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Sharon
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19 Dec 2012 21:32 |
Hi Gin Thanks for your help re george Turner 1842 Cromford, Another Question for you do you know when Sarah Turner was born and where and her age when she had George. Sorry been a while getting back to you but took me a while to get round all the info. Thanks
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Sharon
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6 Dec 2012 23:17 |
Thanks for any help Derek and anyone else has given me. it is only since i got the marriage certifiacte for George that says George is his father if you want more will do my best for you. Sharon
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Derek
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6 Dec 2012 22:31 |
Hello Sharon and Gins.have answered you Sharon on my Thread............unfortunately the baptism entry show only Sarah as a parent..which usually means illegitimacy..and since the surname is Turner.if Sarah married later is likely to be to someone other than Turner......'lltry and find out...........you can probably ignore the 1874 marriage mentioned..as I am happy with the later history that you have......
Derek.
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Gee
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5 Dec 2012 14:57 |
County Derbyshire Place Wirksworth Church St Mary RegisterNumber MarriageDate 16 Sep 1811 GroomForename Richard GroomSurname TURNER GroomAge GroomParish Cromford GroomCondition GroomOccupation GroomAbode BrideForename Martha BrideSurname CLARKE BrideAge BrideParish Wirksworth WitnessOneForename George WitnessOneSurname ALLEN WitnessTwoForename Joshua WitnessTwoSurname STREET Notes FileNumber 21643
1841 England Census Name: Richard Turner Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791 Gender: Male Where born: Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Wirksworth Hundred: Wirksworth County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Registration district: Bakewell Sub-registration district: Matlock Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 198 Book: 14 Folio: 13 Page Number: 20 Household Members: Name Age Richard Turner 50 Marther Turner 50 <<<Labourer Sarah Sarnes 25 <<Turner Ann Sarnes 10 <<Turner
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Potty
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5 Dec 2012 13:59 |
Is a brazier the same as a coppersmith (from freereg):
County Derbyshire Place Wirksworth Church St Mary RegisterNumber MarriageDate 24 Dec 1842 GroomForename George GroomSurname TAYLOR GroomAge GroomParish Cromford GroomCondition Bachelor GroomOccupation Brazier GroomAbode BrideForename Sarah BrideSurname TURNER BrideAge BrideParish Cromford BrideCondition Spinster BrideOccupation BrideAbode GroomFatherForename George GroomFatherSurname TAYLOR GroomFatherOccupation Brazier BrideFatherForename Richard BrideFatherSurname TURNER BrideFatherOccupation Labourer WitnessOneForename Gamaliel WitnessOneSurname MARTIN WitnessTwoForename Ann WitnessTwoSurname CLACK Notes FileNumber 21643
A brazier worked with brass (http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/b2.html) ; not that different to copper.
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Potty
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5 Dec 2012 13:24 |
Or was George born Turner (as th baptism Ann posted) and Sarah later married George Taylor?
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Gee
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5 Dec 2012 13:16 |
Births Dec 1842 ---------------------------------------------------- Taylor George Burton on Trent 17 1
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Potty
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5 Dec 2012 13:14 |
Well done, Gins.
George snr is a coppersmith and was born in Yarmouth, Norfolk
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Gee
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5 Dec 2012 13:10 |
I think this is him and the enumerator entered the wrong surname
Edit: Potty has solved the surname change...see below
1861 England Census Name: George Taylor Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Son Father's Name: George Taylor Mother's Name: Sarah Taylor Gender: Male Where born: Cromford, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Rotherham Ecclesiastical parish: Rotherham Town: Rotherham County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Rotherham Sub-registration district: Rotherham ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 111 Piece: 3504 Folio: 101 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age George Taylor 52 Sarah Taylor 52 George Taylor 20 <<<Iron moulder Maria Taylor 18 1851 England Census about George Taylor Name: George Taylor Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relation: Son Father's Name: George Taylor Mother's Name: Sarah Taylor Gender: M (Male) Where born: Cromford, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Winshill Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Registration district: Burton Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Burton ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 84 Piece: 2012 Folio: 14 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age George Taylor 38 <<Coppersmith Sarah Taylor 39 George Taylor 11 Maria Taylor 7 Did Taylor turn into Turner????
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Sharon
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5 Dec 2012 12:46 |
Potty you are right with the 1881 cenus in Kimberworth george hannah thomas eleanor, alice. He was an iron moulder
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Sharon
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5 Dec 2012 12:46 |
Potty you are right with the 1881 cenus in Kimberworth george hannah thomas eleanor, alice. He was an iron moulder
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Potty
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5 Dec 2012 12:36 |
Think we can eliminate this one - shown as Insane:
1861 England Census about George Turner Name: George Turner Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas Turner Mother's Name: Sarah Turner Gender: Male Where born: Eckington, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Eckington and Mosborough County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Chesterfield Sub-registration district: Eckington ED, institution, or vessel: 7e Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 149 Piece: 2534 Folio: 113 Page Number: 33 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Turner 47 Sarah Turner 48 John Turner 23 William Turner 21 George Turner 19 Septimus Turner 12 Sarah Turner 6
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MargaretM
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5 Dec 2012 12:36 |
Bakewell registration district covers Cromford:
Births Mar 1842 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Turner George Bakewell 19 375
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Sharon
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5 Dec 2012 12:36 |
Cromford is in derbyshire yes that was the father i was going along with till i got the marriage certificate last week
he went to kent in 1891 with Hannah they had 2 children then annie & alice
in 1901 they went back to rotherham and were still in that area in 1911
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Potty
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5 Dec 2012 12:32 |
Ann, Cromford is in Derbyshire.
this is the nearest I can find before 1871 but the father is wrong:
1851 England Census about Geo Turner Name: Geo Turner Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas Turner - Tailor Mother's Name: Mary Turner Gender: M (Male) Where born: Cromford, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Derby St Peter County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street Address:
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Disability: View image Registration district: Derby Sub-registration district: St Peter ED, institution, or vessel: 19s Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 36 Piece: 2143 Folio: 400 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Turner 34 Mary Turner 32 Geo Turner 9 Geo Brown 27
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AnnCardiff
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5 Dec 2012 12:32 |
George Turner England and Wales Census, 1901 birth: 1843 Cromford,? Derbyshire census: 31 Mar 1901 Derby,? Derbyshire,? England name: George Turner event: Census event date: 31 Mar 1901 gender: Male age: 58 relationship to head of household: Head birthplace: Cromford, Derbyshire record type: Household registration district: Derby sub-district: Derby ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews civil parish: Derby county: Derbyshire George Turner England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 10 Sep 1843 SAINT MARY,?CROMFORD,?DERBY,?ENGLAND parents: Sarah Turner
name: George Turner gender: Male baptism/christening date: 10 Sep 1843 baptism/christening place: SAINT MARY,CROMFORD,DERBY,ENGLAND mother's name: Sarah Turner indexing project (batch) number: C04979-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 498056 George Turner England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1842 Cromford,? Derbyshire,? England census: 1881 Kimberworth,? Yorkshire (West Riding),? England spouse: Hannah Turner children: Thomas Turner,? Eleanor Turner...
name: George Turner age: 39 gender: Male birth year: 1842 birthplace: Cromford, Derbyshire, England relationship to head of household: Head marital condition: Married profession/occupation: Iron Moulder address: 130 Wortley Road census place: Kimberworth, Yorkshire (West Riding), England record type: Household family history library film: 1342131 the national archives reference: RG11 piece/folio: 4675 / 98 page number: 23 George Turner England and Wales Census, 1901 birth: 1842 Cromford,? Derbyshire census: 31 Mar 1901 Rotherham,? Yorkshire (West Riding),? England name: George Turner event: Census event date: 31 Mar 1901 age: 59 relationship to head of household: Head birthplace: Cromford, Derbyshire record type: Household registration district: Rotherham sub-district: North West Rotherham ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Kimberworth civil parish: Rotherham county: Yorkshire (West Riding)
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AnnCardiff
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5 Dec 2012 12:30 |
welcome Sharon - where is Cromford?
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Sharon
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5 Dec 2012 12:20 |
hi I am trying to find the birth of George Turner in 1842 cromford I have got his marriage cetificate to Hannah wilson in oct 1864. But i cannot find our any more his father is listed on the certificate as George Turner occupation coppersmith. George got married in Rotherham & is listed in 1871 as at Kimberworth ?He is not the artist but i did think so at one point
I have to come to a standstill at the moment with him
His son was Arthur Wilson Turner born in 1870, other childern Eleanor, Thomas Alice & Annie
George died in 1920 in rotherham
Arthur married Mary elizabeth Bramhill in 1891
Thanks for any help
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