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John Longstaff or Langstaff

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Mary Report 22 Jan 2013 09:27

There are other Longstaff family living in Eston ,tried to find a connection as it looks as though there could be one.
As yet haven't found it and choosing the correct birth record for Tom looks a difficult one.



MarieCeleste Report 21 Jan 2013 22:53

Iris, please don't reply by private message. Use the "Add Your Reply" box just below as previously requested.

Please answer (below) the question I asked above about how you connected Tom to the people you have in your as his parents and grandparents.

We really would like to help you but you've got to work with us.


MarieCeleste Report 20 Jan 2013 13:57

Iris, if it doesn't give any father's name then that strongly indicates that he was illegitimate.

How have you worked back from him to the people you have in your tree that you have assumed to be his family?


artist Report 20 Jan 2013 13:53

IT doesnt give toms fathers name at all unfortunately

Regards iris


MarieCeleste Report 18 Jan 2013 13:47

That' s my suspicion Mary. That' s why it's so important Iris confirms the details from the marriage certificate. It would be such a shame if she has the wrong branch on her tree.

Hopefully we can help clear the confusion.


Mary Report 18 Jan 2013 13:11

I think you have the 2 Thomas longstaff mixed up.
The Thomas born to Ellen nee knox and John a coal miner.
1881 Wingate D21 >7 Seymour street.
Ellen a widow
John henry 11
Thomas 7
George 4

1881 Wingate D21 > 94
Thomas Knox
Martha knox parents of Ellen Knox

1891 Hutton Henry Durham D26 >12
Thomas longsteff 17 nephew
Head of House William harrison 1853
Martha 1856
Martha Knox 1821.

1891 HuttonHhenry D26 > 56
Mary Ann Peat 1873 parents William and Mary.

Marriage Easington 1896 10a 625
Mary Ann Peate to Thomas Longstaff.

1861 East Murton DurhamD5 >9
Thomas knox 51
Martha 42
Ellen 1847 married John Longstaff
Martha 1856 married William harrison in 1872.

Thomas Longstaff coal miner 1901 Wingate with Mary Ann
1911 Thomas Longstaff
Mary Ann born Wheatley Hill Durham.

Hope you can follow this and see it is almost certain you are following the wrong Thomas.

Regards Maryb.


MarieCeleste Report 17 Jan 2013 23:26

Further pm:

"yes I have his marriage certificate 1894 he was a labourer and lived at holden st grangetown parish of Eston Registration district was Middlesborough.His brothers were John Henry 1870 Tom 1874 George1877. His Father was John and Mother Ellen Knox they were married in Hartlepool in 1868 "

Iris - what does it actually say on the certificate itself about his father, that's all I want to know - the facts from the certificate.

Just below is a box headed "Add your reply", just type your reply in there and press "submit" :-)


MarieCeleste Report 17 Jan 2013 19:12

pm from Iris in answer to my query about who she was working back from

"I was working back from my grandfather Tom Langstaff 1874 and grandmother Rose Ann Baxtrem 1877 Married Dec 24 1894 in Eston
yorkshire heworked in Dormanlong steel works no father of tom recorded "

Iris - when you say "no father of Tom recorded" do you mean on a certificate, or someplace else?

Do you have the marriage certificate for Tom and Rose Ann? What does it say for his father on there? Was Tom named as Tom or Thomas?


artist Report 17 Jan 2013 12:34

I@have just received a copy of john longstaff and elizabeth mackie marriage certificate a bit confusing they were married in sunderland on 13th August 1848 john was stated at full age and Elizabethmas a minor. he was a Joiner
His father was quoted as William Longstaff a shipwright hers was a Mariner deceased
I dont know what the full age was to get marriedmin1848 I think i have got lost here somehow.



artist Report 15 Jan 2013 14:05

Thank you for all your help I have been on Ancestry and found some info and have discovered they were married in Sunderland John and Mary Mackie evidently and they had it on the sight so I am now waiting for copy MarriageCertificate to arrive to give info of Parents will keep you informed on the results Iget. As yu said no way could Mary Myers be his mother she would only be 11 years old



safc Report 5 Jan 2013 19:54

name: John Newrick Longstaff
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 15 Oct 1826
baptism/christening place: St. Andrew's, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
birth date:
death date:
name note:
father's name: John Longstaff
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Elizabeth Longstaff
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C02433-6
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1564924
reference number: item 2 p 85


MarieCeleste Report 5 Jan 2013 19:45

Iris - who are you working back from?


safc Report 5 Jan 2013 19:30

County Durham
Place Sedgefield
Church St Edmund
RegisterNumber 248
MarriageDate 16 May 1835
GroomForename John
GroomSurname LONGSTAFF
GroomParish Sedgefield
BrideForename Mary
BrideSurname MYERS
BrideParish Sedgefield
WitnessOneForename Thomas
WitnessOneSurname MYERS
WitnessTwoForename Elizabeth Jane
WitnessTwoSurname SEWELL
Notes Additional witnesses George APPLEGARTH, Mary BLACKETT
FileNumber 16968


Mary Report 5 Jan 2013 15:39

Mary Myers born 1815 couldn't be John 's mum if he was born 1826!!



artist Report 5 Jan 2013 15:32

Thank you all for your help information is as follows

John Longstaff 1809-1877 married Mary Myers
John Longstaff 1826-1877 married Elizabeth WIlson
3children John 1846 william 1849 elizabeth 1855
Married 1846 free durham northern free bmd
tOm is my grandfsther
Ithink this is correct


Mary Report 5 Jan 2013 11:13

John Longstaff 1809 - 1877 married Mary Myers born 1815
They had John Longstaff 1846 - 1877 married in 1868 to Eleanor(Ellen) knox.
had Thomas (Tom) 1874 married Rose Annie Baxtrem.

Iris has Tom 1874,I think she has just got John's date of birth mixed up.

Info off trees on ancestry so please double check.



MarieCeleste Report 5 Jan 2013 09:55

So it sounds like the 1851 I posted and deleted may have been the right one!

Seems like things have got in a bit of a muddle but until Iris comes back and says how she got to these people we can't really help sort it out.


Mary Report 5 Jan 2013 09:33

I also have looked at the tree on Ancestry.1851 she has the above 1851 census whenJohn is a labourer.

The following census she has
1861 he is a Ships Joiner D9>10Bishop Wearmouth.
also with Elizabeth32 and Elizabeth 6

1871 Ships Joiner Monkwearmouth D6>68
Also with wife Elizabeth and daughter Elizabeth age 6 born 1855.just above Johns entry on original view is a Ann langstaff widow age about 70? and Robert T born 1840
I think she has got the wrong 1851 census.

1851 D4 >36.
John LONGSTAFF a Ships Joiner
Mary Jane age one month.

A tree on Ancestry has the above John(Ships Joiner) marrying Elizabeth Mackie in 1848.

So we have two John and Elizabeth Longstaffs with daughters Elizabeth born 1855,I think John the ship joiner was born in Sunderland durham.


Edit just been checking again this is the one next door to John in 1871

1841 Monkwearmouth D2 >9
Ann Longsliff 33 widow (Longstaff)
Barbara 11
John 9
Robert 1


MarieCeleste Report 4 Jan 2013 21:41

Have come across Iris' tree on Ancestry and the 1851 that GB posted is the one she has attached: (I'll delete mine)

Parents listed as John Langstaff 1809 - 1877 and Mary Myers 1815 - . Married 1835 in Sedgefield.


safc Report 4 Jan 2013 21:36

groom's name: John Nurrick Langstaff
groom's birth date: 1826
groom's birthplace:
groom's age: 20
bride's name: Elizabeth Wilson
bride's birth date: 1828
bride's birthplace:
bride's age: 18
marriage date: 08 Nov 1846
marriage place: Lanchester, Durham, England
groom's father's name: John Langstaff
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: John Wilson
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: I00470-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1885565
reference number: 97