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Andreas/Johan Andreas/Andrew Ritterhoff

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Caroline

Caroline Report 9 Dec 2012 12:25

I'm looking for my great grand uncle He was born about July 1873 in St Giles, London and was living in Whitfield Street, St Pancras, London during the census' of 1881 and 1891. I think he may have a marriage in 1903 but don't know who to and can't find him at all in census' of 1901 and 1911. It may be that he has altered his name, as his forename and those of his siblings are made more english.

Any assistance most gratefully received!

Caroline

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Dec 2012 12:37

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Marriages Sep 1903 (>99%)
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Crossman Ada Pancras 1b 307
De Smet Marie Theresa Pancras 1b 307
Ritterhoff Andreas Pancras 1b 307
Scott Walter Pancras 1b 307

Reggie

Reggie Report 9 Dec 2012 12:49

????????

Marriages Jun 1920 (>99%)
Ritterhoff Marie T Higgins Woolwich 1d 2860


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: Marie T Higgins
Birth Date: abt 1872
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1938
Age at Death: 66
Registration district: Battersea
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 344

Caroline

Caroline Report 9 Dec 2012 13:12

His marriage I think is the 1903 as it uses his given name Andreas which he changes to Andrew.

Still mystified as to where he is in 1901 and 1911! Any thoughts?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Dec 2012 13:13

1901 think the name is De Smet on image

Name: Marie De Pinet
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Belgium

Civil parish: Willesden
Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriel
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hendon
Sub-registration district: Willesden
ED, institution, or vessel: 60
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 111
Piece: 1224
Folio: 131
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Marie De Pinet 29
Jane Bryant 35
Frederick Bryant 38

Class: RG13; Piece: 1224; Folio: 131; Page: 18

Caroline

Caroline Report 9 Dec 2012 13:19

I have found an Andrew Ritterhoff serving in the Imperial Yeomanry in the Boer War which may be him...?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Dec 2012 15:03

Doesn't give any personal info and no original image:

Boer War 1899-1902 - Soldier details


Name: Ritterhoff, Andrew
Rank: Trooper
Soldier number: 32862
Unit: 91 Company (Sharpshooters) 23 battalion Imperial Yeomanry
Notes: Discharged from 93rd Coy. I.Y.. 50 Wintfield St., Tottenham Court Rd..
The Queen's South Africa (QSA) Medal Clasps: Cape Colony, Orange Free State, Transvaal, South Africa 1901, South Africa 1902
Age:
Literary references: The National Archives WO128. Imperial Yeomanry, Soldiers' Documents, South African War.

Medal roll: Roll Page 129 0
The Queen's South Africa (QSA) Medal Clasps: Cape Colony, Orange Free State, Transvaal, South Africa 1901, South Africa 1902

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Dec 2012 15:10

I think that 1903 birth was his nephew:

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: William Joseph Ritterhoff
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 28 Dec 1903
Father's Name: Henry Albert Ritterhoff
Mother's Name: Lary Sarah Ritterhoff
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone St Andrew
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Registers

There was also a Henry William to the same parents in 1901.

Andrew

Andrew Report 9 Dec 2012 16:07

Also this

K, Military Campaign Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1949
about A Ritterhoff
Name: A Ritterhoff
Campaign or Service: South Africa - Second Boer War
Service Date: 1899-1902
Service Location: South Africa
Regiment or Unit Name: 91st Company 23rd Battalion Imperial Yeomanry
Regimental Number: 32962



Andy

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 9 Dec 2012 16:21

The Boer record Marie Celeste posted gives:

Notes: Discharged from 93rd Coy. I.Y.. 50 Wintfield St., Tottenham Court Rd..

In census 1911 Andrew's mother Marie Josephine is listed as living at 52 Whitfield St. I can't find No 50 on an address search to check the occupants.

No such address as Wintfield Street comes up on address search.


Census 1911

Address: 52 Whitfield ST County: London

RITTERHAFF, Marie Josephine Head Widow F 63 1848 Launderss Brussels

She was also living at the same address 52 Whitfield St in 1901 as Mary Ritterhoff, so it looks like the Boer war record almost certainly applies to 'your' Andrew.

Caroline

Caroline Report 9 Dec 2012 16:29

That is definitely him as the address is Whitfield Street off Tottenham Court Road! That's my second relative in the Boer Wars :-)

Wonder what happened to him after he came back, can't find him in the 1911 census?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Dec 2012 19:35

Wonder if he might have anglicised his surname, too?

Have looked on shipping lists, overseas deaths, newspaper archives and not seeing anything for him.

Reggie

Reggie Report 9 Dec 2012 22:41

Any comment on the info I posted?

Caroline

Caroline Report 12 Dec 2012 19:52

I wonder if when he married in 1903 that he changed his name then perhaps?

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 12 Dec 2012 20:24

The 1920 marriage Reggie posted implies that Andreas/Andrew had almost certainly married Marie Theresa De Smet.

She married again using the name Ritterhoff - though maybe they changed it for day to day use and retained it for official purposes only?

The 1920 marriage cert would be interesting to see if Marie Theresa is a widow or a divorcee, though I couldn't find any records of a divorce on the National Archives site.

Reggie

Reggie Report 12 Dec 2012 21:23

Caroline

When asking for help, it is important that you take notice of all replies.............not just selected ones.

Caroline

Caroline Report 14 Dec 2012 13:17

This is all great! Thank you all.

Caroline

Caroline Report 16 Dec 2012 21:26

Thanks for all the responses!

It is a real conundrum as to where Andreas/Andrew Ritterhoff disappeared to, suspect there may be a transcription error somewhere.

Caroline

Caroline Report 3 Mar 2014 16:16

I'm struggling to find what happened to Andreas/Andrew, guess he died as his wife remarried, but can't find any trace of him after 1901. Any thoughts? Thanks.

Reggie

Reggie Report 3 Mar 2014 16:20


So.....what was her status on the cert?