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I have also tried to look for Gordons wife, but she wasnt buried in the same place by the looks of things. she is not on the Becket Glaves website.

Could there be a possibility that they married in Canada? Even though they met in England. There might of been a reason why they couldn't marry in this country. They had Gordon quite soon after James arrived in Quebec. arrived 1929 and Gordon born 1931.




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Yes, I have already come across that internet page with the photos too. which is where i got the information from about james and lillian. We just dont know whether its the person he married here or found in canada. it was all very secret. We didnt hear from james and even violet his sister which is my great nan didnt hear from him or knew that he passed away in the 90's. It says neices and nephews...but who. there is a condolence message from the mueller family. I sent a message but got nothing back.

Thanks for all your help. Cant thank you enough!!
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This looks like your Gordon:

Obituary for Gordon J. Walters

WALTERS, Gordon J. - Passed away peacefully at the Brantford General Hospital, on Thursday May 21st, 2009 in his 79th year. Beloved husband of the late Phyllis (nee Huculak). He is predeceased by his parents James and Lillian Walters. He will be fondly remembered by many nieces, nephews and friends. Gordon liked to fish, and had been a coach for both baseball and hockey throughout his earlier years. Friends will be received at the BECKETT- GLAVES FAMILY FUNERAL CENTRE, 88 Brant Ave., on Monday from 3 - 5 and 7 - 9 p.m. A Funeral Service will be held in the Chapel on Tuesday at 11:00 a.m. Interment Mt. Hope Cemetery. Donations to the Alzheimer Society of Brant, or a charity of your choice would be appreciated. Online condolences, donations, service details and funeral audios will be available at www.beckettglaves.com. A tree will be planted in memory of Gordon in the Beckett-Glaves Memorial Forest. 11522833

How did you know the birth and death dates for Lily?

My grandad remembers, but we are unsure about the reason he left as it could of been because he had an affair. If the reason was because he had an affair then that would explain why he didn't put the married home address. However, if there is no such record that they were not married, maybe they weren't. Its a tricky one. I am looking in to whether lily is another name for something else, because I know they used to do that. Thank you for looking and hopefully I will get to the bottom of it. :-S

Are you sure about that marriage? It's just that when he left England in 1929 the address he gave was the same as the address he gave for his mother when he arrived in Canada making it seem that he was living with his mother.

I can't find the marriage of James & Lily.

James married a lily walters c1901 - c1988. I do not know her maiden name.

Yes that would be james on that ship. Thankyou, I had found a ship with details but the parents and address didnt match up.

When you say...

"we never did know if James went to Canada with the person he married in England "

Who did James marry in England?

James arrival in Canada; It gives name of nearest relative as mother Mrs. Mary Walters, 27 navigation St., Wolverhampton. Heading to London, Ontario.

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about James Walters Name: James Walters
Gender: Male
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 12 May 1929
Vessel: Doric
Search Ship Database: View the 'Doric' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14752

Could be

Address in England..... 27 Navigation St, Wolverhampton

No other Walters traveling with him

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Janes Walters..........*James on image*
Gender: Male
Age: 23
Birth Date: abt 1906
Departure Date: 3 May 1929
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Quebec, Canada
Ship Name: Doric
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Doric' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: White Star Line
Official Number: 147215
Master: N Cole

Misty x

Edit...18 Images, mean's there are 18 pages in his army records, that can be viewed

Interesting fact...James Walters born 1906 fled to Canada around 1929 we think..he never came back for unknown reasons...however he had a child called Gordon Walters 1931 - 2009 who my grandad kept in touch with (Christmas cards etc).We found the memorial internet page for Gordon in Canada. Although, we never did know if James went to Canada with the person he married in England or remarried in Canada. I have tried to find the shipping details and come across a James in 1929 but the mother and father names are wrong. I still do not know if Gordon had children and if we have family over there.

BTW what does it mean...under Harry Walters regiment details...Number of images:18?
Thanks

Thank you. I have the photo from france. However, I did not know he was so young going in to the army and so little, 5ft1!! Going to investigate James and Isabella now. :)

The War Graves Photographic Project have photographed his Headstone.

If this is something you would like you can obtain a copy, but they do ask for a donation.

Walters, Harry

Cemetery: Noeux-Les-Mines Communal Cemetery

Country: France

Area: Pas De Calais

Rank: Private

Official Number: 240334

Unit: 1st/6th Bn. South Staffordshire Regiment.

Force: Army

Nationality: British

Details:
Died of wounds 26th June 1917. Age 38. Husband of Mary Walters of 8 Little Moore St. Wolverhampton. II. C. 11.


Link to the site and details

http://twgpp.org/information.php?id=3029650


George

Maybe him in 1881

Name: Harry Walters
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Walters
Mother's Name: Isabella Walters
Gender: Male
Where born: W Hampton, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Wolverhampton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: 22 Duke St
Education:


Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2804
Folio: 79
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
James Walters 35
Isabella Walters 40
Mary Pools 19
James Walters 7
Clara Walters 3
Harry Walters

From CWGC

WALTERS, HARRY

Rank: Private
Service No: 240334
Date of Death: 26/06/1917
Age: 38
Regiment/Service: South Staffordshire Regiment 1st/6th Bn.
Grave Reference: II. C. 11.
Cemetery: NOEUX-LES-MINES COMMUNAL CEMETERY

Additional Information:
Husband of Mary Walters, of 8, Little Moore St., Wolverhampton.

Do you have the marriage certificate? It will give you fathers' names:

Marriages Mar 1904 (>99%)
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Tomkiss Mary Wolverhampton 6b 717
Walters Henry Wolverhampton 6b 717

(Harry being a nickname for Henry)

They had 2 more children.........

Births Dec 1911 (>99%)
Walters Frederick T Tomkiss Wolverhampton 6b 1085


Births Mar 1915 (>99%)
Walters Benjamin Tomkiss Wolverhampton 6b 1145


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Frederick Thomas Walters
Name: Frederick Thomas Walters
Birth Date: 12 Oct 1911
Date of Registration: Sep 1985
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Inferred County: West Midlands
Volume: 34
Page: 563



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Benjamin Walters
Name: Benjamin Walters
Birth Date: 11 Jan 1915
Date of Registration: Nov 1994
Age at Death: 79
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Inferred County: West Midlands
Register Number: B44A
District and Subdistrict: 0771B
Entry number: 293

1st July 1902

Name: Harry Walters
Age at enlistment: 17 - ( recorded as APPARRENT age )
Birth Parish: Wolverhampton
Birth County: Staffordshire
Regimental Number: 9160
Regiment Name: So Staffordshire R??
Number of images: 18


Aged 17yr 8months
Nut Bolt finisher

5Ft 1&3/8inch tall
Grey eyes
Brown hair
weight 109 lb
Church of England

address - 10 lime street Wolverhampton