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MarieCeleste Report 16 Sep 2012 22:34

Hi Debbie, you can't actually access the film itself - you would need to order a copy of the marriage certificate.

This thread gives some advice about Irish records


Deborah Report 16 Sep 2012 20:04

Thank you to everyone who is helping me with this enquiry. MarieCeleste, you have found the marriage details of Charles John Brice how do I retrieve the information from the film?

Regards Debbie x


MarieCeleste Report 16 Sep 2012 19:23

pm from Debbie

"Hi MarieCeleste

Eileen's father was Charles John Brice or Cardiff.

Regards Debbie"

have asked for replies to be on here.


Deborah Report 8 Sep 2012 15:29

Margaret lived in Queenstown Cork Ireland .


Deborah Report 8 Sep 2012 15:28

Thanks for all your help. I may have traced Margaret Horan now need to search the marriage of Charles John Brice and Margaret Horan but now sure what year they where married in Ireland and lived there for 1 year before moving to Cardiff to live.

It is difficult because i do not have a lot of information on Margaret's family.

Regards Debbie


MarieCeleste Report 8 Sep 2012 15:12

I notice you've marked this thread as answered, that means that people will think you've got all the answers you need so may stop looking for further info.

If you want to remove the answered tick then go to your first post and there will be a button that says something like "mark this as unanswered" - click on that.


MarieCeleste Report 8 Sep 2012 15:08

Debbie, just to clarify one thing marriage and census records are entirely different things.

The only Irish census records that survived are the 1901 and 1911, they are free to search and view on this link

This thread here gives useful advice about Irish research.


Deborah Report 8 Sep 2012 15:06

Thank you all


MarieCeleste Report 8 Sep 2012 14:20

pms from Deborah:

"Hi MarieCeleste, yes you appear to have most of the Brice family there accept Margaret is the Mother of Eileen which i am looking for more information on. James is no connection.

Thank you for your help Debbie"

You're quite right about James, Farnham is nowhere near the rest of them in Cardiff. But, if we're not given a location to start with then it's just a case of posting whatever records may be possible connections.


"How do i search the marriage record for Ireland census?

I am new to this searching thing and haven't got a clue what i am doing?

Thank you"


Deborah Report 8 Sep 2012 13:20

looking for relatives of Margaret Horan 1889 with Irish Mother and married to Charles John Brice of Cardiff .


K Report 20 Aug 2012 18:05


ame: Joseph Horan
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Horan
Gender: Male
Where born: Tipperary, Ireland

Civil parish: Oldham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Oldham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:


Condition as to marriage:


Employment status:

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Registration district: Oldham
Sub-registration district: Oldham Below Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3299
Folio: 38
Page Number: 39
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Horan 28
Ann Horan 30 b Tipperary
Joseph Horan 8 b Tipperary
Margaret A Horan 2 b Manchester
Ellen Horan 5/12


K Report 20 Aug 2012 18:01

1911? Father - listed again as a tailor

Person: HORAN, Joseph

Institution: Bevington House Hotel, BEVINGTON HOUSE HOTEL

HORAN, Joseph Lodger Widower M 49 1862 Tailor Tipp Thurlin Resident

RG number: RG14

Piece: 22147

Reference: RG14PN22147 RD453 SD1 ED31 SN9999

Registration District: Liverpool

Sub District: Scotland

Enumeration District: 31

Parish: Liverpool

Address: Bevington Bush Liverpool

County: Lancashire


MarieCeleste Report 20 Aug 2012 17:45


HORAN, Joseph Head Married M 39 1862 Tailor Ireland
HORAN, Ann Wife Married F 38 1863 Ireland
HORAN, Joseph Son Single M 19 1882 General Labourer Ireland
HORAN, Margaret A Daughter Single F 11 1890 Liverpool, Lancashire
HORAN, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 6 1895 Liverpool, Lancashire

Piece: 3424 Folio: 128 Page: 17
Registration District: Liverpool
Civil Parish: Liverpool

Address: 14, Gomer Street, Liverpool County: Lancashire


brummiejan Report 20 Aug 2012 17:44

Looks like Charles was actually at work!!

1911 Wales Census

Name: Charles Bryce
Age in 1911: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation to Head: Crew
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil parish: Cardiff
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 2
Estimated Marriage Year: 1909
Occupation: Frieman
Registration district: Cardiff
Registration District Number: 588
Sub-registration district: Central Cardiff


Porkie_Pie Report 20 Aug 2012 17:43

Births Dec 1882 ?

Brice Charles John Cardiff 11a 274



MarieCeleste Report 20 Aug 2012 17:42

The 1911 says they've been married 1 year 8 months so this could be likely:

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958
Name: Charles John Brice
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1909
Registration district: Cork
Volume: 5
Page: 142
FHL Film Number: 101261

There is also a Margaret Horan on the page.


brummiejan Report 20 Aug 2012 17:40

?1901 (parents and oldest sibling born Ireland):

1901 England Census

Name: Margaret A Heran
[Margaret A Horan]
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph Heran
Mother's Name: Ann Heran
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Islington

Joseph Heran 39
Ann Heran 38
Joseph Heran 19
Margaret A Heran 11
Elizabeth Heran 6


brummiejan Report 20 Aug 2012 17:37

She is on various family trees on Ancestry as Margaret A. Horan, married to a Charles Brice.


K Report 20 Aug 2012 17:34

Based on the children could this be the couple in 1911?

Name: Margaret Brice
Age in 1911: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Laonstown, Cork, Ireland - Actually looks like Queenstown
Civil parish: Cardiff
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: 16 Adelaide St Cardiff
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Cardiff
Registration District Number: 588
Sub-registration district: Central Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Household schedule number: 67
Piece: 32129
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles John Brice 26 b Glamorgan - Fireman
Margaret Brice 22
Charles James Brice 6/12 b Cork Queenstown


brummiejan Report 20 Aug 2012 17:33


Name: Margaret Brice
Birth Date: abt 1890
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1945
Age at Death: 55
Registration district: Cardiff
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 355