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Alexander Spence from Raphoe, Donegal, Ireland

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Aspen

Aspen Report 19 Oct 2012 10:51

I am looking for Alexander Spence from Raphoe Donegal Ireland who emigrated after 1901. He was on the Donegal census then. I have been told that he had a sheep station in Australia but where in Australia is not known. I know he was born 24/09/1856 but I know from the census and his army records he must have thought he was born 1860. His parents were called Alexander and Mary Jane (nee Hamilton) Another interesting item, when he died his money came back to Ireland to his nephew. No dates for that either. Alexander was not married in 1901 I am looking forward to any information as I have been unable to get anything after 1901. I have checked Wills here in Dublin and Belfast but nothing there. :-S
Kind regards
Alison

Gins

Gins Report 19 Oct 2012 11:37

I know on the record it has a ditto , not married but who is the daughter inlaw married to?


Residents of a house 7 in Beltany (Raphoe, Donegal)

Spence Alexander 75 Male Head of Family Irish Church Co Donegal Agricultural Labourer Cannot read - Married -
Spence Mary J 65 Female Wife Irish Church Co Donegal - Cannot read - Married -
Spence Lizzie 35 Female Daughter in Law Irish Church Co Donegal - Read and write - Married -
Spence David 3 Male Grand Son Irish Church Co Donegal - Cannot read - Not Married -
Spence William 1 Male Grand Son Irish Church Co Donegal - Cannot read - Not Married -
Spence Alexander Male Grand Son Irish Church Co Donegal - Cannot read - Not Married -
Spence Alexander 40 Male Son Irish Church Co Donegal Agricultural Labourer Cannot read - Not Married -
Holmes Robert 74 Male Boarder Irish Church


Do you know when he died?

Quoy

Quoy Report 19 Oct 2012 11:42

hello Alison

you have probably searched Trove but I will post anyway

I put in "Alexander Spence"

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=%22alexander+spence%22&l-category=Family+Notices


you can then narrow this down by decade

Gins

Gins Report 19 Oct 2012 11:46

This is Lizzie and the children, she is listed as married

Residents of a house 2 in Raphoe Townparks (Raphoe, Donegal)

Spence Lizzie 45 Female Wife Irish Church Co Donegal - Read and write - Married - 14 7 6
Spence David 14 Male Son Irish Church Co Donegal Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
Spence William 12 Male Son Irish Church Co Donegal Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
Spence Annie 9 Female Daughter Irish Church Co Donegal Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
Spence Maggie 7 Female Daughter Irish Church Co Donegal Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
Spence Robert 4 Male Son Irish Church Co Donegal - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Spence Samuel 2 Male Son Irish Church

Aspen

Aspen Report 19 Oct 2012 12:43

Gins
Lizzie was married to Alexander's brother William. William was in Scotland working!
Lizzie was living in Townparks in 1911 and lived there until she died 1938.

Regards
Alison

Gins

Gins Report 19 Oct 2012 14:00

Thanks Alison

I just cant seem to find anything in Oz for him? You mention his estate went back to Ireland, do you know when he died?

Did he have a middle name?


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Alexander R Spence
Death Date: 1927
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: Alexaner
Mother's name: Mary
Registration Year: 1927
Registration Place: Ashfield, New South Wales
Registration number: 1106

Thats not him above, that Alex was born in 1863 NSW

Gins

Gins Report 19 Oct 2012 14:10

Is this your tree?


Alexander Spence
Alston-Patrick Family Tree
Birth: 1856 - Ireland (Northern Ireland)
Death: 13th January 1915 (13 Jan 1915)
Parents: Alexander Spence, Mary Jane Hamilton
Spouse: Jane


Is this his mothers death? If so, it would be interesting to see who registered the death


Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958
Name: Mary Spence
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1911
Death Age: 75
Registration district: Donegal
Death Country: Ireland
Volume: 2
Page: 26
FHL Film Number: 0101605

Aspen

Aspen Report 19 Oct 2012 15:28

GINS
No that is not my tree but it is connected as Alexander had a sister Ellen and that is who is doing it. I have been in contact with 2 others doing the same tree. I think the tree you mentioned had Alexander married. Also they have some dates wrong!
I went to the Church and got the records and Alexander only had one name as they all did, only Mary Jane who was called after her mother.
Alexander was a labourer and he had been in the army and was in India. I had been told that he left money but the person was in his 80's ( Alexander was his Gt Uncle too) and was not sure of dates. But i do know that another member of the family, not Spence, went to New Zealand and maybe he got mixed up! The other person was on his grandmother's side.Sadly the person is no longer with us.
I have been looking in Trove, never knew about it before, and wondered about a death 28th. August 1933 ALEXANDER SPENCE 2 Andrew street Balmain but it states Elizabeth Leishman as his wife!
As I have my tree nearly finished I need to find this Alexander Spence.
Fingers Crossed!
Alison ;-)

Gins

Gins Report 19 Oct 2012 15:41

Registration Number Family Name Given Name(s) Date of Birth/

Age at Death

1927/6482 Spence Alexander 78Y Order Product
1908/7239 Spence Alexander 58Y Order Product


Try searching NZ here

https://www.bdmonline.dia.govt.nz/


Gins

Gins Report 19 Oct 2012 15:50

name: Alex Spence
event: Immigration
arrival date: 09 Jan 1909
event place: New Zealand
gender: Male
age:
marital status:
origin: United Kingdom
occupation:
estimated birth year:
shipping company: New Zealand & African SS Co, Ltd
ship: Cornwall
ship's departure port:
departure port: Liverpool
departure date:
ship's arrival port: Wellington
arrival port: Auckland (other ports also listed)
digital folder number: 004416769
image number: 00050


https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1609792

Aspen

Aspen Report 19 Oct 2012 16:22

GINS
I sent for that cert 1927 to find he was from Scotland.
I have looked at passenger lists and have not found any to say Irish yet. Some have Scotch or English. Steerage don't give where they are from.
I am hoping to be able to get his death cert as it should say he was from Ireland and his parents names!
regards
Alison

Aspen

Aspen Report 21 Oct 2012 10:26

Gins
I checked over my information for Alex Spence arriaval 9th Jan 1909. I have it leaving the UK in 1908 and it states Alex Spence as English. I think if it was him it would have him as Irish!! I have been struggling with this for some time but I won't give up as he is now the only member of my tree I cannot find.
Regards
Alison :-)

Aspen

Aspen Report 24 Oct 2012 08:22

I have been looking in Trove, never knew about it before, and wondered about a death 28th. August 1933 ALEXANDER SPENCE 2 Andrew street Balmain but it states Elizabeth Leishman as his wife. It states that Leishman, Elizabeth wife and family are invited to attend the funeral of her beloved husband and their father Alexander Spence to leave 2 St Andrew Street Balmain this Wed at 1.30pm for Presbyterian Cemetery
I thought this was interesting.......could it be him? Why was her name not Spence?

Aspen

Aspen Report 30 Oct 2012 16:45

I'm still having a search in Trove but nothing yet. What other sites can I check?
He is proving hard to find. :-(

Aspen

Aspen Report 3 Nov 2012 20:59

nudge :-(

Aspen

Aspen Report 14 Nov 2012 16:50

:-(

Aspen

Aspen Report 6 Mar 2013 14:20

Nudge :-D

Aspen

Aspen Report 10 Mar 2013 20:13

:-(

Alemap

Alemap Report 10 Mar 2013 20:34

Aspen,
If you look at the parish record for his birth, you may find information about his emigration, etc.
I found the marriage and death information for my husbands grandfather against his birth entry in the parish records. Born Donegal, married/died Scotland.

Good luck, Pam

P.S. A strong magnifying glass and a knowledge of latin was required. :-D

Aspen

Aspen Report 10 Mar 2013 21:06

Pam
I have been to the Church and I can only find his date of birth and when baptised. Nothing else for him. I did find info for his siblings there. I have found his army records and found him in 1901 census, but nothing after that. :-(
Regards
Aspen