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patchem

patchem Report 2 Jan 2013 22:29

Just in case you do not read the success boards:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/success_stories/thread/1316760

Joyce

Joyce Report 10 Nov 2012 14:21

Thank you to all for your further information. I'm now in the process of following up other possible leads or enquiries that have arisen from all your comments. His age (22) together with the surname Wood, appears in the Salvation Army records, but I know that often these details were a bit vague at best. And perhaps the family got so sick of spelling or pronouncing the name Waud (if it turns out to be that) that they simply gave up and said it was Wood!

And another ps to Reggie: I'm sorry you feel I've wasted people's time unnecessarily by not giving more info. at the start. I've never posted on any GR forums before. My original post was put out as a 'feeler', and I thought I might get one or two replies, if I was lucky. Possibly none at all. So I was totally overwhelmed by the response. But instead of focussing on the sheer generosity and kindness of people, and the extent to which they were prepared to help, I'm now responding for the second time to your petty criticisms. I freely admit I'm a novice when it comes to family research and have much still to learn. And you clearly are much more experienced than I am. So perhaps a little understanding and tolerance wouldn't come amiss. This isn't a competition, so I'd be really grateful if you didn't use my general lack of knowledge of the etiquette of these forums in order to score points. Thank you!

ChristinaS

ChristinaS Report 8 Nov 2012 13:57

The 1901 and 1911 censuses that Catherine has posted are both for the address 62, Spencer Road, Stoke Newington. They had a son, Frances Henry Waud.

As this is where your Frances Henry was living in 1908, it would be a huge coincidence if this wasn't your Frances Henry.

Maybe he pronounced Waud as Wood, to save confusion. Or people thought he was saying Wood and not Waud.

Mary

Mary Report 8 Nov 2012 13:40

When you view original 1911 census it deffinately says William James Copleston.

Maryb

Joyce

Joyce Report 8 Nov 2012 11:17

Re Francis Hy. Wood
Very many thanks for all your kind efforts and info. Much appreciated.
Relevance of 1908 is it's the year my father was born. Have just learned (source: Salvation Army archives) after a lifetime of not knowing, that he was the father of my unmarried grandmother's baby (born in a SA hospital). She (Elsie Copleston) was 17. He promised marriage but then thought better of it! And his surname seems positively to have been Wood, not Waud or Wand. No Australian connection that I know of.

Have been a member of GR for years, but not a regular visitor since I completed my basic research some time ago. Am now trying to get to grips with the new site.

To Reggie: A belated and grovelling 'please' and 'thank you'. Have also heeded your stern warnings not to click on your name, and to dutifully use the Add Your Reply box. Wouldn't dream of doing otherwise, Reggie. You sound far too formiddable! And yes, I'm in the process of searching all trees, but thanks anyway.

To all, thanks once again. Your replies have given me new food for thought, and possibly new avenues to explore.

Choccy

Choccy Report 6 Nov 2012 16:22



Elizabeth, Francis and Cissie - presumably father had already gone (?)



Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Mrs E WAND
Date of departure: 14 October 1913
Port of departure: London
Destination port: Melbourne
Destination country: Australia

Date of Birth: 1888 (calculated from age)
Age: 25
Marital Status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: Home Duties
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 7 of 25

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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Miss C WAND age 1

Mast F WAND age 4


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Ship: INDRAPURA
Official Number: 131403
Master's name: R Craven
Steamship Line: The Tyser Line Ld
Where bound: Australia
Square feet: 15953
Registered tonnage: 10286
Passengers on voyage: 926


Choccy

Choccy Report 6 Nov 2012 16:08



death of Francis Henry Waud's wife -

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985

Name: Elizth Louisa Waud
Death Place: Pran, Victoria
Age: 48
Father's Name: Jno Parish
Mother's name: Sarah Parker
Registration Year: 1937
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 9249
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889


Choccy

Choccy Report 6 Nov 2012 16:02


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985

Name: Francis Ernest Waud
Death Place: Caulfield, Victoria
Age: 72
Father's Name: Henr Francis
Mother's name: Louise
Registration Year: 1981
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 12681
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1909




Think that death of Francis Henry Waud in Australia in 1957 posted by Margee is probably correct.

His father was George William (William George?)


Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Nov 2012 15:54

Don't know what happened there, I was sure I'd already posted that 1909 marriage?
Never mind at least someone has their head on the right way round today.

Another child that would go with this couple:-

Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
Waud Cissie L Parish Hackney 1b 719

Choccy

Choccy Report 6 Nov 2012 15:47



Births Sep 1909 (>99%)
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WAUD Francis Ernest Hackney 1b 369



Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
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Waud Cissie L Parish Hackney 1b 719


Choccy

Choccy Report 6 Nov 2012 15:41



this could be them - surname is WAUD on original

1911

National Archive Reference: RG14PN1016 RG78PN34 RD11 SD1 ED12 SN465
Reg. District: Hackney
Sub District: Stoke Newington
Parish: Stoke Newington
Enum. District: 12
Address: 16 Clonbrook Road Stoke Newington
County: London


WAND, Francis Head Married M 25 1886 Carman London Hackney
WAND, Elizabeth Wife Married
2 years F 22 1889 London Hackney
WAND, Francis Son M 1 1910 London Stoke Newington


Choccy

Choccy Report 6 Nov 2012 15:37



surname is WAUD on original

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Francis Henry Wand (Coachman)
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Age: 23
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Louisa Parish (Domestic servant)
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 Apr 1909
Parish: Mildmay Grove St Jude
Borough: Islington
Father Name: George William Wand (Artist colour mixer)
Spouse Father Name: John Parish (General dealer)
Register Type: Parish Register


address - 45 Queen Margaret's Grove

Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Nov 2012 14:43

Thanks Margee, at least we can rule that out now! :-)

Margee

Margee Report 6 Nov 2012 14:41

The Australian death:

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Francis Henry Waud Name: Francis Henry Waud
Death Place: Alberton, Victoria
Age: 72
Father's Name: Willi George
Registration Year: 1957
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 14337
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885

Don't think so, father is Willi George.

Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Nov 2012 14:41

Same family again in 1891:-

1891 England Census about George Naud
Name: George Naud
[George Waud]
[George Henry Waud]
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
[19th July 1859]
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma Naud
Gender: Male
Where born: Barbican, London, England
[London, England]
Civil parish: Stoke Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mathias
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 35 Cressington Road

Occupation: Artist colourmaker

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: Stoke Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 180
Folio: 122
Page Number: 67
Household Members:
Name Age
George Naud 31
Emma Naud 30 born: Walton on Nage, Essex,
Florence Naud 10
Georgine Naud 7
Francis Naud 5
George Naud 3
Ellen Naud 1

Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Nov 2012 14:37

ancestry give this as a possible link for this person:-

Francis Henry Waud
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985

..............but my sub. doesn't allow me to view so don't know if it is your guy????

Margee

Margee Report 6 Nov 2012 14:37

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about George Henry Waud Name: George Henry Waud
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Age: 21
Spouse Name: Emma Maria Popperwell
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 20 Jun 1880
Parish: Dalston Holy Trinity
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: George Daniel Waud
Spouse Father Name: Robert Popperwell
Register Type: Parish Register


He's an artist colourman. Address for both 36 Woodland St. His father an artist colourman, hers a labourer. Witnesses George Daniel Waud & Emma Waud.

Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Nov 2012 14:32

could this be him?

WOOD, Francis Henry Head Married M 26 1885 Roundsman Dairy Work County of London Marylebone VIEW
WOOD, Frances Wife Married 2 years F 24 1887 Stock Keeper- Dressmaker County of London Lambeth VIEW

RG number: RG14 Piece: 538 Reference: RG14PN538 RG78PN19 RD7 SD2 ED2 SN346 Registration District: St Marylebone Sub District: St Mary Enumeration District: 2 Parish: St Marylebone Address: 12 Seymour Place Marylebone County: London

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This marriage would fit for this couple:-

Marriages Sep 1909 (>99%)
CHAPMAN Frederick William Kensington 1a 404
xxxx Frances Kensington 1a 404
KING Amy Elizabeth Kensington 1a 404
xxxx WOOD Francis Henry Kensington 1a 404

Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Nov 2012 14:27

The family in 1911 census in 1901 (with Francis )

1901 England Census about Frances H Wand
Name: Frances H Wand
[Frances H Waud]
[Francis Henry Waud]
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Geo H Wand
Mother's name: Emma M Wand
Gender: Male
Where born: W Islington
Civil parish: Stoke Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 62 Spencer Road

Occupation: Errand Boy (port)

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: Stoke Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 267
Piece: 208
Folio: 53
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Geo H Wand 41 - occupation:- artists ? colourmaker
Emma M Wand 40
Georgina R Wand 19
xxxx Frances H Wand 15 xxxx
Geo W Wand 13
Ellen B Wand 11
Stanley R Wand 1

Joseph

Joseph Report 6 Nov 2012 14:23

???

Births Jun 1885
WAUD Francis Henry Hackney 1b 464