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flora mckillop 1821

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Philip

Philip Report 28 Nov 2012 07:44

wow - thanx guys you have given me a lot to look into......i appreciate all of your hard work thanx for everything
Phil,

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Nov 2012 08:24

Thanks, Anne...............that made a big difference.

I wonder if Philip plans on returning anytime soon

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 22 Nov 2012 00:56

New Potential:
James Brown and Flora McKillop.
No trace of a marriage, but some of the younger children on returns correspond with births found on family search.

1851 Scotland Census about Flora Brown
Name: Flora Brown
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Brown
Gender: Female
Where born: Kilmorie, Buteshire
Parish Number: 554
Civil parish: Kilmory
County: Bute
Address: Cran
James Brown 32
Flora Brown 28
Mary Brown 5
Jean Brown 2
Betsey Brown 9 Mo
Mary Brown 52 Mother

1861 Scotland Census about Flora Brown
Name: Flora Brown
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : James Brown
Gender: Female
Where born: Kilmory Par, Buteshire
Registration number: 556
Registration district: Lochranza
Civil parish: Kilmory
County: Bute
Address: Farm House
James Brown 42
Flora Brown 37
Elizabeth Brown 10
Flora Brown 9
Hugh Brown 7
Margaret Brown 5
Janet Brown 2
Catherine Brown 1

1871 Scotland Census about Flora Kroen
Name: Flora Kroen
[Flora Brown]
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : James Kroen
Gender: Female
Where born: Kilmory, Buteshire
Registration number: 556
Registration district: Lochranza
Civil parish: Kilmory
County: Bute
Address: Craw
Occupation: Schoolmaster Wife
James Kroen 52
Flora Kroen 47
Betsie Kroen 21
Flora Kroen 19
Hugh Kroen 17
Margaret Kroen 15
Catherine Kroen 11
Isabella Kroen 7
John Mcmillan 13 Mo

1881 Scotland Census about Flora Brown
Name: Flora Brown
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : James Brown
Gender: Female
Where born: Kilmory G., Buteshire
Registration number: 556
Registration district: Lochranza
Civil parish: Kilmory
County: Bute
Address: Craw
Occupation: Farmer'S Wife
James Brown 63
Flora Brown 60
Hugh Brown 27
Jane Brown 22
Isabella Brown 17
Jane McMillan 5
Ronald McDonald 4
Jane Robertson 34
William Smyth 13

1891 Scotland Census about Flora Brown
Name: Flora Brown
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : James Brown
Gender: Female
Where born: Kilmory, Buteshire
Registration number: 556
Registration district: Lochranza
Civil parish: Kilmory
County: Bute
Address: Craw
Occupation: Farmers Wife
James Brown 72
Flora Brown 69
Hugh Brown 33
Catherine Brown 29
Andrew Campbell 15
Donald McDonald 10
Margret Kelso 3

Death of Flora Brown other name McKillop aged 72yrs
Registered in Lochranza, 1894.
DC will be required to establish parents and allow you to separate Flora Brown and Flora Bennie

Anne

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 22 Nov 2012 00:26

Done what I can Reggie although I am pretty sure that the info relates to another Flora McKillop... probably her cousin!

Anne

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Nov 2012 00:07

Anne

Could you edit out all the irrelevant lines, to reduce the amount of space taken.............and to enable the whole post to be seen in one go.

That would be so helpful............thank you.

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 21 Nov 2012 23:59

Apologies, I have encountered a problem.....

There were two births for a child called Flora McKillop on Arran
One was the child of John McKillop and Elizabeth Robertson and the other the daughter of Donald McKillop and Catherine Kelso.
Their baptisms were less than a year apart and I suspect that tthe info above refers to the child of Donald and Catherine?
It also looks as if James Bennie was a widower. The 2 older children could not stem from an 1843 marriage.

Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," Flora Mc Killop, 1820

name: Flora Mc Killop
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 09 Oct 1820
baptism/christening place: , KILMORY, BUTE, SCOTLAND
mother's name: Catherine Kelso
father's name: Donald McKillop


name: Flora Mc Killop
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 20 Aug 1821
baptism/christening place: , KILMORY, BUTE, SCOTLAND
father's name: John Mc Killop
mother's name: Elizabeth Robertson

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 21 Nov 2012 22:41

Searched SP and found no death for Flora.
I think this explains it!

1880 United States Federal Census about Flora Bennis
Name: Flora Bennis
Age: 57
Birth Year: abt 1823
Birthplace: Scotland
Home in 1880: Lawrence, Essex, Massachusetts
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Scotland
Mother's Birthplace: Scotland
Occupation: Keeping House
Household Members:
Flora Bennis 57
Christine Bennis 34

Anne
Edit
Massachusetts, Deaths, 1841-1915," Flora Benny, 1895
name: Flora Benny
event: Death
event date: 30 Jul 1895
event place: Andover, Massachusetts
residence: Andover, Mass.
gender: Female
age: 75
marital status: Widowed
birthplace: Scotland
estimated birth year: 1820
burial place: Andover, Mass.
spouse: James Benny

Her son:
Massachusetts, Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988 about James Bennie
Name: James Bennie
Birth Date: abt 1848
Event Type: Death
Event City: Lawrence
Death Date: 22 Dec 1882
Death Age: 34
Father Name: James
Mother Name: Flora

Daugher

"Massachusetts, Deaths, 1841-1915," Christina Bennie, 1888
name: Christina Bennie
event: Death
event date: 29 Oct 1888
event place: Andover, Massachusetts
gender: Female
age: 43
marital status: Single
estimated birth year: 1845
father: James
mother: Flora Mckillop ****

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 21 Nov 2012 22:29

Phillip,
Found this marriage on Family Search.
By following this couple through census returns, it confirms that this Flora Bennie ms McKillop was born in Arran circa 1821

groom's name: James Bennie
bride's name: Flora Mckillop
marriage date: 28 Apr 1843
marriage place: Kilbirnie,Ayr,Scotland
indexing project (batch) number: M11596-4
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 1041381
reference number:


1851 Scotland Census about Flora Bennie
Name: Flora Bennie
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Bennie
Gender: Female
Where born: Orran, Buteshire
Parish Number: 622
Civil parish: Calton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 258 Main St
James Bennie 46
Flora Bennie 30
George Bennie 20
Jane Bennie 13
Catherine Bennie 7
Christina Bennie 6
James Bennie 3
Janet Bennie 1


1861 Scotland Census about Flora Bennie
Name: Flora Bennie
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : James Bennie
Gender: Female
Where born: Arran, Buteshire
Registration number: 587
Registration district: Dalry
Civil parish: Dalry
County: Ayrshire
Address: No 1 Langside Row
Occupation: Drawer's Wife
James Bennie 54
Flora Bennie 39
James Bennie 12
Janet Bennie 10
Margaret Bennie 3


1871 Scotland Census about Flora Binnie
Name: Flora Binnie
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : James Binnie
Gender: Female
Where born: Arran, lamlash
Registration number: 644/3
Registration district: Bridgeton
Civil parish: Glasgow Chalmers
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 11 Greenvale St
James Binnie 65
Flora Binnie 50
Christina Binnie 26
James Binnie 22
Sarah Binnie 15 Grand daughter
Mary Kelos 46 Visitor b Arran


Anne

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Nov 2012 14:51

name: Janet Mc Killop
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 15 Jul 1826
baptism/christening place: , KILMORY, BUTE, SCOTLAND

father's name: John Mc Killop
mother's name: Elizabeth Robertson

indexing project (batch) number: C11554-6

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name: Jean Mac Killop
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 29 Oct 1830
baptism/christening place: , KILMORY, BUTE, SCOTLAND

father's name: John Mac Killop
mother's name: Elizabeth Robertson

indexing project (batch) number: C11554-6

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Nov 2012 12:05

1851 Scotland Census

Name: John Mckillop
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1782
Relationship: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Mckillop
Gender: Male
Where born: Kilbride, Buteshire
Parish Number: 554
Civil parish: Kilmory
Town: Penriock
County: Bute
Address: Penriock
Occupation: Farmer Of 10 Acres
ED: 8
Page: 3 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 8
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1851_116
Household Members:
Name Age
John Mckillop 69
Elizabeth Mckillop 64
Isabel Mckillop 26
Archibald Mckillop 22
Charles Hendry 8 GRANDSON, b. Ardrossan, Ayrshire
John Mclauchlan 3 GRANDSON b. Kilmory, Bute

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1861 Scotland Census

Name: John McKillop
Age: 79
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1782
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Elizabeth McKillop
Gender: Male
Where born: Kilbride Par, Buteshire
Registration number: 556
Registration district: Lochranza
Civil parish: Kilmory
County: Bute
Address: Private House
Occupation: Retired Farmer
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 47
Line: 4
Roll: CSSCT1861_73
Household Members:
Name Age
John McKillop 79
Elizabeth McKillop 74
John McLachlan 13

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Nov 2012 12:03

1841 Scotland Census

Name: John Mckillop
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Gender: Male
Where born: Bute, Scotland
Civil parish: Kilmory
County: Bute
Address: Peurioch
Occupation: Farmer
Parish Number: 554
Household Members:
Name Age
John Mckillop 60
Elizabeth Mckillop 55
Cathrine Mckillop 25
Isabella Mckillop 17
Jannet Mckillop 15
Agnes Mcpherson 25
Chas Stewart 2

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Nov 2012 12:01

?????????

1841 Scotland Census

Name: Flora Mckillop
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Female
Where born: Bute, Scotland
Civil parish: Kilbride
County: Bute
Address: Glensherraig
Occupation: F S
Parish Number: 553
Household Members:
Name Age
John Brown 46
Helen Brown 44
George Brown 4
Charles Brown 4
James Brown 2
Francis Blackie 48
Flora Mckillop 20
Peter Kan 19

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Nov 2012 11:59

How did you work back to this woman without knowing who (or even if) she married?

Helen

Helen Report 21 Nov 2012 11:58

This is Flora McKillop married to Robert Fairlie ... not the Flora born in 1821 which might help clear up the age question.

1841 Scotland Census about Flora Fairley
Name: Flora Fairley
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Dumbarton
County: Dunbartonshire
Address: High Street North Side
Parish Number: 496
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Fairley
27
Flora Fairley
30
Margaret Fairley
4



1851 Scotland Census about Flora Pairsey
Name: Flora Pairsey
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert Pairsey
Gender: Female
Where born: Ceshire, argy
Parish Number: 496
Civil parish: Dumbarton
County: Dumbartonshire
Address: High Street
ED: 2
Page: 11 (click to see others on page)

Household schedule number: 38
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1851_106
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Pairsey
55
Flora Pairsey
40
Margaret Pairsey
14
Robert Pairsey
7
Alexander Pairsey
4
Isabella Pairsey
75
John Mcphail
20

Robert Fairlie was born in Falkirk, Stirlingshire
Isabella Fairlie also born in Falkirk ... and an aunt
John McPhail born in Argyle ... son-in-law



1861 Scotland Census about Flora Fairlie
Name: Flora Fairlie
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Robert Fairlie
Gender: Female
Where born: Kilnorover, argyleshire
Registration number: 496
Registration district: Dumbarton
Civil parish: Dumbarton
County: Dumbartonshire
Address: 156 Close
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 70
Line: 21
Roll: CSSCT1861_67
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Fairlie
52
Flora Fairlie
54
Robert Fairlie
19
Alexander Fairlie
14



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Death
Flora McKillop / Fairlie
1869
County: Lanark
District: Blythswood

Parents names should be registered .. if known by the informant

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Nov 2012 14:32

Well in England /Wales they could marry at 12 and boys at 14 with parental consent. not sure if this also applied to Scotland

Philip

Philip Report 20 Nov 2012 14:28

hi i have a flora mckillop born in 1821 to john mckillop and elizabeth robertson in the parish of kilmory,shiskine and lochranza on the isle of arran
i also have flora mckillop getting married to robert fairlie in the cardross district dumbartonshire 30 nov 1833 but my problem is that flora would only be 12 yrs old.
would people be married at that age in the 1830s in scotland