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Battenburg
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6 Jan 2013 22:31 |
Oh thank you It just shows how important it is to check the images
I once found a child 40 years older than his father. No wonder we cant find people
I had Ancestry for 4 years but cant justify the price since I have my main family even paying for the 1911 census before it became available on subscription
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Christina(Lancashire)
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6 Jan 2013 22:25 |
Yes, looks more like a T on the image. Nothing like the J in Joseph or Elizabeth J.
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6 Jan 2013 22:21 |
Can you look at the image for 1891 and look at William J Armstrong
Could it be a T for middle initial
Found a birth for William Thomas Armstrong in 1885 Newcastle I know sometimes middle names are added at baptism
If this was a direct family I would have bought certs but it isnt On the 1911 census
I can find 3 William Joseph Armstrong 1885 Newcastle upon Tyne living Tynemouth William Thomas Armstrong 1885 N Upon T Living Medway Kent
William Armstrong 1885 N Upon T living Auckland
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6 Jan 2013 22:06 |
Thank you Christina I had just checked 1901censusonline where you can check the other census and she is transcribed as Maria
I cant look at the details so thank you for that
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Christina(Lancashire)
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6 Jan 2013 22:03 |
1891 England Census Name: Joseph Armstrong Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Maud Armstrong Gender: Male Where born: West Arendale, Northumberland, England Civil parish: Sunderland Bridge Ecclesiastical parish: Croxdale County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:......33 Rogersons Terrace
Registration district: Durham Sub-registration district: St Oswald ED, institution, or vessel: 39 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4100 Folio: 146 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Armstrong 33.....Coal Miner Maud Armstrong 32.....Maria on image.....Byers Green, Durham. Elizabeth J Armstrong 10.......Byers Green Margaret Armstrong 8......Byers Green William J Armstrong 6......Newcastle Upon Tyne John A Armstrong 2......Croxdale, Durham
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Battenburg
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6 Jan 2013 21:48 |
Thank you Flip for that Im also trying to work out this problem
1881 census Joseph S Armstrong 1857 West Allendale occ coal miner Maria wife 1859 Byers Green Elizabeth J Armstrong no age so baby Byers Green
Can you find the family in 1891
In 1897 a Maria Armstrong age 40 died sept qt Auckland district and Joseph Armstrong ( no middle name) married Sarah Brown 1897 dec qt Auckland
1901 Joseph S Armstrong 44 coal miner Sarah Armstrong 37 Haswell Durham Margaret Armstrong 18 Byers Green William Armstrong 16 Newcastle John A Armstrong 12 Croadale? Durham Harry Brown step son 16 New Shildon John Brown 14 New Shildon Albert Brown 11 Byers Green William Brown 7 Byers Green
1911 Joseph S Armstrong Sarah Armstrong married 13 years 3 children John Brown Albert Brown William Brown Joseph signed the form as Joseph Stobart Armstrong
Need to find Joseph Maria and Elizabeth J Armstrong in 1891
Any help please or I will have to go to the library again They must think Im a permanent fixture lol
On the 1911 census Joseph S Armstrong coal miner Sarah Armstrong
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5 Jan 2013 10:44 |
If you are trying to work backwards, and K has the right family this is 1851
Matthew Armstrong Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Son Father's Name: Matthew Armstrong Mother's Name: Elizebeth Armstrong Gender: M (Male) Where born: Allendale, Northumberland, England Civil parish: Allendale and West Allen High County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Hexham Sub-registration district: Allendale ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 70 Piece: 2415 Folio: 223 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age Matthew Armstrong 37 Elizebeth Armstrong 34 Margrat Armstrong 14 George Armstrong 12 Matthew Armstrong 10 John Armstrong 6 Thomas Armstrong 2 Mary Armstrong 7 Mo And 1841
Matthew Armstrong Age: 3 Mo Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Gender: Male Where born: Northumberland, England Civil parish: Allendale Hundred: Tindale (South or Hexham Division) County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Hexham Sub-registration district: Allendale Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 837 Book: 34 Folio: 10 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Matthew Armstrong 25 Elizabeth Armstrong 25 Margret Armstrong 5 George Armstrong 3 Matthew Armstrong 3 Mo Ancestry is suggesting this for Matthew snr, which could be possible given their oldest daughters name:
Matthew Armstrong Gender: Male Christening Date: 11 Apr 1813 Christening Place: Warden, Northumberland, England Father's Name: Matthew Armstrong Mother's Name: Margaret
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5 Jan 2013 07:13 |
Hi Ian
Yes and the age and birth place of this Polly/ Mary is the same as in 1881
Kay
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Battenburg
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5 Jan 2013 07:13 |
Thank you K The one with Frances was the mistake I made at the library and Yes Polly is another name for Mary
Can you find the family in 1861 please
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IanPJS
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5 Jan 2013 07:11 |
Hi K,
I had an aunt Mary who was always referred to as 'Polly'
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5 Jan 2013 07:08 |
1871? He appears to be the first one I posted as the son of Frances is still at home in 1871
The name on the image could well be a shortened Armstrong and he is a cartman - Could Polly be a nickname?
Name: Matthew Armstry Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Polly Armstry Gender: Male Where born: Annandale, Westmorland, England Civil parish: Cullercoates Ecclesiastical parish: Cullercoates Town: Cullercoates County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Registration district: Tynemouth Sub-registration district: Tynemouth ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Household schedule number: 208 Piece: 5122 Folio: 23 Page Number: 39 Household Members: Name Age Matthew Armstry 30 Polly Armstry 35 b Annandale, Westmorland,
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5 Jan 2013 07:04 |
There is also this one - again a lead miner
1861
Name: Matthew Armstrong Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Frances Armstrong Gender: Male Where born: Allendale, Northumberland, England Civil parish: Allendale Ecclesiastical parish: Nine Banks County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Hexham Sub-registration district: Allendale ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3862 Folio: 81 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Frances Armstrong 46 Thomas Armstrong 22 Matthew Armstrong 19 Elizabeth Armstrong 14 Ann Armstrong 12 Hannah Armstrong 9 Frances Armstrong 7 Leah Armstrong 4
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5 Jan 2013 07:02 |
1861? Working as a lead miner and all family born Allendale
Name: Matthew Armstrong Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relation: Son Father's Name: Matthew Armstrong Mother's Name: Elizabeth Armstrong Gender: Male Where born: Allendale, Northumberland, England Civil parish: Allendale Ecclesiastical parish: Nine Banks County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Hexham Sub-registration district: Allendale ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 60 Piece: 3862 Folio: 71 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Matthew Armstrong 47 Elizabeth Armstrong 45 Margaret Armstrong 25 George Armstrong 23 Matthew Armstrong 21 John Armstrong 16 Mary Armstrong 10 William Armstrong 8 Joseph L Armstrong 5
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5 Jan 2013 06:08 |
I went to the library today to check out a census but I dont think its the correct one
Looking for Matthew Armstrong born c1840 Allendale Northumberland He married Mary Barrow born c1836 Allendale in 1869 He is a cartman in 1881 living in Tynemouth
Also can you find him in 1861 hopefully living with his parents. Sorry I dont know their names
Thank you
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