presbyterian Manse, Michael Joseph Quinton, of Sydney, to Ann Galloway Cecilia Anderson, only daughter of Captain W. Anderson, of Arbroath, Scotland. Home papers please copy.

As Gins has posted, looks like Ann died in 1884; they had no children.

Gins

Gins Report 1 Jul 2012 08:49

Thanks Cherilyn


I cant see a death for Nellie Bullock (Dalley) after the marriage in 1917?

Paul

Paul Report 1 Jul 2012 10:46

Thank you Gins and Cherilyn. :)

There is some very interesting information there.

It's intriguing to me that the same man (William H Bullock) could marry so many women in such a short period of time. 1909, 1914 and then 1917? Was he marrying women who were about to pass away?

If the death record I found for him is correct, he would've been 70 when he married Rosina! (I've only been able to find one death record for him).

Where did you find the info about Ann dieing? There is nothing on the NSW Births, Deaths and Marriages website about it.

cupcakes

cupcakes Report 1 Jul 2012 12:51

Divorse....NSW

2138 / 1896

KIRGAN James

KIRGAN Catherine Cecilia

cupcakes

cupcakes Report 1 Jul 2012 14:03

BIRTHS...NSW

11832/1888 QUINTON VIOLET C MICHAEL J ROSENA C REDFERN

27646/1894 QUINTON RUPERT L MICHAEL J ROSINA C PETERSHAM

17488/1897 QUINTON DAVID K MICHAEL J ROSINA C WATERLOO

30457/1907 QUINTON WILLIAM W K MICHAEL J ROSINA C WATERLOO

35630/1899 QUINTON HENRY J MICHAEL J ROSINA C WATERLOO


9683/1890 QUINTON ETHEL M JOSEPH ROSINA C NEWTOWN

cupcakes

cupcakes Report 1 Jul 2012 14:10

David Kirgin QUINTON
Regimental number 2647
Religion Church of England
Occupation Warehouseman
Address 55 Kingslear Road, Alexandria, New South Wales
Marital status Single
Age at embarkation 18
Next of kin Mother, Mrs R C Bullock, 55 Kingsclear Road, Alexandria, New South Wales
Enlistment date 21 June 1915
Date of enlistment from Nominal Roll 24 June 1915
Rank on enlistment Private
Unit name 1st Battalion, 8th Reinforcement
AWM Embarkation Roll number 23/18/2
Embarkation details Unit embarked from Sydney, New South Wales, on board HMAT A54 Runic on 9 August 1915
Rank from Nominal Roll Private
Unit from Nominal Roll 53rd Battalion
Fate Returned to Australia 27 September 1917
Miscellaneous details (Nominal Roll) *Spelt David Kirgan Quinton on NR

cupcakes

cupcakes Report 1 Jul 2012 14:21

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)
Wednesday 27 November 1918, page 13

Florence Quinton (formerly Cocklin) v Rupert Lawrence Quinton, on the ground of desertion

Paul

Paul Report 1 Jul 2012 15:41

That last entry is rather confusing.

Rupert married Jessie Frances Cocklin in 1914. I'm not sure where the name 'Florence' comes from.

I also found newspaper court records from 1912 of Rupert having to face court over a criminal assault.