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28 Nov 2012 07:44 |
wow - thanx guys you have given me a lot to look into......i appreciate all of your hard work thanx for everything Phil,
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ErikaH
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22 Nov 2012 08:24 |
Thanks, Anne...............that made a big difference.
I wonder if Philip plans on returning anytime soon
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GlasgowLass
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22 Nov 2012 00:56 |
New Potential: James Brown and Flora McKillop. No trace of a marriage, but some of the younger children on returns correspond with births found on family search.
1851 Scotland Census about Flora Brown Name: Flora Brown Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823 Relationship: Wife Spouse's Name: James Brown Gender: Female Where born: Kilmorie, Buteshire Parish Number: 554 Civil parish: Kilmory County: Bute Address: Cran James Brown 32 Flora Brown 28 Mary Brown 5 Jean Brown 2 Betsey Brown 9 Mo Mary Brown 52 Mother
1861 Scotland Census about Flora Brown Name: Flora Brown Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : James Brown Gender: Female Where born: Kilmory Par, Buteshire Registration number: 556 Registration district: Lochranza Civil parish: Kilmory County: Bute Address: Farm House James Brown 42 Flora Brown 37 Elizabeth Brown 10 Flora Brown 9 Hugh Brown 7 Margaret Brown 5 Janet Brown 2 Catherine Brown 1
1871 Scotland Census about Flora Kroen Name: Flora Kroen [Flora Brown] Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : James Kroen Gender: Female Where born: Kilmory, Buteshire Registration number: 556 Registration district: Lochranza Civil parish: Kilmory County: Bute Address: Craw Occupation: Schoolmaster Wife James Kroen 52 Flora Kroen 47 Betsie Kroen 21 Flora Kroen 19 Hugh Kroen 17 Margaret Kroen 15 Catherine Kroen 11 Isabella Kroen 7 John Mcmillan 13 Mo
1881 Scotland Census about Flora Brown Name: Flora Brown Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : James Brown Gender: Female Where born: Kilmory G., Buteshire Registration number: 556 Registration district: Lochranza Civil parish: Kilmory County: Bute Address: Craw Occupation: Farmer'S Wife James Brown 63 Flora Brown 60 Hugh Brown 27 Jane Brown 22 Isabella Brown 17 Jane McMillan 5 Ronald McDonald 4 Jane Robertson 34 William Smyth 13
1891 Scotland Census about Flora Brown Name: Flora Brown Age: 69 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : James Brown Gender: Female Where born: Kilmory, Buteshire Registration number: 556 Registration district: Lochranza Civil parish: Kilmory County: Bute Address: Craw Occupation: Farmers Wife James Brown 72 Flora Brown 69 Hugh Brown 33 Catherine Brown 29 Andrew Campbell 15 Donald McDonald 10 Margret Kelso 3
Death of Flora Brown other name McKillop aged 72yrs Registered in Lochranza, 1894. DC will be required to establish parents and allow you to separate Flora Brown and Flora Bennie
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22 Nov 2012 00:26 |
Done what I can Reggie although I am pretty sure that the info relates to another Flora McKillop... probably her cousin!
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ErikaH
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22 Nov 2012 00:07 |
Anne
Could you edit out all the irrelevant lines, to reduce the amount of space taken.............and to enable the whole post to be seen in one go.
That would be so helpful............thank you.
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GlasgowLass
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21 Nov 2012 23:59 |
Apologies, I have encountered a problem.....
There were two births for a child called Flora McKillop on Arran One was the child of John McKillop and Elizabeth Robertson and the other the daughter of Donald McKillop and Catherine Kelso. Their baptisms were less than a year apart and I suspect that tthe info above refers to the child of Donald and Catherine? It also looks as if James Bennie was a widower. The 2 older children could not stem from an 1843 marriage.
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," Flora Mc Killop, 1820
name: Flora Mc Killop gender: Female baptism/christening date: 09 Oct 1820 baptism/christening place: , KILMORY, BUTE, SCOTLAND mother's name: Catherine Kelso father's name: Donald McKillop
name: Flora Mc Killop gender: Female baptism/christening date: 20 Aug 1821 baptism/christening place: , KILMORY, BUTE, SCOTLAND father's name: John Mc Killop mother's name: Elizabeth Robertson
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GlasgowLass
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21 Nov 2012 22:41 |
Searched SP and found no death for Flora. I think this explains it!
1880 United States Federal Census about Flora Bennis Name: Flora Bennis Age: 57 Birth Year: abt 1823 Birthplace: Scotland Home in 1880: Lawrence, Essex, Massachusetts Race: White Gender: Female Relation to Head of House: Self (Head) Marital Status: Widowed Father's Birthplace: Scotland Mother's Birthplace: Scotland Occupation: Keeping House Household Members: Flora Bennis 57 Christine Bennis 34
Anne Edit Massachusetts, Deaths, 1841-1915," Flora Benny, 1895 name: Flora Benny event: Death event date: 30 Jul 1895 event place: Andover, Massachusetts residence: Andover, Mass. gender: Female age: 75 marital status: Widowed birthplace: Scotland estimated birth year: 1820 burial place: Andover, Mass. spouse: James Benny
Her son: Massachusetts, Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988 about James Bennie Name: James Bennie Birth Date: abt 1848 Event Type: Death Event City: Lawrence Death Date: 22 Dec 1882 Death Age: 34 Father Name: James Mother Name: Flora
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"Massachusetts, Deaths, 1841-1915," Christina Bennie, 1888 name: Christina Bennie event: Death event date: 29 Oct 1888 event place: Andover, Massachusetts gender: Female age: 43 marital status: Single estimated birth year: 1845 father: James mother: Flora Mckillop ****
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21 Nov 2012 22:29 |
Phillip, Found this marriage on Family Search. By following this couple through census returns, it confirms that this Flora Bennie ms McKillop was born in Arran circa 1821
groom's name: James Bennie bride's name: Flora Mckillop marriage date: 28 Apr 1843 marriage place: Kilbirnie,Ayr,Scotland indexing project (batch) number: M11596-4 system origin: Scotland-ODM source film number: 1041381 reference number:
1851 Scotland Census about Flora Bennie Name: Flora Bennie Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relationship: Wife Spouse's Name: James Bennie Gender: Female Where born: Orran, Buteshire Parish Number: 622 Civil parish: Calton County: Lanarkshire Address: 258 Main St James Bennie 46 Flora Bennie 30 George Bennie 20 Jane Bennie 13 Catherine Bennie 7 Christina Bennie 6 James Bennie 3 Janet Bennie 1
1861 Scotland Census about Flora Bennie Name: Flora Bennie Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : James Bennie Gender: Female Where born: Arran, Buteshire Registration number: 587 Registration district: Dalry Civil parish: Dalry County: Ayrshire Address: No 1 Langside Row Occupation: Drawer's Wife James Bennie 54 Flora Bennie 39 James Bennie 12 Janet Bennie 10 Margaret Bennie 3
1871 Scotland Census about Flora Binnie Name: Flora Binnie Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : James Binnie Gender: Female Where born: Arran, lamlash Registration number: 644/3 Registration district: Bridgeton Civil parish: Glasgow Chalmers County: Lanarkshire Address: 11 Greenvale St James Binnie 65 Flora Binnie 50 Christina Binnie 26 James Binnie 22 Sarah Binnie 15 Grand daughter Mary Kelos 46 Visitor b Arran
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21 Nov 2012 14:51 |
name: Janet Mc Killop gender: Female baptism/christening date: 15 Jul 1826 baptism/christening place: , KILMORY, BUTE, SCOTLAND
father's name: John Mc Killop mother's name: Elizabeth Robertson indexing project (batch) number: C11554-6
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name: Jean Mac Killop gender: Female baptism/christening date: 29 Oct 1830 baptism/christening place: , KILMORY, BUTE, SCOTLAND
father's name: John Mac Killop mother's name: Elizabeth Robertson indexing project (batch) number: C11554-6
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ErikaH
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21 Nov 2012 12:05 |
1851 Scotland Census
Name: John Mckillop Age: 69 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1782 Relationship: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Mckillop Gender: Male Where born: Kilbride, Buteshire Parish Number: 554 Civil parish: Kilmory Town: Penriock County: Bute Address: Penriock Occupation: Farmer Of 10 Acres ED: 8 Page: 3 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 8 Line: 1 Roll: CSSCT1851_116 Household Members: Name Age John Mckillop 69 Elizabeth Mckillop 64 Isabel Mckillop 26 Archibald Mckillop 22 Charles Hendry 8 GRANDSON, b. Ardrossan, Ayrshire John Mclauchlan 3 GRANDSON b. Kilmory, Bute
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1861 Scotland Census
Name: John McKillop Age: 79 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1782 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Elizabeth McKillop Gender: Male Where born: Kilbride Par, Buteshire Registration number: 556 Registration district: Lochranza Civil parish: Kilmory County: Bute Address: Private House Occupation: Retired Farmer ED: 3 Household schedule number: 47 Line: 4 Roll: CSSCT1861_73 Household Members: Name Age John McKillop 79 Elizabeth McKillop 74 John McLachlan 13
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ErikaH
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21 Nov 2012 12:03 |
1841 Scotland Census
Name: John Mckillop Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781 Gender: Male Where born: Bute, Scotland Civil parish: Kilmory County: Bute Address: Peurioch Occupation: Farmer Parish Number: 554 Household Members: Name Age John Mckillop 60 Elizabeth Mckillop 55 Cathrine Mckillop 25 Isabella Mckillop 17 Jannet Mckillop 15 Agnes Mcpherson 25 Chas Stewart 2
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ErikaH
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21 Nov 2012 12:01 |
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1841 Scotland Census
Name: Flora Mckillop Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Gender: Female Where born: Bute, Scotland Civil parish: Kilbride County: Bute Address: Glensherraig Occupation: F S Parish Number: 553 Household Members: Name Age John Brown 46 Helen Brown 44 George Brown 4 Charles Brown 4 James Brown 2 Francis Blackie 48 Flora Mckillop 20 Peter Kan 19
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ErikaH
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21 Nov 2012 11:59 |
How did you work back to this woman without knowing who (or even if) she married?
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Helen
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21 Nov 2012 11:58 |
This is Flora McKillop married to Robert Fairlie ... not the Flora born in 1821 which might help clear up the age question.
1841 Scotland Census about Flora Fairley Name: Flora Fairley Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Gender: Female Where born: Scotland Civil parish: Dumbarton County: Dunbartonshire Address: High Street North Side Parish Number: 496 Household Members: Name Age Robert Fairley 27 Flora Fairley 30 Margaret Fairley 4
1851 Scotland Census about Flora Pairsey Name: Flora Pairsey Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Relationship: Wife Spouse's Name: Robert Pairsey Gender: Female Where born: Ceshire, argy Parish Number: 496 Civil parish: Dumbarton County: Dumbartonshire Address: High Street ED: 2 Page: 11 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 38 Line: 2 Roll: CSSCT1851_106 Household Members: Name Age Robert Pairsey 55 Flora Pairsey 40 Margaret Pairsey 14 Robert Pairsey 7 Alexander Pairsey 4 Isabella Pairsey 75 John Mcphail 20
Robert Fairlie was born in Falkirk, Stirlingshire Isabella Fairlie also born in Falkirk ... and an aunt John McPhail born in Argyle ... son-in-law
1861 Scotland Census about Flora Fairlie Name: Flora Fairlie Age: 54 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : Robert Fairlie Gender: Female Where born: Kilnorover, argyleshire Registration number: 496 Registration district: Dumbarton Civil parish: Dumbarton County: Dumbartonshire Address: 156 Close ED: 4 Household schedule number: 70 Line: 21 Roll: CSSCT1861_67 Household Members: Name Age Robert Fairlie 52 Flora Fairlie 54 Robert Fairlie 19 Alexander Fairlie 14
Free search on Scotlandspeople
Death Flora McKillop / Fairlie 1869 County: Lanark District: Blythswood
Parents names should be registered .. if known by the informant
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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20 Nov 2012 14:32 |
Well in England /Wales they could marry at 12 and boys at 14 with parental consent. not sure if this also applied to Scotland
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Philip
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20 Nov 2012 14:28 |
hi i have a flora mckillop born in 1821 to john mckillop and elizabeth robertson in the parish of kilmory,shiskine and lochranza on the isle of arran i also have flora mckillop getting married to robert fairlie in the cardross district dumbartonshire 30 nov 1833 but my problem is that flora would only be 12 yrs old. would people be married at that age in the 1830s in scotland
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