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Paul

Paul Report 21 Aug 2012 17:33

hi i done a search for a child born.the problem is it only says male as a first name.any ideas why?

Margee

Margee Report 21 Aug 2012 17:47

They hadn't named the baby yet?

Barbara

Barbara Report 21 Aug 2012 18:17

If the baby hadn't been named but registered do a search for the same entry (vol.etc) may have been amended at a later date - could be many years later.

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 21 Aug 2012 18:22

As Margee said, but its worth checking to see if their is a death registered the same way in that quarter,

often if a child died shortly after birth it would still need to be registered this some times explains such entries

Roy

Robert

Robert Report 21 Aug 2012 18:24

maybe a still birth or a baby died within a few days. i seen a still birth certificate for my fathers twin, and all it said on the certificate was male and the surname

mgnv

mgnv Report 21 Aug 2012 21:14

Robert - it won't be a still birth as this index is not available for a search.
Only parents and siblings can obtain still birth certs.

Paul

Paul Report 21 Aug 2012 21:48

can anyone look for me its ....father ronald george foster born 1909 devon.married a kathleen ings born 1905 devon way.they got married in 1927 in wimborne dorset.i found the child born 1935 by mothers maiden name ings.dont know if there was anymore born.thanks in advance

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Aug 2012 21:52

Paul - we won't be able to see anymore than you can, only way to find out more is for you to buy a copy of that birth certificate to see who the parents were.

If you go to FreeBMD http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl and search for births with Foster as the surname and Ings as the mother's maiden name you'll be able to see if there were more children. You can narrow it down by specifying a range of dates to search between.

EDIT: The only births I'm seeing with that combination of surnames are two in Lambeth, none with "male"??

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 21 Aug 2012 21:58

Hi Paul.

If you found the unamed child using Free BMD you should be abe to find more, if any further children exist, using the same method.

Choose 'birth' as your type of record

Enter the father's surname in the relevent field.

Enter the mother's maiden name in the field relevent to her.

Select your search period.

If the surname isn't too common, you could if you wished to, leave the entries for District or Counties as they are.

If you are certain that you know the area they came from and are unlikely to have lived anywhere else, you can choose that for your option.

I could do the search for you but if you look for it yourself, it will help you to learn your way around FreeBMD.

If you get stuck after trying or would like your search double-checked just say.

Jill

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Aug 2012 22:08

This was an illegitimate child...............unless both parents were called Ings, which is unlikely, to say the least

Births Mar 1935 (>99%)
Ings Male Ings Bournemouth 2b 948

Paul................

Children born to the marriage will have the FATHER's surname

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 21 Aug 2012 22:11

And

Deaths Mar 1935 Ings Male 0 Bournemouth 2b 1041

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 21 Aug 2012 22:23

It is possible that the parents you have for this child are not the right ones. Also possible that if they are the right ones, Foster was not the father and so would not allow his name to be entered onto the birth cert. It's also possible that Foster was dead by the time his widow had a child and he might still not be the father.

If you still think that you have the right couple for the baby, the only way to be certain is to get the birth cert. If it were me and I had the finance to do so, I would get the death cert too.

The possibilities are many and the specualtion will only be answered if you obtain the cert(s).

J

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Aug 2012 22:31

Marriages Mar 1927 (>99%)
FOSTER Ronald G INGS Wimborne 5a 369
Ings Kathleen Foster Wimborne 5a 369

The birth info Paul has given for the man is not accurate................

Births Mar 1909 (>99%)
FOSTER Ronald George Totnes 5b 130

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Ronald G Foster
Name: Ronald G Foster
Birth Date: abt 1909
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1925
Age at Death: 16
Registration district: Totnes
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 204

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Aug 2012 22:34

This may be Kathleen

1911 England Census
Name: Kathleen Ings
Age in 1911: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Cranborne
Civil parish: Cranborne
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street Address: Telegraph Cottage, Gordon Hill, Cranborne, Dorset
Registration district: Wimborne
Registration District Number: 260
Sub-registration district: Cranborne
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 12
Piece: 12231
Household Members:
Name Age
George Ings 47
Bessie Ings 44
Dorothy Ings 18
Gladys Ings 13
Sybil Ings 11
Reginald Ings 10
Montague Ings 8
Kathleen Ings 5

patchem

patchem Report 21 Aug 2012 22:34

??
Births Sep 1903
FOSTER Ronald George Wimborne 5a 238

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Aug 2012 22:40

That's much more likely...........

Paul can't have checked..........

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Aug 2012 22:41

Name: Ronald George Foster
Birth Date: 8 Jul 1903
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1983
Age at Death: 79
Registration district: Bromley
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 11
Page: 0907


Name: Kathleen Foster
Birth Date: 9 May 1905
Date of Registration: Jul 2003
Age at Death: 98
Registration district: Bromley
Inferred County: Kent
Register Number: D44
District and Subdistrict: 222/1D
Entry number: 288

patchem

patchem Report 21 Aug 2012 22:43

?
1911
FOSTER, Arthur Head Married M 44 1867 Farmer And Woodman Cripplestyle Alderholt
FOSTER, Jane Wife Married15 years F 42 1869 Crindall Alderholt
FOSTER, John Son M 14 1897 Farm Worker Son Cripplestyle Alderholt
FOSTER, Elsie Daughter F 13 1898 School Crippletyle Alderholt
FOSTER, Dorothy Daughter F 11 1900 School Crippletyle Alderholt
FOSTER, Wilfred Son M 9 1902 Crippletyle Alderholt
FOSTER, Ronald Son M 7 1904 Crippletyle Alderholt
FOSTER, Gladys Daughter F 4 1907 Crippletyle Alderholt
FOSTER, Henry Grandfather Widower M 86 1825 Old Age Pensioner Crippletyle Alderholt
RG number: RG14 Piece: 12232 Reference: RG14PN12232 RG78PN692 RD260 SD1 ED3 SN21
Registration District: Wimborne Sub District: Cranborne Enumeration District: 3
Parish: Alderholt Address: Cripplestyle Alderholt Salisbury County: Dorsetshire

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 21 Aug 2012 22:44

????

1911 Census Household Record
Household information
Address Cripplestyle Alderholt Salisbury
Parish Alderholt
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 5 Rooms
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN12232 RG78PN692 RD260 SD1 ED3 SN21
Administrative County Dorsetshire
Registration District Wimborne
Registration Sub District Cranborne
Enumeration District 3
Householder 1
Name Arthur Foster
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married Married
Gender M
Age 44
Estimated Year of Birth 1867
Occupation Farmer and Woodman
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Cripplestyle Alderholt
Householder 2
Name Jane Foster
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married Married / 15 Years
Total Children Born Alive 6
Children Still Living 6
Children Who Have Died 0
Gender F
Age 42
Estimated Year of Birth 1869
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Crindall Alderholt
Householder 3
Name John Foster
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 14
Estimated Year of Birth 1897
Occupation Farm Worker Son
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Cripplestyle Alderholt
Householder 4
Name Elsie Foster
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 13
Estimated Year of Birth 1898
Occupation School
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Crippletyle Alderholt
Householder 5
Name Dorothy Foster
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1900
Occupation School
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Crippletyle Alderholt
Householder 6
Name Wilfred Foster
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 9
Estimated Year of Birth 1902
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Crippletyle Alderholt
Householder 7
Name Ronald Foster
Relationship to Head of Household Spouse
Gender M
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1904
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Crippletyle Alderholt
Householder 8
Name Gladys Foster
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 4
Estimated Year of Birth 1907
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Crippletyle Alderholt
Householder 9
Name Henry Foster
Relationship to Head of Household Grandfather
Condition / Years Married Widower
Gender M
Age 86
Estimated Year of Birth 1825
Occupation Old Age Pensioner
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Crippletyle Alderholt

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 21 Aug 2012 22:53

I'm not familiar with London area so I always use Google Earth. It shows me that Lambeth where MC found two births for Foster/Ings is approximately eleven miles apart so possible that they belong to our couple.

Paul.

All of what we have dismissed or found out for you proves just how important it is to look for ways to confirm or disprove information and even when you think you've found the answer, look for reasons that it might not be.

It's how I work with other stuff I do beyond my family history. When I am researching a subject I try to come up with all the reasons why what I have found out or come to believe might be wrong. That way I hope that if I can't disprove something, there is a very decent chance of it being accurate.

J