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Looking for a marriage Wenlock/Wycherley

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JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 14 Nov 2012 19:34

Can't find it on here or FreeBMD. I'm pressuming that it took place around 1915 to 1930 based on birth of a child John Wenlock in 1924.

For ref

Births Mar 1924 (>99%)
Wenlock John Wycherley W. Bromwich 6b 1470

I'm hoping it's mistranscribed and someone with a wildcard elsewhere might have some luck.

Thanks.Jill

ps. Hoping I've not had a daft moment; stinking cold and been outside working all day affecting the brain cells.

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 14 Nov 2012 19:40

Seems the births started a little earlier than 1924!

Births Mar 1920 Wenlock Howard Wycherley W.Bromwich 6b 2010
Births Jun 1922 Wenlock Susannah Wycherley W.Bromwich 6b 1513
Births Mar 1924 Wenlock John Wycherley W. Bromwich 6b 1470
Births Mar 1926 Wenlock Gwendoline Wycherley W. Bromwich 6b 1338

T x

:-D

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 14 Nov 2012 19:41

Well as the birth is post WW1 it may be that the bride had been married before so wouldn't marry as Wycherley.

Your best bet would to get the birth cert to see the parents names

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 Nov 2012 19:49

An unsourced tree on ancestry has Gwendoline Wenlock b 1925, daughter of John Edward Wenlock b1902 and Louisa Wycherley b 5 Dec 1900

(not seeing a birth for Louisa that fits)

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 14 Nov 2012 19:51

Thanks for the births T. I hadn't bothered to look for any siblings as my friend today was wondering where the family originated from. So I was just going for a direct line back. I'll add the info to what I give him though.

Shirley. That's something I hadn't thought of. Will work on that as a definite possibility. Thanks.

Thank you both. JE

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 Nov 2012 19:55

I wouldn't trust the info on that ancestry tree, they have John Edward b 1902 West Bromwich but I think this death is for that birth record:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: John Edward Wenlock
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1909
Age at Death: 7
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 41

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 14 Nov 2012 19:55

Hi MC.

Thanks. I'll see if I can find enough to support this being the couple I'm after. And it is relevent to what T found for me. At least having her name, I might be able to find a possible previous marriage.J

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 14 Nov 2012 19:57

Thanks MC. Another Ancestry tree. Another work of fiction it would seem. That's why I'm only going to bare it in mind.J

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 Nov 2012 19:57

This is interesting though:

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1919
Sheldon Louisa Wenlock W.Bromwich 6b 2065
Wenlock John Sheldon W. Bromwich 6b 2065

Just a possibility that she was born as one name but known as another (mother's remarriage, etc?)

Catherine

Catherine Report 14 Nov 2012 20:05

I wonder?

Marriages Sep 1919 (>99%)
Parker Eliza E Westwood W.Bromwich 6b 2065
xxxx Sheldon Louisa Wenlock W.Bromwich 6b 2065
xxxx Wenlock John Sheldon W. Bromwich 6b 2065
Westwood Frederick Parker W. Bromwich 6b 2065

Catherine

Catherine Report 14 Nov 2012 20:06

snap!

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 14 Nov 2012 20:06

Well the area is right and the time period would fit.

So why the difference in the name?

I can't think straight about this.

Going to see if I can find a connection for Louisa Sheldon.

Thanks MC.

Edit And thanks Catherine :-D

Catherine

Catherine Report 14 Nov 2012 20:10

There is also this:-

Marriages Mar 1910 (>99%)
Acton Albert W. Bromwich 6b 1177
DEXTER Elizabeth Annie W.Bromwich 6b 1177
xxxx SHELDON Edward W.Bromwich 6b 1177
xxxx Wychk_ley Louisa W. Bromwich 6b 1177

Christina (Lancashire)

Christina (Lancashire) Report 14 Nov 2012 20:10

There is a marriage in 1909 for a Louisa Wycherley. One groom is missing. A possibility...



1911 England Census
Name: Lousia Sheldon
Age in 1911: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: West Bromwich, Staffordshire
Civil parish: West Bromwich
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: 10 Railway Street, West Bromwich
Marital Status: Married
Years married: 1
Estimated Marriage Year: 1910
Registration district: West Bromwich
Registration District Number: 371
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 17
Piece: 17296
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Sheldon 21
Lousia Sheldon 21
Elizabeth Sheldon 11/12

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Christina (Lancashire)

Christina (Lancashire) Report 14 Nov 2012 20:11

1891 England Census
Name: Louisa Wychesley
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Wychesley
Mother's name: Phelie Wychesley
Gender: Female
Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

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Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2272
Folio: 24
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Wychesley 44
Phelie Wychesley 39
Eliza A Wychesley 18
Mary A Wychesley 14
William Wychesley 11
Amelia Wychesley 7
Louisa Wychesley 1

Catherine

Catherine Report 14 Nov 2012 20:16

In which case?
1901 England Census about Louisa Wycherley
Name: Louisa Wycherley
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Wycherley
Mother's name: Phoebe Wycherley
Gender: Female
Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich, North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Piece: 2722
Folio: 138
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Wycherley 54
Phoebe Wycherley 50
Amelia Wycherley 17
Louisa Wycherley 11
Ada Wycherley 6

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 14 Nov 2012 20:18

Possible birth for your Louisa?

Births Mar 1890 Wycherley Louisa W. Bromwich 6b 831


T x

:-D

Catherine

Catherine Report 14 Nov 2012 20:18

Deaths Dec 1918 (>99%)
Sheldon Edward 29 W.Bromwich 6b 1773

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 14 Nov 2012 20:20

Oh you are all too good to me. I am so struggling. I can't even pull up the 1911. I've just finished my hot choc and am warm for the first time in hours.

Thanks for the help. I'll come back to this when my brains are intact. We have the sneeze orchestra in our house right now. I need a bath and the luxury of some decent sleep.

Sometimes life is just too, too complicated. :-S :-S :-S

Thanks lovely ladies. <3 <3

Catherine

Catherine Report 14 Nov 2012 20:20

WYCHERLEY, Thomas Head Married M 65 1846 White Smith West Bromwich VIEW
WYCHERLEY, Phoebe Wife Married44 years F 62 1849 Birmingham VIEW
WYCHERLEY, Ada Daughter Single F 17 1894 Warehouse Girl West Bromwich Staffs VIEW
SARGENT, Mary I Daughter Widow F 34 1877 Firewood Bundler West Bromwich Staffs VIEW
SARGENT, Joseph Thomas Grandson M 10 1901 School West Bromwich Staffs VIEW
SARGENT, Millicent Granddaughter F 9 1902 School West Bromwich Staffs VIEW
SARGENT, Alfred Grandson M 7 1904 School West Bromwich Staffs VIEW
SARGENT, William Grandson M 5 1906 School West Bromwich Staffs VIEW
MAXWELL, Timothy Nephew Single M 30 1881 Labourer Nut And Bolt Factory West Bromwich Staffs VIEW

RG number: RG14 Piece: 17289 Reference:
RG14PN17289 RG78PN1061 RD371 SD3 ED7 SN77 Registration District: West Bromwich Sub District: West Bromwich South West Enumeration District: 7 Parish: West Bromwich Address: 60 Albert St West Bromwich County: Staffordshire

7 children (6 living and 1 died)
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Marriages Jun 1867 (>99%)
xxxx BATES Phebe Dudley 6c 192 xxxx
HARRIS Emily Dudley 6c 192
Stopp Alfred Dudley 6c 192
xxxx WYCHERLEY Thomas Dudley 6c 192 xxxx