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finding relatives of edward charles phelps

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lucie

lucie Report 24 Nov 2012 12:51

Thanks everyone for all of your helpful advice, clearly a novice like me needs as much help as I can get! I have ordered the death certificate now, so we will just have to see what happens next xxxxxx

Mike *

Mike * Report 24 Nov 2012 12:15

You don't say which site you are looking on.
Are you using freebmd ?


Are you putting in too much information.

For example .. if you enter Edward Charles and the record is only Edward C. it won't show up.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 24 Nov 2012 10:22

Hi Lucie

I just tried it and it works for me.

Click on Marriage Search..........

Put Phelps in the Groom Surname box and Watts in the Bride Surname Box......year married between 1942 and 1942 and it should pop up.

Olive's death does not show on there..........but it does on FreeBMD.

lucie

lucie Report 24 Nov 2012 09:45

Hi reggie thanks for that link... I have tried to input the information that I have but it shows up with 0 matches, but I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong as I also looked for their wedding ( as a test) and I couldn't get a match on that either! We know Edward charles phelps married olive watts in 1942 in st ethelberts church in little dean in the forest of Dean . We also know that she died in sept of 1947, so why can't I get a hit on that site? She was 24 when she died

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Nov 2012 08:44

The only way to establish cause of death is indeed to purchase the cert.

To see whether there were issue from the marriage, go to freebmd and put the surnames in the appropriate boxes and click on 'find'

OR................

................use the following site, and follow the same procedure

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/

lucie

lucie Report 24 Nov 2012 08:08

Ok, so after a pretty sleepless night with everything whirling around in my head..... Is it possible to find out whether there were children from the first marriage ( Edward Charles phelps and olive watts?) if so,how do I go about doing so? Also, if we wanted to find out how olive died I presume we would need to order a copy of her death certificate?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 23 Nov 2012 23:42

Good to see you found your way on to the "Find Ancestors" board Lucie.
:-)

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 23 Nov 2012 23:00

The marriage was pretty close after her death too. It's quite possible they had already parted some time before of course. Most people didn't divorce as it was tricky and expensive.
Normally I might suggest checking electoral register for his address when he married your grandmother, to see if possible who else was living there, but as there were no registers during the war this could only be done for a couple of years.
Jan

lucie

lucie Report 23 Nov 2012 22:54

yes thankyou for pointing that out...... we had noticed :-)

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 23 Nov 2012 22:53

The time between the death of Olive and the birth of the first child to Phelps and Stock marriage Is dubious? Possible skeletons in the cupboard

Roy

patchem

patchem Report 23 Nov 2012 22:42

Which death register do you mean, and are you using maiden or married name?

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Nov 2012 22:41

Are you using freebmd ?

That's where it was found.

LINK
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Stupid question but are you putting Phelps Olive ?

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 23 Nov 2012 22:41

What do you mean by death register Lucie? What site are you using?
To see any more detail you would need the cert.
Jan

lucie

lucie Report 23 Nov 2012 22:37

me again..... when we put her details into the death register it shows no results what are we doing wrong?

lucie

lucie Report 23 Nov 2012 22:35

aha! I don't know how we came to that conclusion! told you we were being thick! so, she died in 1947? everyone has been so kind thankyou

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 23 Nov 2012 22:25

Lucie, Age on the death index is 24 years in 1947 birth is 1923 so she was a younger woman not older?

Roy

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 23 Nov 2012 22:25

The reference numbers are necessary should you wish to get any of the certs. These can be ordered online and cost £9.25.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Olive was 7 years younger than him wasn't she? Born 1923.

Jan

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Nov 2012 22:22

Olive was 24 when she died .
What do you mean by too old ?

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Nov 2012 22:21

The reference numbers are for ordering the certificate

lucie

lucie Report 23 Nov 2012 22:19

everyone is being so kind in replying, thankyou. we have come to these names too, but the ages of the brides don't seem to correspond ( they all seem too old) although, I suppose he could have had an older woman. I know we are being horribly thick, but what do we do with the reference numbers attached to the relevant documents