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Hit a brick wall with Edward Taylor 1901 census RG13-2870-157-39 Has him married to Mary McCoy. 1891 has him lodging with her. Her two younger children Edward and James (my GF) become Taylors after the marriage, given they were born after Mr McCoys death!!!
Cant find a marriage certificate for clues either,
Wondering if he was married previously given he was 38 when lodging with them???

Any clues where to start please??

Hello Karen - welcome to the boards

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name: Charles William /Taylor/
gender: Male
birth: 1827
BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England


Parents
father: Edward /Taylor/
mother: Frances /Thomas/

Marriages (1)
spouse: Elizabeth /Phillips/
marriage: 1848
Kings Norton,B/Ham
Hide children (12)

child 1: John /Taylor/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1853
BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England

child 2: William /Taylor/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1851
BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England

child 3: Frances /Taylor/
gender: Female
BIRTH 1855
BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England

child 4: Edward /Taylor/
gender: Male
BIRTH 21 January 1850
BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England
BAPTISM 25 March 1850

DEATH 28 August 1901


child 5: Alfred J. /Taylor/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1873
BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England

child 6: Elizabeth /Taylor/
gender: Female
BIRTH 1856
BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England

child 7: Ernest /Taylor/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1875
BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England
DEATH 1 October 1876


child 8: Harriet /Taylor/
gender: Female
BIRTH 1858
BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England

child 9: Charles Thomas /Taylor/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1859
BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England
BAPTISM 8 January 1860
St.Stephens,B/Ham

child 10: Frederick /Taylor/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1871
BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England

child 11: Albert /Taylor/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1862
BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England
BAPTISM 22 June 1862
St.Stephen,B/Ham

child 12: Alice Jane /Taylor/
gender: Female
BIRTH 1867
BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England

Notes
¦Executer of Frederick Cornwall s Will.
1861 100,Steelhouse Lane,B/Ham.

1881 101,Woodcock Street,Aston,B/Ham.

when were children Edward and James born?

Can you put 1901 census transcription on here please? Just for reference.
Jan

Edward 1891-1916 James b1889 died 6/7/55 married Lizzie Dolloway.
Both were registered as McCoy at birth I think.

Can I ask how you found the above so quickly please???

1901 for ref

1901 England Census
about Edward Taylor
Name: Edward Taylor
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A Taylor
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 205
Piece: 2870
Folio: 157
Page Number: 39
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Taylor 51
Mary A Taylor 49
Edward Taylor 10
James Taylor 8
William Mc Coy 20
Sarah Mc Coy 22




Andy

1901

Civil parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence
County/Island: Warwickshire

Registration district:Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston

Piece: 2870 Folio: 157 Page Number: 39

all born Birmingham

Edward Taylor 51 navvy
Mary A Taylor 49 wife
Edward Taylor 10 son
James Taylor 8 son
William Mc Coy 20 step son brickcaster
Sarah Mc Coy 22 step dau w'house hand

address
74 Richard St, Aston

Mary in 1881 for ref.

David appears to have died 1884

1881 England Census
about Mary McCoy
Name: Mary McCoy
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: David McCoy
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham

Civil parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address: 8 H 9 CT Blews St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2996
Folio: 94
Page Number: 23
Household Members: Name Age
David McCoy 37
Mary McCoy 33
Thomas McCoy 14
Cathrine McCoy 13
Winifred McCoy 9
David McCoy 5
Sarah McCoy 3
William McCoy




Andy

1891 for reference

MCCOY, Mary A Head Widow F 41 1850 Lathe Worker Birmingham
MCCOY, David Son Single M 15 1876 Iron Caster Birmingham
MCCOY, Sarah Daughter Single F 13 1878 Birmingham
MCCOY, William Son M 11 1880 Birmingham
MCCOY, Annie Daughter F 5 1886 Birmingham
MCCOY, Edward Son M 3 1888 Birmingham
MCCOY, James Son M 1 1890 Birmingham
TAYLOR, Edward Lodger Single M 38 1853 Labourer Birmingham

Piece:2419 Folio:19 Page: 31

Registration District: Aston
Civil Parish: Nechells
Municipal Borough: Birmingham

Address: 4, 20 Court, Adam Street, Nechells, Birmingham Warwickshire

Mary was a Taylor as well

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1864 (>99%)
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McCoy David Birmingham 6d 244
Taylor Mary Ann Birmingham 6d 244


Andy

Andy...

Now you have really confused me :-S :-S :-S, especially as I cant find a marriage for Edward and Mary

This census thing is so confusing with the changes in age. in 1891 he's 38 10 yrs later he's 51????

1871
MYCOY, David Head M 28 1843 Shropshire (Gun Maker)
MYCOY, Marrion Wife F 23 1848 Warwickshire
MYCOY, Mary Daughter F 6 1865 Warwickshire
MYCOY, Thomas Son M 4 1867 Warwickshire
MYCOY, Kate Daughter F 1 1870 Warwickshire
Piece: 3129
Folio: 39
Page: 23
Registration District: Birmingham
Civil Parish: Birmingham
Municipal Borough: Birmingham
Address: Hampton Street, Great Court House, Birmingham
County: Warwickshire

Chris :)

Karen, I wouldn't worry too much about the age discrepancy 1891 and 1901. It's only 3 years - slightly more than you usually see, but not that unusual. If all other info fits just ignore it.
Jan

Sorry if I sound stupid but does that mean what Anncardiff posted was a possibility or has the research done shown that it is the same Edward???
I dont know how to get past that which I can prove to finding which of many possibilities are correct- if you know what I mean. Which is why I asked if those more experienced could tell me how to narrow things down if possible.

Thanks.

Deaths Dec 1925 (>99%)
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McCoy Mary A 75 Birmingham S. 6d 285

(wonder if above is her?)


(looking again at 1901 image, think Brasscaster is occupation of William)

Chris :)

Thanks Chris. The family were definately brass casters/ iron workers. The 1871 Census is worth another look as I cant find a 1871 on free cen for McCoy.
Still need to find a definative dob for Edward Taylor to trace any further back :-(

Resurrecting this post as I have hit a real brick wall.
I am trying to obtain GF birth certificate without luck. James Taylor/ McCoy b 1890 and his brother Edward b1887 (army records have 8/1887). The geneologist at Birmingham could only find a certificate for Annie McCoy with david McCoy as Father.
national GRO search under james Taylor came back negative have reapplied for taylor/mcCoy but dont seem to be getting anywhere.

name: Edwardus Taylor
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 19 Oct 1888
baptism/christening place: Birmingham, Warwick, England
birth date: 25 Mar 1888
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
I have this on record but still cant find a birth registration??

father's name: Edwardi Taylor
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Mariae Mccoy Taylor
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C01845-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1999524
reference number: item 2
Citing this Record

Looks like there are 3 possibles:

Births Jun 1886 (>99%)
TAYLOR Edward Birmingham 6d 136
TAYLOR Edward Bernard Birmingham 6d 75

Births Sep 1886 (>99%)
TAYLOR Edward Powers Birmingham 6d 165

If your had no middle name, he might be the 1st one, though impossible to be sure.

Jan