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trying to find a birth for elsie bird who died elsie lightfoot in 1998 in whitehaven
any help would be great and many thanks in advance

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Elsie Lightfoot
Name: Elsie Lightfoot
Birth Date: 26 Apr 1913
Date of Registration: May 1998
Age at Death: 85
Registration district: Whitehaven
Inferred County: Cumberland
Register Number: A40C
District and Subdistrict: 3851A
Entry number: 97

Dea x

Elsie Bird
Birth 1913


parents :
John Bird 1883 –
Martha Williams 1877 –


1935 Marriage Whitehaven
to James Lightfoot


Death 1998 - Whitehaven Cumbria

Look for the birth yourself on freebmd..............it's that simple

Do you KNOW that this woman's maiden name was BIRD?

yes i did know that her maiden name was bird but there was 2 births around the same time but i know have her birth so i look again for the correct parentage
thank you reggie

You first need to check her marriage cert to confirm father's name.

Any info from family trees needs verifying.

For instance, it says that Elsie re-married .... but if she died as Lightfoot, I find that confusing.


Also, if you were checking 2 births around the same time, you could have disclosed an idea of DOB

You are right Mike - Elsie should have died with a different surname if she re-married !

I wonder who she married and when?

Dea x

Is this Elsie's death:-

Name: POOLE, Elsie
Registration district: Whitehaven
County: Cumberland
Year of registration: 1998
Month of registration: May
Date of birth: 26 April 1913
District no: 3851A
Reg no: A40C
Ent no: 097
DOR: 598

There is a corresponding marriage for Elsie Lightfoot to Poole in Whitehaven in 1976. The details of this death are the same as the Elsie Lightfoot entry. I wonder if she was known by both names for some reason.

Kath. x

You would need Elsie's marriage certificate to confirm her father's name but I think this is possibly Elsie's parents and siblings in the 1911 census:-

1911 census transcription details for: 9 Scalegill Moor Row

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN31516 RG78PN1810 RD577 SD3 ED8 SN158
Reg. District: Whitehaven
Sub District: Egremont
Parish: Egremont
Enum. District: 8

Address: 9 Scalegill Moor Row
County: Cumberland

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

BIRD, Thomas Head Married M 38 1873 Railway Engine Locomotive Driver Oldbury Worcestershire
BIRD, Martha Ann Wife Married 15 years F 34 1877 Bigrigg Cumberland
BIRD, Thomas Son Single M 14 1897 Locomotive Stone Keeper Moor Row Cumberland
BIRD, John Son Single M 11 1900 School Moor Row Cumberland
BIRD, George Son Single M 5 1906 Scalegill Place Cumberland
BIRD, Joseph Son Single M 2 1909 Scalegill Place Cumberland
BIRD, Margrate Jane Daughter Single F 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 Scalegill Place Cumberland

Kath. x

Possibly Elsie's father with his parents in the 1881 census:-

1881 census transcription details for: 15, New Meeting St, Oldbury (Worcs)

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 2837
Folio: 73
Page: 3
Reg. District: West Bromwich
Sub District: Oldbury
Parish: Oldbury (Worcs)
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: 15, New Meeting St, Oldbury (Worcs)
County: Staffordshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

BIRD, Thomas Head Married M 31 1850 Waggon Builder
Burton, Derbyshire
BIRD, Sushannah Wife Married F 30 1851
Oldbury, Worcestershire
BIRD, William Son Single M 10 1871
Oldbury, Worcestershire
BIRD, Thomas Son Single M 8 1873
Oldbury, Worcestershire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
BIRD, Mary Daughter Single F 3 1878
Oldbury, Worcestershire
LEESON, Ann Mother In Law Married F 63 1818
Ireland

Kath. x

thank you for your posts guys

Stephanie can you tell us if Elsie's death cert is in the name of Lightfoot ?

i have spoken to with my partner this morning and she had never re-married
hope this helps as i have not actually got a death certificate

The two deaths that are registered in the names of Elsie Lightfoot and Elsie Poole must be for the same person as the birth date given on both is the same and the entry numbers are the same.

I think she may have remarried but perhaps the marriage didn't work out or for some other reason the person registering the death thought they had better mention the two names. It is strange because if she was known by both names I would have expected only one entry with the names given something like....."Lightfoot otherwise Poole".

I would think you need to get the death certificate.

Kath. x

ok thank you kathleen does seem confusing