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Grandfathers side? Little help please :-)

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gemgems1094

gemgems1094 Report 22 Jan 2013 08:59

Okay, thanks for this :)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 22 Jan 2013 08:15

(1911 says he is a Boarder, would say yes, work related, as was the case with many men, Herbert below with family)

1881
HART, Alfred Head Married M 31 1850 Plumber
Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire
HART, Sarah E Wife Married F 32 1849
Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire
HART, Fred Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar
Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire
HART, Herbert H Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar
Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire
MALE, Charles W Apprentice Single M 19 1862 Plumbers Apprentice
Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire
ASPLIN, Mary Ann Servant Single F 14 1867 General Serv
Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire
Piece: 1692
Folio: 62
Page: 2
Registration District: Whittlesey
Civil Parish: St Mary and St Andrew Whittlesey
Municipal Borough:
Address: Alms House Street, St Mary And St Andrew Whittlesey
County: Cambridgeshire

1891
HART, Alfred Head Married M 41 1850 Plumber & Glazier & Boot & Shoe Maker
Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire
HART, Sarah E Wife Married F 42 1849
Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire
HART, Fred Son Single M 19 1872 Plumber & Glazier
Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire
HART, Herbert H Son Single M 15 1876 Cabinet Makers Apprentice
Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire
HART, Jessie A Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar
Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire
HART, Alfred Son M 4 1887 Scholar
Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire
MALE, Charles Father In Law Widower M 70 1821 Living On His Own Means
Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire
ANKER, Ruth Servant Single F 15 1876 General Servant
Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, North Side
Piece: 1302
Folio: 60
Page: 19
Registration District: Whittlesey
Civil Parish: Whittlesey
Municipal Borough:
Address: Almshouse Street, Whittlesey
County: Cambridgeshire

Chris :)

(Deaths below, probably relating, same area as Charles H.)

Name: HART, Eva
Registration district: [?] St. Albans
County: Hertfordshire
Year of registration: 1954
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death:83
Volume no: 4B
Page no: 245

Name: HART, Herbert H
Registration district: [?] St. Albans
County: Hertfordshire
Year of registration: 1942
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death:67
Volume no: 3A
Page no: 1033


(not sure how this links with Alfred in opening post yet?, as advised earlier, you need that Marriage Cert., to work from)


Marriages Sep 1916 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------
Bailey Laura M Hart Grimsby 7a 1293
Hart Alfred Bailey Grimsby 7a 1293

gemgems1094

gemgems1094 Report 22 Jan 2013 00:33

Marie thanks for the response, 1st one looks good I don't quite understand the second one, does that one mean he moved away for work?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Jan 2013 23:13

Looks like he may have been working away from home on the night of the 1911 census (name mistranscribed on FMP):

LANCASTER, William Head Married M 57 1854 Fitters Labourer Kempston Beds
LANCASTER, Edira Wife Married 37 years F 56 1855 Biddenham Beds
LANCASTER, Gertrude Daughter Single F 24 1887 Domestic Beds Kempston
LANCASTER, Herbert James Son Single M 21 1890 Iron Turner Beds Kempston
LANCASTER, Charles Son M 13 1898 School Beds Kempston
LANCASTER, Maud Daughter F 9 1902 School Beds Kempston
HARTBO, Herbert Henry Boarder Married M 35 1876 Cabinet Maker Cambs Whittlesea

RG number: RG14 Piece: 8875
Reference: RG14PN8875 RG78PN467 RD174 SD5 ED10 SN120
Registration District: Bedford
Sub District: Bedford and Cardington
Enumeration District: 10
Parish: Bedford

Address: 14 Cromwell Road Queen Park Bedford County: Bedfordshire

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Jan 2013 23:06

Just posting the 1901 for Herbert's details:

HART, Herbert H Head Married M 25 1876 Joiner & Cabinet Maker Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire
HART, Eva Wife Married F 29 1872 Knossington, Leicestershire
HART, Edward Son M 2 1899 Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire
LAND, Hannah Servant Single F 16 1885 General Servant Domestic Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire

Piece: 1552 Folio: 70 Page: 7
Registration District: Whittlesey
Civil Parish: Whittlesey Urban (Isle of Ely)

Address: High Causeway, Whittlesey Urban (Isle Of Ely), Wittlesey
County: Cambridgeshire

gemgems1094

gemgems1094 Report 21 Jan 2013 22:41

Please anyone?? :-\

gemgems1094

gemgems1094 Report 21 Jan 2013 22:12

Hi, I'm trying to find a missing piece in the puzzle at the moment...

1911
HART, Eva Head Married16 years F 39 1872 Knossington Leicester Skill
HART, Herbert Bilson Son M 3 1908 Whittlesea Cambs
HART, Edward Son M 12 1899 School Whittlesea Cambs
HART, Charles Henry Son M 14 1897 School Whittlesea Cambs
RG number: RG14
Piece: 9275
Reference: RG14PN9275 RG78PN498 RD186 SD1 ED4 SN208
Registration District: Whittlesey
Sub District: Whittlesey
Enumeration District: 4
Parish: Whittesley Urban
Address: 8 Highcauseway Whittlesey Peterborough
County: Cambridgeshire


Marriages Sep 1895 (>99%)
---------------------------------------------------------
Bilson Eva Whittlesey 3b 1137
Hart Herbert Henry Whittlesey 3b 1137

Where has the father gone to? As you can see Eva was married to Herbert, but he's not anywhere to be found in the death records. He was born 1875.

Little help I'm struggling :-(

gemgems1094

gemgems1094 Report 20 Jan 2013 17:39

Okay thanks Kath, how do i find out about his siblings/parents x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 20 Jan 2013 15:43

I have had a look and I can't find any children for the couple.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 20 Jan 2013 15:39

If you don't have a subscription to Ancestry or Findmypast then the best place to look is FreeBMD. Just put in the father's surname and the mother's maiden name and check from the date of the marriage for about 20 years afterwards to see if there are any births of children in the area where they lived.

The only way of being certain that the children all belong to "your" couple is to buy the birth certificates for the children.

Kath. x

gemgems1094

gemgems1094 Report 20 Jan 2013 15:31

Yeah, so i have Charles Henry Hart born 1896 died 1983 i found he married Ethel G Stimson in 1922 in St Albans.
How do I find out their children?

:-)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 20 Jan 2013 14:56

(1907 Birth, doesn't match one given on his Death)

Chris :)

gemgems1094

gemgems1094 Report 20 Jan 2013 14:51

Thats possible too, I did also find a Charles Hart for 1907 which could match, such a common name its a hard one

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 20 Jan 2013 14:44


Death
Name: HART, Charles Henry
Registration district: [?] St. Albans
County: Hertfordshire
Year of registration: 1983
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Date of Birth:14 June 1896
Volume no: 10
Page no: 0506

Chris :)


Births Sep 1896 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------------
Hart Charles Henry Whittlesey 3b 575

(possible?)

1901
JONES, Henry Head Married M 50 1851 Pork Butcher
Bicester, Oxfordshire
JONES, Caroline Wife Married F 54 1847
Aldwinkle, Northamptonshire
HART, Charles Henry Grand Son M 4 1897
Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire
ANKER, Eliza Servant Single F 17 1884 General Servant Domestic
Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire
Piece: 1552
Folio: 70
Page: 7
Registration District: Whittlesey
Civil Parish: Whittlesey Urban (Isle of Ely)
Municipal Borough:
Address: High Causeway, Whittlesey Urban (Isle Of Ely), Wittlesey
County: Cambridgeshire

1911
HART, Eva Head Married16 years F 39 1872 Knossington Leicester Skill
HART, Herbert Bilson Son M 3 1908 Whittlesea Cambs
HART, Edward Son M 12 1899 School Whittlesea Cambs
HART, Charles Henry Son M 14 1897 School Whittlesea Cambs
RG number: RG14
Piece: 9275
Reference: RG14PN9275 RG78PN498 RD186 SD1 ED4 SN208
Registration District: Whittlesey
Sub District: Whittlesey
Enumeration District: 4
Parish: Whittesley Urban
Address: 8 Highcauseway Whittlesey Peterborough
County: Cambridgeshire


Marriages Sep 1895 (>99%)
---------------------------------------------------------
Bilson Eva Whittlesey 3b 1137
Hart Herbert Henry Whittlesey 3b 1137

gemgems1094

gemgems1094 Report 20 Jan 2013 14:39

Chris that looks like him thank you very much! :)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 20 Jan 2013 14:35

Title: Obituary Charles Hart : Collected mechanical and fairground organs Died 3 July 1983
Source: Herts Advertiser page 19
Publication date: 30/03/1984
Subjects: Obituaries
Places: St Albans
Personal names: Charles Hart

(from below link)

https://www.hertsdirect.org/ufs/ufsmain?formid=HALS_INDEXES

Chris :)

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Jan 2013 14:26

You have started a new thead about Charles Hart.

Info may get duplicated

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Jan 2013 14:24

Not necessarily.

1911 for instance has James as head with a new wife

gemgems1094

gemgems1094 Report 20 Jan 2013 13:30

Could anyone help me with Alfred Hart?
Also we would like to know about Charles Hart born around 1900 we know he lived in St. Albans and he set up the St. Albans organ museum. We know he's a relation but not quite sure how. Thanks :-)

gemgems1094

gemgems1094 Report 20 Jan 2013 13:04

Kath, what does it mean by head and wife? Does that mean head and wife are the parents? x