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Birth Look-ups Henry Augustus SMITH

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Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Jan 2013 13:42

tree on ancestry has a son

Henry Francis Smith
Birth 19 Mar 1861 in St Faith
Death

baptised

Christening
Christ Church Greyfriars Newgate

1871
Name: Henry F Smith
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Grandchild
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St John The Evangelist
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: St John Westminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 188
Piece: 121
Folio: 64
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Fish 80
Emily Kobler 16
Henry F Smith 10

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 16 Jan 2013 13:41

Here is his son:

1871 England Census
Name: Henry F Smith
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Grandchild
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St John The Evangelist
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: St John Westminster

Elizabeth Fish 80
Emily Kobler 16
Henry F Smith 10

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 16 Jan 2013 13:41

An Ancestry tree has Henry & Sarah, but no info other than 1861 census. He was a mantle maker 1861, a very distinctive occupation, so if he kept this he would be reasonably easy to find.
I can't spot his son 1871 either. Maybe they emigrated!
Jan

Stuart

Stuart Report 16 Jan 2013 13:38

?? The marriage to go with the 1861 census
Civil Registration event: Marriage

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Name: SMITH, Henry Augustus
Registration district: Westminster
County: London
Year of registration: 1859
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 1A
Page no: 522
MarriageFinder: Henry Augustus Smith married one of the following people:

FISH, Sarah Elizabeth <<<<<
JOSLING, Esther

Stuart

Stuart Report 16 Jan 2013 13:36

This looks like the married 53 years Augustus. Father named as Alfred Thomas a Tailor, so not yours. He is an Upholsterer as per 1911 census.

Civil Registration event: Marriage

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Name: SMITH, Henry Augustus
Registration district: St. Giles
County: London
Year of registration: 1858
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 1B
Page no: 509
MarriageFinder: Henry Augustus Smith married one of the following people:

NICHOLLS, Harriett <<<<<<<<<<<
SOMERVILLE, Jessie
WILSON, John

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 Jan 2013 13:35

This marriage matches the 1881 census so not your man

Name: Henry Augustus Smith
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Harriett Nicholls
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 27 Apr 1858
Parish: Bloomsbury St George
Borough: Camden
Father Name: Alfred Thomas Smith
Spouse Father Name: James Nicholls
Register Type: Parish Register

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 Jan 2013 13:32

1881 this might match the 1911 census but no idea if right man

Name: Henry A. Smith
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Holborn, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Newington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 6 Draper St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Cabinet Maker Upholsterer Employing 4 Men

Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Mary Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 553
Folio: 33
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
Henry A. Smith 46
Harriet Smith 46
Henry Smith 16
Mary Smith 12
Thomas Smith 10
Alfred Smith 8
George Smith 6
Albert E. Smith

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 16 Jan 2013 13:30


1861 England Census

Name: Henry Augustus Smith
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Elizabeth Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England

Civil parish: St Faith
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: London City
Sub-registration district: London City North West

Henry Augustus Smith 23
Sarah Elizabeth Smith 19
Henry Francis Smith 3 Months
Lucy Fish 58


Stuart

Stuart Report 16 Jan 2013 13:20

1851 for reference
1851 census transcription details for: 29, Caroline Street, Lambeth

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1572
Folio: 396
Page: 27
Reg. District: Lambeth
Sub District: Lambeth Church
Parish: Lambeth
Enum. District: 18
Ecclesiastical District: St Mary Lambeth
City/Municipal Borough: Lambeth
Address: 29, Caroline Street, Lambeth
County: Surrey
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
SMITH, Henry Augustus Head Married M 40 1811 House Painter (Journeyman)Lambeth, Surrey
SMITH, Maria Wife Married F 42 1809 Newington, Surrey
SMITH, Henry Augustus Son M 13 1838 Has Just Left School Lambeth, Surrey
SMITH, Maria Ebeabeth Daughter F 11 1840 Scholar Lambeth, Surrey
SMITH, Edward George Son M 6 1845 ScholarLambeth, Surrey
SMITH, Robert William Son M 3 1848 Lambeth, Surrey

Unknown

Unknown Report 16 Jan 2013 13:16

I'm trying to find the parents and siblings of my g-g-grandfather Henry Augustus SMITH, his place of birth and when he came to South Australia. All I know is that he married Mary AMBER on 7 June 1854 at Magill, Woodforde, SA. His age on his marriage certificate was 19, his father wasn't named and his occupation was listed as either sawyer or lawyer. I've tried to make a connection between him and the witnesses at his wedding, John and Susan Skinner, without success. He died on 16 September 1907 at Sydenham, SA aged 72 years. Some online trees say he was born in Somerset but I've found no evidence of this, and he was also known as James Augustus Long which I know nothing about. It’s also noted that he came to SA on the ship "Hydaspes" in 1851, but that Henry is from another family.

I’ve searched for all births of any Henry Augustus SMITHs in England in the timeframe 1830-1840 (just in case there were errors in his ages) in the hope that I could follow them on the Censuses and rule them out or otherwise. I already have:
- HAS born 24 March 1835, Holborn, London, Middlesex, parents Alfred SMITH and Mary Ann HUSSEY
- Henry Augustus SMITH baptised 1 October 1837, Lambeth, Surrey, parents Henry Augustus SMITH and Maria BARR
- HAS born 1840, Tetbury, Gloucestershire
- HAS born 1840, Guildford, Surrey.
I’ve ruled out the first one born in Holborn, and after looking through the information posted below by forum members I think I can also rule out the Lambeth Henry. The last two are too young.

Is anyone please able to find any other births anywhere that I may have missed, or make suggestions on where to go next? Thank you.