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Paul
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21 Aug 2012 17:33 |
hi i done a search for a child born.the problem is it only says male as a first name.any ideas why?
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MargaretM
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21 Aug 2012 17:47 |
They hadn't named the baby yet?
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Barbara
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21 Aug 2012 18:17 |
If the baby hadn't been named but registered do a search for the same entry (vol.etc) may have been amended at a later date - could be many years later.
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Porkie_Pie
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21 Aug 2012 18:22 |
As Margee said, but its worth checking to see if their is a death registered the same way in that quarter,
often if a child died shortly after birth it would still need to be registered this some times explains such entries
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Robert
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21 Aug 2012 18:24 |
maybe a still birth or a baby died within a few days. i seen a still birth certificate for my fathers twin, and all it said on the certificate was male and the surname
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mgnv
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21 Aug 2012 21:14 |
Robert - it won't be a still birth as this index is not available for a search. Only parents and siblings can obtain still birth certs.
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Paul
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21 Aug 2012 21:48 |
can anyone look for me its ....father ronald george foster born 1909 devon.married a kathleen ings born 1905 devon way.they got married in 1927 in wimborne dorset.i found the child born 1935 by mothers maiden name ings.dont know if there was anymore born.thanks in advance
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MarieCeleste
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21 Aug 2012 21:52 |
Paul - we won't be able to see anymore than you can, only way to find out more is for you to buy a copy of that birth certificate to see who the parents were.
If you go to FreeBMD http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl and search for births with Foster as the surname and Ings as the mother's maiden name you'll be able to see if there were more children. You can narrow it down by specifying a range of dates to search between.
EDIT: The only births I'm seeing with that combination of surnames are two in Lambeth, none with "male"??
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JustDinosaurJill
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21 Aug 2012 21:58 |
Hi Paul.
If you found the unamed child using Free BMD you should be abe to find more, if any further children exist, using the same method.
Choose 'birth' as your type of record
Enter the father's surname in the relevent field.
Enter the mother's maiden name in the field relevent to her.
Select your search period.
If the surname isn't too common, you could if you wished to, leave the entries for District or Counties as they are.
If you are certain that you know the area they came from and are unlikely to have lived anywhere else, you can choose that for your option.
I could do the search for you but if you look for it yourself, it will help you to learn your way around FreeBMD.
If you get stuck after trying or would like your search double-checked just say.
Jill
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ErikaH
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21 Aug 2012 22:08 |
This was an illegitimate child...............unless both parents were called Ings, which is unlikely, to say the least
Births Mar 1935 (>99%) Ings Male Ings Bournemouth 2b 948
Paul................
Children born to the marriage will have the FATHER's surname
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Ozibird
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21 Aug 2012 22:11 |
And Deaths Mar 1935 Ings Male 0 Bournemouth 2b 1041
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JustDinosaurJill
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21 Aug 2012 22:23 |
It is possible that the parents you have for this child are not the right ones. Also possible that if they are the right ones, Foster was not the father and so would not allow his name to be entered onto the birth cert. It's also possible that Foster was dead by the time his widow had a child and he might still not be the father.
If you still think that you have the right couple for the baby, the only way to be certain is to get the birth cert. If it were me and I had the finance to do so, I would get the death cert too.
The possibilities are many and the specualtion will only be answered if you obtain the cert(s).
J
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ErikaH
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21 Aug 2012 22:31 |
Marriages Mar 1927 (>99%) FOSTER Ronald G INGS Wimborne 5a 369 Ings Kathleen Foster Wimborne 5a 369
The birth info Paul has given for the man is not accurate................
Births Mar 1909 (>99%) FOSTER Ronald George Totnes 5b 130
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Ronald G Foster Name: Ronald G Foster Birth Date: abt 1909 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1925 Age at Death: 16 Registration district: Totnes Inferred County: Devon Volume: 5b Page: 204
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ErikaH
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21 Aug 2012 22:34 |
This may be Kathleen
1911 England Census Name: Kathleen Ings Age in 1911: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Cranborne Civil parish: Cranborne County/Island: Dorset Country: England Street Address: Telegraph Cottage, Gordon Hill, Cranborne, Dorset Registration district: Wimborne Registration District Number: 260 Sub-registration district: Cranborne ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 12 Piece: 12231 Household Members: Name Age George Ings 47 Bessie Ings 44 Dorothy Ings 18 Gladys Ings 13 Sybil Ings 11 Reginald Ings 10 Montague Ings 8 Kathleen Ings 5
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patchem
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21 Aug 2012 22:34 |
?? Births Sep 1903 FOSTER Ronald George Wimborne 5a 238
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ErikaH
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21 Aug 2012 22:40 |
That's much more likely...........
Paul can't have checked..........
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ErikaH
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21 Aug 2012 22:41 |
Name: Ronald George Foster Birth Date: 8 Jul 1903 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1983 Age at Death: 79 Registration district: Bromley Inferred County: Kent Volume: 11 Page: 0907
Name: Kathleen Foster Birth Date: 9 May 1905 Date of Registration: Jul 2003 Age at Death: 98 Registration district: Bromley Inferred County: Kent Register Number: D44 District and Subdistrict: 222/1D Entry number: 288
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patchem
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21 Aug 2012 22:43 |
? 1911 FOSTER, Arthur Head Married M 44 1867 Farmer And Woodman Cripplestyle Alderholt FOSTER, Jane Wife Married15 years F 42 1869 Crindall Alderholt FOSTER, John Son M 14 1897 Farm Worker Son Cripplestyle Alderholt FOSTER, Elsie Daughter F 13 1898 School Crippletyle Alderholt FOSTER, Dorothy Daughter F 11 1900 School Crippletyle Alderholt FOSTER, Wilfred Son M 9 1902 Crippletyle Alderholt FOSTER, Ronald Son M 7 1904 Crippletyle Alderholt FOSTER, Gladys Daughter F 4 1907 Crippletyle Alderholt FOSTER, Henry Grandfather Widower M 86 1825 Old Age Pensioner Crippletyle Alderholt RG number: RG14 Piece: 12232 Reference: RG14PN12232 RG78PN692 RD260 SD1 ED3 SN21 Registration District: Wimborne Sub District: Cranborne Enumeration District: 3 Parish: Alderholt Address: Cripplestyle Alderholt Salisbury County: Dorsetshire
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JustDinosaurJill
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21 Aug 2012 22:44 |
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1911 Census Household Record Household information Address Cripplestyle Alderholt Salisbury Parish Alderholt Type of Building Private House Number of Rooms 5 Rooms Inhabited Y Reference RG14PN12232 RG78PN692 RD260 SD1 ED3 SN21 Administrative County Dorsetshire Registration District Wimborne Registration Sub District Cranborne Enumeration District 3 Householder 1 Name Arthur Foster Relationship to Head of Household Head Condition / Years Married Married Gender M Age 44 Estimated Year of Birth 1867 Occupation Farmer and Woodman Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth Cripplestyle Alderholt Householder 2 Name Jane Foster Relationship to Head of Household Wife Condition / Years Married Married / 15 Years Total Children Born Alive 6 Children Still Living 6 Children Who Have Died 0 Gender F Age 42 Estimated Year of Birth 1869 Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Crindall Alderholt Householder 3 Name John Foster Relationship to Head of Household Son Gender M Age 14 Estimated Year of Birth 1897 Occupation Farm Worker Son Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth Cripplestyle Alderholt Householder 4 Name Elsie Foster Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Gender F Age 13 Estimated Year of Birth 1898 Occupation School Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth Crippletyle Alderholt Householder 5 Name Dorothy Foster Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Gender F Age 11 Estimated Year of Birth 1900 Occupation School Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth Crippletyle Alderholt Householder 6 Name Wilfred Foster Relationship to Head of Household Son Gender M Age 9 Estimated Year of Birth 1902 Occupation Juvenile Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Crippletyle Alderholt Householder 7 Name Ronald Foster Relationship to Head of Household Spouse Gender M Age 7 Estimated Year of Birth 1904 Occupation Juvenile Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Crippletyle Alderholt Householder 8 Name Gladys Foster Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Gender F Age 4 Estimated Year of Birth 1907 Occupation Juvenile Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Crippletyle Alderholt Householder 9 Name Henry Foster Relationship to Head of Household Grandfather Condition / Years Married Widower Gender M Age 86 Estimated Year of Birth 1825 Occupation Old Age Pensioner Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth Crippletyle Alderholt
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JustDinosaurJill
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21 Aug 2012 22:53 |
I'm not familiar with London area so I always use Google Earth. It shows me that Lambeth where MC found two births for Foster/Ings is approximately eleven miles apart so possible that they belong to our couple.
Paul.
All of what we have dismissed or found out for you proves just how important it is to look for ways to confirm or disprove information and even when you think you've found the answer, look for reasons that it might not be.
It's how I work with other stuff I do beyond my family history. When I am researching a subject I try to come up with all the reasons why what I have found out or come to believe might be wrong. That way I hope that if I can't disprove something, there is a very decent chance of it being accurate.
J
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