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Peter

Peter Report 29 Dec 2012 20:45

Thanks Chris - yes, quite a feat. Wonder if it made the local paper?! Although I imagine that wasn't really done back then.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Dec 2012 20:43

WAKEFIELD Ann 102 1844 Frodsham Halton Cheshire

(from below link)

http://cheshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Chris :)


Burial (Find My Past)
Forenames:Ann
Surname:Wakefield
Marital Status:
Burial Date:25 Jan 1844
Burial Year:1844
Age:102y
Sex:Female
Burial Place:Frodsham
Date of Death:
Father's Forename:
Father's Surname:
Mother's Forenames:
Mother's Surname:
Residence: Frodsham
Spouse's Forenames:
Spouse's Surname
City or Town:Frodsham
County:Cheshire
Record source:Diocese of Chester Bishop's Transcripts of Burials

Peter

Peter Report 29 Dec 2012 20:12

Hi Kucinta,

Yes it is difficult - I found the burial for Hannah's child also, but no birth?!

Odd.

Any other thoughts?

Peter

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 Dec 2012 19:15

Sorry, not having any joy.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 Dec 2012 19:07

Did Hannah have a child out of wedlock?


Burial:

Forenames: John
Surname: Wakefield
Marital Status:
Burial Date: 08 Jan 1806
Burial Year: 1806
Age:
Sex: Male
Burial Place: Frodsham
Date of Death:
Father's Forename:
Father's Surname:
Mother's Forenames: Hannah
Mother's Surname: Wakefield
Residence: Frodsham
Spouse's Forenames:
Spouse's Surname:
Parish:
City or Town: Frodsham
County: Cheshire
Record source: Diocese of Chester Bishop's Transcripts of Burials

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 Dec 2012 18:58


Possible marriage for Ann baptised 1795? Common forename though, if there were other Wakerfileds living in the area.

Groom's Forename: Peter
Groom's Surname: Swinton
Groom's Age:
Groom's Birth Place:
Groom's Status:
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Forename: Ann
Bride's Surname: Wakefield
Bride's Age:
Bride's Birth Place:
Bride's Status:
Bride's Father's Name:
Brides Mother's Name:
Date of Marriage: 16 Aug 1819
Year of Marriage: 1819
Place of Marriage: Frodsham
By Banns or Licence:
Groom's Residence: Frodsham
Bride's Residence: Frodsham
Notes:
Parish:
City or Town: Frodsham
County: Cheshire
Record source: Diocese of Chester Bishop's Transcripts of Marriages

Peter

Peter Report 29 Dec 2012 14:33

Hi and thank you for all of this help! Not sure where to start!

Now, Ann/Nancy Roberts WAKEFIELD seems to be the same and appears in the census - she died in 1842 aged an impressive 102 years old. How accurate this, I don't know as I have no seen this 1753 baptism before.

Also, George Wakefield died in 1829 aged 80, so the 1753 baptism for him could be correct but slightly out. I don't know ... we are at that funny stage in family history.

In short, I don't know the answer but I am grateful you are helping me out.

With this, I do wonder about John and Hannah being siblings, which is why I posted the request to begin with, to asert from the census whether Mary was a widow of John or another sibling.

You see, George senior and Ann/Nancy had the following children, who I can find no marriage or death for (all baptised in Frodsham, Cheshire):

Ellen, bap 1779
Elizabeth, bap 1781
Hannah, bap 1781
Mary, bap 1783
Ann, bap 1795

There another four, including my ancestor James, but I can account for their lives.

It would be good to find more about these girls also - can you help?

Cheers,

Peter

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 Dec 2012 04:37

Not having any joy finding Hannah in the census :-(

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 Dec 2012 04:32

This might be reaching a bit for George, though it is less than 10 miles from Frodsham.

name: Geo. Wakefield
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 01 Jan 1753
baptism/christening place: WHITEGATE,CHESHIRE,ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Wakefield
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Hannah
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: P00981-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 0823615 IT 8

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 Dec 2012 04:28

Baptism for Ann? 'Nancy' was aged about 90 in 1841.

name: Ann Roberts
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 23 Jan 1753
baptism/christening place: FRODSHAM,CHESHIRE,ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Thomas Roberts
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Elizabeth
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: P00973-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 0823624 IT 4

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 Dec 2012 04:26

Marriage of George and Ann (aka Nancy?)

name: George Wakefield
event: Marriage
event date: 10 Oct 1774
event place: , Frodsham, Cheshire, England
gender: Male
age:
marital status:
father:
mother:
spouse: Ann Roberts
spouse's marital status:
spouse's father:
spouse's mother:
film number: 2104549
digital folder number: 004018977
image number: 00030

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 Dec 2012 04:22

Also wondering whether John and Hannah are brother and sister. Nancy is a pet form of Ann, and according to FamilySearch George and Ann have several children born Frodsham - I think Nancy and Ann might be one and the same.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 Dec 2012 03:58

I'm wondering whether 'Sutton' is Sutton Weaver,a village which lies between Runcorn and Frodsham.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 Dec 2012 03:58

I'm wondering whether 'Sutton' is Sutton Weaver,a village which lies between Runcorn and Frodsham.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 Dec 2012 03:33

John's baptism? Mother Nancy was living with him in census 1841.

Forenames: John
Surname: Wakefield
Sex: Male
Christening Year: 1776
Christening Date: 24 Nov 1776
Date of Birth:
Age:
Location: Frodsham
Father's Forenames: George
Father's Surname: Wakefield
Mother's Forename: Nancey
Mother's Surname:
Parish:
City or Town: Frodsham
County: Cheshire
Record source: Diocese of Chester Bishop's Transcripts of Baptisms

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 Dec 2012 03:32

Possible marriage for John Wakefield and Mary?

Forenames: John
Surname: Wakefield
Marriage Date: 12 Feb 1798
Marriage Year: 1798
Age:
Record Group: Part 1 - 1
Ref ID: item 4 p 707
Spouse's Forenames: Mary
Spouse's Surname: Milner
Spouse's Age:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Parish: All Saints
City / Town: Runcorn
County: Cheshire
Record source: Diocese of Chester parish registers of Marriages c1538-1910


Several children born to John and Mary Wakefield at Frodsham from 1801 onwards.
Baptisms can be found on :

https://www.familysearch.org

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 Dec 2012 03:26

Mary was a widow in 1851:

Address: Netherton, Frodsham Lordship County: Cheshire

WAKEFIELD, Mary Head Widow F 76 1775 Pauper Sutton, Cheshire
SMITH, James Lodger Unmarried M 22 1829 General Labourer
Helsby, Cheshire


Possibly Mary with age rounded down to nearest 5 yrs in 1841?

Address: Marsh Green, Frodsham County: Cheshire

WAKEFIELD, John M 65 1776 Cheshire
WAKEFIELD, Mary F 60 1781 Cheshire<<<<
WAKEFIELD, Mary F 20 1821 Cheshire
WAKEFIELD, John M 14 1827 Cheshire
WAKEFIELD, Nancy F 90 1751 Cheshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 29 Dec 2012 02:40

Hannah Wakefield
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 05 May 1781 FRODSHAM,?CHESHIRE,?ENGLAND
parents: George Wakefield,? Ann


name: Hannah Wakefield
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 05 May 1781
baptism/christening place: FRODSHAM,CHESHIRE,ENGLAND
father's name: George Wakefield
mother's name: Ann
indexing project (batch) number: P00973-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 0823624 IT 4

Hannah Wakefield
England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900
christening: 14 Jan 1781 Astbury,? Cheshire,? England
residence: 14 Jan 1781 ,? Astbury,? Cheshire,? England
parents: Thomas Wakefield,? Sarah Wakefield


name: Hannah Wakefield
event: Christening
event date: 14 Jan 1781
event place: Astbury, Cheshire, England
gender: Female
father: Thomas Wakefield
mother: Sarah Wakefield
digital folder number: 4011827

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 29 Dec 2012 02:38

Mary Wakefield
England and Wales Census, 1851
birth: Sutton,? Cheshire
census: 1851 England


name: Mary Wakefield
age: 76
gender: F
birthplace: Sutton, Cheshire
relationship to head of household: Head
record type: Household

Peter

Peter Report 29 Dec 2012 01:50

Also, this lady please?

Hannah Wakefield

England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900

burial: 10 May 1859 Frodsham,? Cheshire,? England
residence: 10 May 1859 ,? Frodsham,? Cheshire,? England


name: Hannah Wakefield
event: Burial
event date: 10 May 1859
event place: Frodsham, Cheshire, England
gender: Female
age: 79y
digital folder number: 4011849