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Mary Ascroft abt1827

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Unknown

Unknown Report 11 Dec 2012 20:26

Thanks so much for solving the life of Mary Ascroft what a special GGG parent she turned out to be with so many problems.
Wrongly recorded name of Ashcroft threw me in 1871 and 1851 and Mary spelt Marey
Will resarch all other information provided

Thank you
David

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 11 Dec 2012 18:05

Looks like Mary's parents were William Ascroft and Jane Fishwick, the later of the marriages I (and also Reggie) posted earlier.

One of Mary's siblings in census 1841 and 1851 as previously posted by Jan was Hester/Esther, aged 3 in 1841, 13 in 1851.

Lancashire BMDs have Esther's mother as [Jane] FISHWICK, not RIGBY.


Birth Indexes

Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Region Reference

ASHCROFT Esther FISHWICK 1837 Pemberton Wigan & Leigh Lancashire PEM/1/48 N/A

Also Ann Ascroft aged 10 from census 1851:

ASHCROFT Ann FISHWICK 1840 Pemberton Wigan & Leigh Lancashire PEM/2/245 N/A

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 11 Dec 2012 17:44

Another link between Mary Ascroft and Richard Eatock.

In census 1901 above, widowed Richard Eatock has grandson Peter Barnes born c1889 Ince living with him.

Peter appears to be the son of Hugh and Ellen Barnes in census 1891.


Address: 100, Scholefield Lane, Wigan County: Lancashire

BARNES, Hugh Head Married M 28 1863 Cotton Spinner Wigan, Lancashire
BARNES, Ellen Wife Married F 28 1863 Ince, Lancashire<<<<<<<<
BARNES, Peter Son Single M 2 1889 Wigan, Lancashire<<<<<<
BARNES, Mary E Daughter Single F 0 (2M) 1891 Wigan, Lancashire



Ellen appears likely to be Ellen Ascroft, daughter of Mary and sister to Alice

Marriages Mar 1887
>>>ASHCROFT Ellen Wigan 8c 53
>>>BARNES Hugh Wigan 8c 53
Harding James Wigan 8c 53
Peak Charlotte Wigan 8c 53

Lancs BMDS:

ASHCROFT Ellen BARNES Hugh 1887 Christ Church, Ince Wigan & Leigh Lancashire C19/4/162

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 11 Dec 2012 17:13

????

Deaths Mar 1899 Eatock Mary 67 Wigan 8c 48

Age is a little out, but she is consistently a few years younger than her actual age in censuses once she is married.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 11 Dec 2012 17:09

Looks like Mary died between 1891 and 1901

Census 1891

Address: 22, Can Row, Ince In Makerfield County: Lancashire

EATOCK, Richard Head Married M 60 1831 Collier Ince-In-Makerfield, Lancashire
EATOCK, Mary Wife Married F 60 1831 Ince-In-Makerfield, Lancashire<<<
EATOCK, Richard Grandson M 8 1883 Ince-In-Makerfield, Lancashire
EATOCK, John Boarder Single M 50 1841 Collier Ince-In-Makerfield, Lancashire


Census 1901:

Address: 22, Can Row Baron's Terrace, Ince In Makerfield County: Lancashire

EATOCK, Richard Head Widower M 70 1831 Retired Coal Hewer (Knocker Up) Ince, Lancashire
EATOCK, John Brother Single M 56 1845 Retired Coal Hewer Under Ground Ince, Lancashire
BARNES, Peter Grand Son Single M 12 1889 Wigan, Lancashire

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 11 Dec 2012 16:43

Did Mary finally marry?

EATOCK Richard
ASCROFT Mary
1872 Wigan, Register Office or Registrar Attended
Wigan & Leigh Lancashire ROW/32/191 N/A

Marriages Jun 1872
>>>Ascroft Mary Wigan 8c 119
Ashcroft Alice Wigan 8c 119
>>>Eatock Richard Wigan 8c 119
GASKELL James Wigan 8c 119


Census 1881

Note Ellen 'Eatock' is same age as Ellen Ascroft would be (see 1871 census Jan posted earlier). Mary might have been economical with her age so as not to appear older than her husband:

Address: 22, Can Row, Ince In Makerfield County: Lancashire

EATOCK, Richard Head Married M 50 1831 Coal Miner Ince, Lancashire
EATOCK, Mary Wife Married F 50 1831 Coal Miner Wife Pemberton, Lancashire<<<<<<<
EATOCK, Ellen Daughter Single F 18 1863 Mule Spinner Cotton Mill
Ince, Lancashire<<<<<<<<
EATOCK, John Lodger Single M 39 1842 Coal Miner Ince, Lancashire

Richard was still single in 1871, and it looks like John Eatock the lodger in 1881 was his younger brother.

Census 1871:

Address: Amberswood Common, Ince In Makerfield County: Lancashire

EATOCK, Elizabeth Head F 67 1804 Lancashire
EATOCK, Richard Son M 41 1830 Lancashire<<<<<
EATOCK, Richard Son M 35 1836 Lancashire
EATOCK, John Son M 29 1842 Lancashire<<<<<<
EATOCK, Samuel Son M 21 1850 Lancashire

The sons are all coal miners, born Ince in Makerfield, and the second 'Richard' is actually Nicholas on the census image.

Unknown

Unknown Report 11 Dec 2012 16:10

Really fantastic, cannot believe so much information and a picture will spend days studying it.. Cannot wait to show information to my Aunty Mary my last relative from previous generation who remembers Sam and Alice but did not know Mary.
First time ever used a message board
Thank you so much.

Reggie

Reggie Report 11 Dec 2012 15:44

Marriage: 22 Apr 1821 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
William Ascroft - (X), of Wigan Parish
Jane Rigby - (X), of Wigan Parish
Witness: James Boyd; Saml. Vizard
Married by Banns by: Edwd. Hill, Curate
Register: Marriages 1820 - 1824, Page 110, Entry 332
Source: LDS film 1885691

OR

Marriage: 1 Feb 1824 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
William Ascroft - (X), of Wigan Parish
Jane Fishwick - (X), of Wigan Parish
Witness: Samuel Hickox; Saml. Vizard
Married by Banns by: Edwd. Hill, Curate
Register: Marriages 1820 - 1824, Page 434, Entry 1307
Source: LDS film 1885691

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 11 Dec 2012 15:44

Second marriage doesn't mention whether he was a widower or not.

Marriage: 22 Apr 1821 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
William Ascroft - (X), of Wigan Parish
Jane Rigby - (X), of Wigan Parish
Witness: James Boyd; Saml. Vizard
Married by Banns by: Edwd. Hill, Curate
Register: Marriages 1820 - 1824, Page 110, Entry 332
Source: LDS film 1885691

Marriage: 1 Feb 1824 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
William Ascroft - (X), of Wigan Parish
Jane Fishwick - (X), of Wigan Parish
Witness: Samuel Hickox; Saml. Vizard
Married by Banns by: Edwd. Hill, Curate
Register: Marriages 1820 - 1824, Page 434, Entry 1307
Source: LDS film 1885691


William Ascroft seems a common name in Wigan, there was a marriage of a William Ascroft to Ellen Hodson in 1823, and William Ascroft to Ellen Pilkington in 1824, both at All Saints Wigan.

Reggie

Reggie Report 11 Dec 2012 15:40

Baptisms: 12 Aug 1826 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Mary Ascroft - 1 Daur. of William Ascroft & Jane
Born: 13 Jun
Abode: Orrell
Occupation: Miner
Baptised by: Edwd. Hill Curate
Register: Baptisms 1825 - 1827, Page 168, Entry 1337
Source: LDS Film 1885677


Baptisms: 2 Jan 1830 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Ascroft - 3 Daur. of William Ascroft & Jane
Born: 1 Nov 1829
Abode: Orrell
Occupation: Miner
Baptised by: J. Bromilow Curate
Register: Baptisms 1827 - 1830, Page 229, Entry 1826
Source: LDS Film 1885677

Baptisms: 7 Apr 1833 St John the Divine, Pemberton, Lancashire, England
Isabella Ascroft - 4th Daur of William Ascroft & Jane
Born: 14 Jan 1833
Abode: Pemberton
Occupation: Miner
Baptised by: J Paley
Register: Baptisms 1832 - 1860, Page 5, Entry 34
Source: LDS Film 1885635

Baptisms: 12 Sep 1835 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Esther Ascroft - 5 Daur. of William Ascroft & Jane
Born: 23 Jul
Abode: Orrell
Occupation: Miner
Baptised by: J. K. Glazebrook
Register: Baptisms 1833 - 1836, Page 527, Entry 1822
Source: LDS Film 1885678


Baptisms: 3 Jan 1841 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Ann Ascroft - 6th. Daur. of William Ascroft & Jane
Born: 30 Sep 1840
Abode: Pemberton
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: J. R. Birch
Register: Baptisms 1838 - 1842, Page 221, Entry 1761
Source: LDS Film 1885679

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 11 Dec 2012 15:39

Do the witnesses on the marriage cert hold any clues? Though I would think it highly likely you have found the right family.
Jan

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 11 Dec 2012 15:39

two possible marriages, don't know if it's the same groom or two different men:

groom's name: William Ascroft
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Jane Fishwick
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 01 Feb 1824
marriage place: Wigan, Lancaster Co., England
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M01355-2
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1469053

groom's name: William Ascroft
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Jane Rigby
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 22 Apr 1821
marriage place: Parish Of Wigan, Lancashire, England
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M00807-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1885691
reference number: p 110 cn 332

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 11 Dec 2012 15:38

Here they are in Ince 1871, which supports this being the same family as yours I think:

1871 England Census
Name: Mary Ashcroft
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Pemberton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Ince in Makerfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Ince in Makerfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Hindley

Mary Ashcroft 43
James Ashcroft 20
William Ashcroft 15
Ellen Ashcroft 8

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 11 Dec 2012 15:35

Pemberton is extremely close to Wigan.

name: Mary Ascroft
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 12 Aug 1826
baptism/christening place: WIGAN,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
birth date: 13 Jun 1826
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: William Ascroft
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Jane
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C00556-8
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 94032
reference number:

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 11 Dec 2012 15:33

Same family 1841:

1841 England Census

Name: Mary Ashcroft
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Wigan
Hundred: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire

Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Pemberton

William Ashcroft 35
Jame Ashcroft 35
Mary Ashcroft 10
Betty Ashcroft 14
Isabel Ashcroft 8
Hester Ashcroft 3
Ann Ashcroft 7

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 11 Dec 2012 15:28

You must have the right family as Mary is unmarried. This looks like her 1851:


1851 England Census
Name: Mary Ascroft
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Jane Ascroft
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Pemberton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Pemberton
Ecclesiastical parish: Pemberton
County/Island: Lancashire

Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Hindley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2h

Jane Ascroft 47
Mary Ascroft 24
Elizabeth Ascroft 21
Isaballa Ascroft 18
Esther Ascroft 13
Ann Ascroft 10
Edward Ascroft 3 Mo

Unknown

Unknown Report 11 Dec 2012 15:20

Alice Ascroft born BC 5/8/1853 in Ince about 1 mile from Wigan Lancs, mother was Mary Ascroft, no father, mark on BC.
Know lots about Alice at 18 married 19 old Samuel Heyes 2/9/1872 a stone mason / bricklayer and had many childred and a good life from a very difficult start.
Trying to find Mary my GGG parent.
Close match 1861 census Mary char woman head 34, James coal miner 10, Alice 7 and William 5 all born Ince apart from Mary born Pemberton opposite side of town 3 mile away.
Cannot match anythink else on Mary, James and William.
Hope anyone can help.
David