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Difficulties with 1841 and 1861 census

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Margaret

Margaret Report 11 Dec 2012 12:15

I have 1851 Census showing Thomas Evans 29 (b. 1824 Llansadwrn, Carmarthenshire) wife Anne (b.1823 Llangadock, Carmarthenshire) and children John 6, Anne 5 and David 2 - all born Llangadock plus 2 lodgers. By 1871 they only have two young children showing - Rees 9 and Elizabeth 6 - both born Llangadock.

However I cannot locate the family on 1861 census when I would have expected to see them with children John 16, Anne 15 and David 12. I appreciate that maybe the two eldest could have possibly sent elsewhere to work but there is no sign of David aged 12 or his parents.

The 1841 is probably impossible as by then the father Thomas would only have been about 17 and as I have no idea whatsoever of his parents names have virtually given up on this.

My biggest problem when scrolling the inumerable Thomas Evans there are in Wales on the various census returns is the fact that my knowledge of the different areas of Wales is unfortunately Nil. Because of this I cannot recognisde whether one 'village' is virtually next to another etc. etc.

If anyone, maybe with knowledge of Wales, is prepared to have a quick look and see if they can see this family on 1861 census I would be very grateful., Thank you.

Gins

Gins Report 11 Dec 2012 12:24

Is this them?


1861 Wales Census
about Ann Evans
Name: Ann Evans
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Evans
Gender: Female
Where born: Llangadock, Carmarthenshire, Wales

Civil Parish or Township: Cilycwm
County/Island: Carmarthenshire
Country: Wales

Registration district: Llandovery
Sub-registration district: Cilycwm
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4125
Folio: 33
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Evans 37
Ann Evans 31
Ann Evans 5
Evan Evans 3
David Evans 2
Thomas Evans 1/12
Morgan Jones 19
David Davies 18
Mary Jones 21
Anne Thomas 13
Mary Thomas 11


Margaret

Margaret Report 11 Dec 2012 12:30

Thank you for trying Gins but by 1861 the children would have been 16, 15 and 12 respectively.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Dec 2012 12:33

don't you already have postings on this family Margaret?

Maddie

Maddie Report 11 Dec 2012 12:43

?????????? 1861
Name: Thomas Evans
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Anne Evans
Gender: Male
Where born: Llangodock, Carmarthenshire, Wales

Civil Parish or Township: Aberdare
Town: Aberdare
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Aberdare
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4066
Folio: 27
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Evans 36
Anne Evans 31
Ellen Williams 24
Catherine Jane Davies 7
John Evan Griffiths 17
Margaret Rees 27



1861 Wales Census about David Evans
Name: David Evans
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Llangadock, Carmarthenshire, Wales

Civil Parish or Township: Llandingat
County/Island: Carmarthenshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Llandovery
Sub-registration district: Llandingat
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4122
Folio: 76
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Isaac Jones 47
Ann Jones 40
Jacob Jones 21
Margaret Jones 18
Jane Jones 17
Morgan Jones 8
Eliza Jones 1
Ann Jones 3
David Evans 13

Maddie

Maddie Report 11 Dec 2012 13:02

bit of a long shot

Parish Records Collection marriage

Grooms Last Name:Evans

Grooms First Name:Thomas

Grooms Fathers First Name:Roderick

Grooms Fathers Last Name:Evans

Grooms Parish:

Grooms Age:Full

Brides Last Name:Rees

Brides First Name:Anne

Brides Fathers First Name:David

Brides Fathers Last Name:Rees

Brides Parish:

Brides Age:Full

County:Carmarthenshire

Place / Parish:Llangadog

Marriage Year:1845

Marriage Month:Jul

Marriage Day:18

Banns Year:

Banns Month:

Banns Day:

Page:40

Record source:Carmarthen marriages - Transcripts

Data provider:Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru

Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd

Margaret

Margaret Report 11 Dec 2012 13:03

Firstly AnnCardiff - apologies for the delay in replying but I had just typed a reply and the desktop computer froze and it has taken me this long to get functioing again ! Yes, this is the same family but two generations back. The other thread was for a William Evans and was resolved so I deleted it. I hope I did the right thing as this current thread is about completely different people.

Maddie - thank you. I am not sure if you have got them but it does look highly promising. Just in case I have made a note of the info

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Dec 2012 14:38

would have been best to leave it and continue with it, but what's done is done :-) :-)