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Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 29 Sep 2012 09:54

Herbert served in WWII -navy?

OWERS HERBERT ALBERT : Service Number - NX6862 : Date of birth - 06 May 1909 : Place of birth - LONDON ENGLAND : Place of enlistment - VICTORIA BARRACKS NSW : Next of Kin - OWERS CHARLES

He was court-martialled in 1946.

See National Australian Archives RecordSearch to request a copy of the records

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Sep 2012 10:04

Mornin' Cherilyn, your'e certainly delivering!, lol...

(having to go out soon, but will have a look later at those other Electoral entries, in case of any more names!)

Chris :)

Dea

Dea Report 29 Sep 2012 10:10

What a lovely lot of interesting info Cherilyn - Olive is going to be VERY pleased !

I think I will try to find one of my lot in Australia so you can do the same for me ;-) :-D

Dea Xxx

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 29 Sep 2012 10:13

Hi Cherilyn
Thankyou so much for the information it is most intertesting.

I just wonder if Herbert Albert Owers ever married again ??
Also would it be possilbe for you to look up 1936,1937,1943,1949,1958,1980 Austrailian Electorals,maybe that would give some idea who he was living with.
during those years mentioned Please
Thankyou you so much
Olive Jean Bowler

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 29 Sep 2012 10:16

Hi
I am so pleased with all the exciting information
The Army information must be correct as Herbert A Owers born 1909 Father was Charles Owers.
Thankyou again
Olive :-)

Gee

Gee Report 29 Sep 2012 11:41

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Valda Hope & Herbert Albert Owers
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1980
State: New South Wales
District: Robertson
Subdistrict: Woy Woy

Also showing on 1949 & 1959 ER


d.1996, cremated, Lismore OWERS, Valda Hope

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 29 Sep 2012 12:13

Hi Gins
WOW and Thankyou for your reply,So it looks as though Herbert A Owers remarried .
Does it show any family on the Ausralian Electoral Rolls Please
Olive
:-)

Gee

Gee Report 29 Sep 2012 12:21

I cant seem to find anything else and there are no other 'Owers' at that address.

Ive added a possible death for her, when Cherilyn comes back, she might be able to find more details

Gee

Gee Report 29 Sep 2012 12:24

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Valda Hope Fraser
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1943
State: New South Wales
District: Barton
Subdistrict: Kogarah

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Valda Hope Owers
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1949
State: New South Wales
District: Barton
Subdistrict: Oatley

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 29 Sep 2012 12:40

Hi Gins.
Thankyou so much it is really great to find out all this info.
It look as though he may have married Valda Hope Fraser some time.I wonder if he is living with his First wife on 1937.1943 Electoral Rolls
Thankyou again
From Olive

Gee

Gee Report 29 Sep 2012 12:43

Digging around, I think Valda might have been born 1910 Valda H Robinson and married Richard Moait 1928


Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Valda H Robinson
Birth Date: 1910
Father's Name: James Robinson
Mother's Name: Lucy
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1910
Registration Place: Petersham, New South Wales
Registration Number: 18929


Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Richard M Moait
Spouse Name: Valda H Robinson
Marriage Date: 1928
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1928
Registration Number: 5620

Our little Oz expert might be able to find more :-)

Gee

Gee Report 29 Sep 2012 12:50

Registration Number Groom's Surname Groom's Given Name(s) Bride's Last Name

15406/1947 OWERS HERBERT ALBERT FRASER VALDA HOPE SYDNEY Buy Now


http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 29 Sep 2012 12:57

Hi Gins
Thankyou again
From Olive

Gee

Gee Report 29 Sep 2012 13:27

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Richard Malcolm Moait <<Cabinate maker
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1930
State: New South Wales
District: Parkes
Subdistrict: Haberfield

No Valda with him?

_________________________________________

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Richard Malcolm Moait
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1933
State: New South Wales
District: Reid
Subdistrict: Bankstown North

Also at the same address

Moait Henrietta Female
Moait Thomas Male
Moait Valda Hazel


And again here, so I think the Robinson marriage to Moait is a different Valda


Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Richard Malcolm Moait
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1949
State: New South Wales
District: Blaxland
Subdistrict: Bankstown East


Your Valda Hope Fraser may have been born much later (after 1911) than Herbert and thats why I cant find a birth reg for her

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Sep 2012 14:32

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
(Herbert Alfred Owers)

1936 New South Wales Eden Monaro Bega
Union Street, Bega. Labourer (also a Charlie Oswald Owers, Bemboka, Farm Hand)

1937 New South Wales Lang Marrickville
18, Myrtle Street, Compressor Driver

1943 New South Wales East Sydney Foveaux
64, Devonshire Street Coppersmith

(just adding other 3)

Chris :)

(was nosin' in Aus. Newspapers on below, but not seeing a lot!)

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?adv=y


Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 29 Sep 2012 15:16

Hi Chris.
What a geart day for finding out my information.
I noticed that Charles Oswald Owers is living with Herbert so maybe that is his son.?1936 E/R

Anyone living with him on1937,1943,just interested to see if he had any children by Henrietta Barnsley.

How would I find out Herbert A Owers Army Info.
In England a trip to the local Librury and look on Ancestry.co.uk would be our answer!!
I will have to piece all the information together .

So Herbert AOwers came to Australia in 1927
married Henrietta Barnsley 1930 Sydney NSW
Served in the Australian Army/ Navy WW2

Then married again 1947 to Valda Hope Fraser Sydney NSW

Thankyou for all your help,itis really kind of you all ,Hope to hear from you again
From Olive
:-) :-)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Sep 2012 16:32

Living on his own Olive, in 1937, 1943.

(not seeing a lot on Charlie, not sure where he fits in!)


http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/DetailsReports/ItemDetail.aspx?Barcode=4922735

(not sure if above is what Cherilyn means!)

Chris :)

Gee

Gee Report 29 Sep 2012 16:34

Charles isnt a child of Herbert. He wouldnt be on the ER as a child and he's here, three years after Herberts marriage


Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Charlie Oswald Owers <<Farm hand
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1933
State: New South Wales
District: Eden Monaro
Subdistrict: Bega

Gee

Gee Report 29 Sep 2012 16:43

Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's

Death

17506/1960 OWERS CHARLES OSWALD WILLIAM HENRY PHOEBE COOMA


Registration Number Groom's Surname Groom's Given Name(s) Bride's Last Name

at Time of Marriage Bride's Given Name(s) District * Purchase Certificate
9379/1905 OWERS WILLIAM H SIMS PHOEBE COOMA

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 29 Sep 2012 19:51

Hi Gins.
Thankyou for your reply ,I have been on the webb site for National Archives Australia to look for ==
Herbert Albert Owers Papers for his service WW2 ( Australia)but I am unable to view the Records.

It has been a very interesting day Thankyou.
There is just a couple of things I would like to find out,so I will be in touch again
Thankyou
From Olive


:-) :-)