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Sheila

Sheila Report 30 Nov 2012 18:50

Please someone find out what happened to Philip Puxley D O B not known who married Helen Chown b 1884 in 1915 St Thomas Devon.
I know Helen went to live in Swansea but not when or if Philip was with her.
She lived with Frederick Webb for some time before they married in 1956 Exeter.
I would like to know what happened after she married Philip ,where they went and how she ended up in Swansea.
Did Philip die or did they divorce.

Thank you
Sheila

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 30 Nov 2012 18:58

Found this:

England, Andrews Newspaper Index Cards, 1790-1976
Name: Helen Chown
Spouse's Name: Philip Puxley
Publication Date: 8 Apr 1956

It says "Became wife of Philip Puxley. advt for her"

Don't know what it means, perhaps he was trying to find her and was placing an advert?

Or, perhaps he'd died and her whereabouts were being sought to inform her. Perhaps that's when she knew she was legally free to remarry?

EDIT:
Looks like my second guess was correct -

"PUXLEY - Philip Puxley (Deceased). Anyone having knowledge of the whereabouts of Helen Puxley (nee Chown), wife of the late Philip Puxley of 1 Brookdale, New Southgate, London, N11 please communicate with Messrs Hamilton-Hill and Partner, solicitors, 263 Green Lanes, Palmers Green, London, N13"

Helen

Helen Report 30 Nov 2012 19:06

England, Andrews Newspaper Index Cards, 1790-1976 about Helen Puxley
Name: Helen Puxley
Spouse's Name: Philip Puxley
Publication Date: 8 Apr 1956

This one says hes deceased, solicitors are looking for her.

Helen

Helen Report 30 Nov 2012 19:08

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Philip Puxley
Name: Philip Puxley
Probate Date: 25 Sep 1954
Death Date: 24 May 1951
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: London, England

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Philip Puxley
Name: Philip Puxley
Birth Date: abt 1879
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1951
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5d
Page: 418

Helen

Helen Report 30 Nov 2012 19:09

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Philip Puxley
Name: Philip Puxley
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1878
Registration district: Poplar
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 599 (click to see others on page)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 30 Nov 2012 19:22

The detail of the 1954 probate record posted above reads:

"Philip Puxley, of 1 Brookdale, arnos Grove, Middlesex died at Whittington Hospital, Highgate Wing, London, N19. Administration to Louise Fanny Mitchell, married woman. Effects £431 0s 9d

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 30 Nov 2012 19:49

I think Louisa Fanny Mitchell was Philip Puxley's sister and this may be her marriage:

Civil Registration event: Marriage

Name: PUXLEY, Louisa Fanny
Registration district: Hackney
County: London
Year of registration: 1910
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 1B
Page no: 655
MarriageFinder: Louisa Fanny Puxley married one of the following people:

KING, Edward Charles
MITCHELL, John <<
STENSON, Alice Edith

Philip appears to have been a witness at the marriage:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Louisa Fanny Puxley, spinster
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Age: 26
Spouse Name: John Mitchell, bachelor. A hat maker
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 9 Jan 1910
Parish: Hackney St Peter
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Philip Puxley (Deceased) Nautical Instrument maker.
Spouse Father Name: John Mitchell - hatmaker
Register Type: Parish Register

Address for both: 139 Hertford Road

Witnesses: Philip Puxley and Albert Mitchell.

Sheila

Sheila Report 30 Nov 2012 21:13

Thank you for the information.
Is there anywhere that would say if Helen ever went to London with Philip or how she landed up in Swansea or maybe she went to London and met Philip there before coming back to Devon to get married.

Sheila

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 30 Nov 2012 21:53

I'm amazed fhow many Puxley's there are in Swansea!!!! 278 going back to the 1600s

patchem

patchem Report 30 Nov 2012 23:51

Have you got Philip and Helen's marriage certificate, and do you know of any children?
Helen was 31 at marriage, in wartime.
Which side of the family are you connected to?
Thanks

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Dec 2012 12:23

Can't see Philip & Helen together on London ER
Couldn't see any children on FreeBMD, either.

As suggested, the marriage cert might help.

Sheila

Sheila Report 1 Dec 2012 17:11

Hi patchem/MarieCeleste.
Sorry no marriage cert ,only knew her when in my teens and she was with Frederick Webb in Swansea and they came to stay with us at Stoke Canon in Devon.
Have only just found out she was married to Philip Puxley,
No children were spoken about or any other family.
Helen and my grandmother Susan were half sisters their father was Frederick Chown b 1849 Exminster
In 1911 census Helen was living with her parents Frederick and Jane at Middle Tousington Cotts Exminster.
AS there are no Aunts or Uncles alive I doubt if I shall ever find out how it came about that Philip was in London and Helen in Swansea.
Thank you
Sheila

Sheila

Sheila Report 5 Dec 2012 18:20

Hello everyone
I have been looking on Free BMD and there are a lot of Frederick W Webb`s getting married in the London area.Some in Pancras and Hackney where Philip Puxley was.
I am wondering if my Frederick W Webb b 1877 Swansea went to live in London when he was younger and got married but then he met Helen Puxley nee Chown and they both separated from their other half and then went to Swansea to live.
Is there any way of checking if this could have happened please.
Thank you
Sheila

patchem

patchem Report 5 Dec 2012 23:06

Which censuses have you found your Frederick W Webb in?
(Parents' names?)
Thanks

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 Dec 2012 09:28

Could this possibly be him in 1911? (Location seems to fit)

WEBB, Frederick William Head Married M 33 1878 Salesman Collector Single Sewing Machine Coy Ltd Londore Swansea Wales
WEBB, Fanny Maud Wife Married6 years F 31 1880 Cordiff S Wales
WEBB, Charles Henry Son M 4 1907 Cordiff S Wales
WEBB, Frederick Lawrence Son M 2 1909 Dedonport Devon
ARSCOTT, Emma Servant Single F 38 1873 General Domestic South Lolka Devon
VICTOR, Ethelmay Servant Single F 16 1895 Nursemaid Domestic Devonport Devon

RG number: RG14 Piece: 13017 Reference: RG14PN13017 RG78PN751 RD278 SD1 ED3 SN250
Registration District: Devonport
Sub District: St Aubyn
Enumeration District: 3
Parish: Devonport

Address: 110 Fore St Devonport County: Devonshire

Only those 2 children born.
_____________________________________________________________________

Most likely the marriage for that couple:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1905
EVANS Rachel Cardiff 11a 425
LOCK Fanny Maud Cardiff 11a 425 <<
WATKINS Tom Cardiff 11a 425
WEBB Frederick William Cardiff 11a 425 <<

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 Dec 2012 10:01

If the 1911 I posted is correct then it suggests that everyone may have met in Devon. Philip Puxley had Devonshire connections as he was there on the 1891 census, Frederick William Webb was living there and so was Helen.

There's nothing to suggest Helen ever lived in London. She may have started a relationship with FW Webb whilst in Devon and when their marriages broke up Philip went back to London and she and FW went to his native Swansea.

This is purely hypothesis so you really do need to order some certificates to get more detail.

Sheila

Sheila Report 6 Dec 2012 11:39

Good morning Patchem /MarieCeleste.
Your information sounds very likely ,I had not thought of a Devon connection.
I found on Find My Past 1881 census a Frederick W Webb b 1877 Swansea which matches with father William b 1852 Talgarth Brecknockshire mother Elizabeth b 1859 Cymmer Glamorganshire.
Then looking on Free BMD I think the maiden name for Elizabeth was Price and they married Mar 1873 Crickhowell.
1881 living 20 Westbury St,Swansea(Town) it all matches so I hope I have the right people.
Thank you for all the help you have given me .

Sheila

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 15 Mar 2013 18:34

Copied across from

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1321417?jump=1321417

Please can someone help find the father of Louisa Fanny Puxley. b 1883 Bow
MarieCeleste found her marriage to John Mitchell which shows her father as Philip Puxley but I have not been able to find him or the name of his wife.

I have a brother of Louisa ,Philip b 1879 Poplar, Bow,London don`t know if there were any more children it would be a great help if you could also find that out for me.

So many with the name Philip.

Thank you
Sheila

safc

safc Report 15 Mar 2013 18:46

Name: Louisa F Tuxley
Age (Original): 1
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1880
Birthplace: Bow, Middlesex, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Occupation:
Address: 36 Morville St
Event Place: Bow Aka St Mary Stratford-Le-Bow, Middlesex, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341108
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 489 / 27
Page Number: 47
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Philip Tuxley M 35 Mile End, Middlesex, England
Wife Fanny Tuxley F 21 Bampton, Middlesex, England
Son Philip Tuxley M 2 Bow, Middlesex, England
Daughter Louisa F Tuxley F 1 Bow, Middlesex, England

safc

safc Report 15 Mar 2013 18:46

Births Mar 1880 (>99%)
PUXLEY Louisa Fanny Poplar 1c 657