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mgnv

mgnv Report 30 Jan 2013 22:33

Ann-Marie - the obit names some kids, etc. This generation would be in their 60s & 70s, most likely. I'ld start by trying to call them. If you get any of her rellies, you can ask them for names and addy's of who you'ld be best to contact.

Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 30 Jan 2013 22:29

http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/images/getimage/genealogy/screensize/bcfb2e88-58cb-442c-8ca3-5faa7de8c16d

This is Harry's death cert

Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 30 Jan 2013 22:22

I also wondered something, as Emily it appears died in the workhouse (am trying to find out who holds the records for the workhouse in Richmond as I'm in London next month and can have a nosey around and see what's there) if Penelope was born in the welsh workhouse? As from 1904 they were not allowed to put workhouse anymore and they have a list of fake address used, but none listed for Wales, I need to find the cert in my huge pile and see what it says, or she may have gone in with her mum and been adopted afterwards? Would the workhouse records for Emily show me if she came in with children etc? And what happened to them? I've not found any member of my family to have been in a workhouse thus far so not too sure what the record could tell me?

I also wonder if it is worth my while to purchase the death cert for Emily? As usually it is registered by the workhouse officer as opposed to a family member?

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 30 Jan 2013 21:41

Havent found a death for Frances as yet....she would be 98 if she were alive....spose its possible?

Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 30 Jan 2013 20:12

Hi ya, I'm so sorry I have missed this, our exchange went down due to bloody snow..... Grrr and then the ice meant nobody could get to fix it!!

Right so to start the way I read Dorothy's obit means that she was the last of her 11 brothers and sisters (pre deceased by) so there is no on of her age left...

And we think that Harry and Frances adopted her? I see the link for my telephone who do I search to call? Also do I call? As I don't know for sure if she knows, (if she is still alive) I know the a word is a bit tricky and I'm not causing a debate etc but just don't know if I should? And where did you find all this info? I have scoured ancestry extensively but to no avail!!!

Thank you all for your help!! X

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 30 Jan 2013 01:27

using mgnv search archives above, I think that this might be Harry's death...........

Harry Leonard Hudson
Place Vancouver
Reg. Number:1986-09-017388
Date:1986 10 26 (Yr/Mo/Day)
Age:66
Event:Death
Microfilm #:
B16583 (GSU # 1358023)
Copy Available



mgnv

mgnv Report 29 Jan 2013 23:29

As you will see, BC BMDs are closed for the time of interest:
http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-1A5CCF2/gbsearch/Births,Marriages,Deaths

You could try giving her rellies a call:
http://phonebook.mytelus.com/Home

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 29 Jan 2013 19:57


Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980 about Mrs Frances Hudson
Name: Mrs Frances Hudson
Location: Burnaby; Richmond; Delta, British Columbia
Electoral District: Burnaby-Richmond-Delta
Year: 1972


Listed with Harry L Hudson Statistician

apt 219 Springfield Drive East

Gins

Gins Report 29 Jan 2013 19:09

Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980

Name: Harry L Hudson <No Frances
Location: Burnaby; Richmond, British Columbia
Occupation: Clerk
Electoral District: Burnaby-Richmond
Year: 1965

Harry was listed as a 'Clerk' on the shipping record


But she is here

Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980
Name: Harry & Frances Hudson
Location: Burnaby; Richmond, British Columbia
Occupation: Clerk
Electoral District: Burnaby-Richmond
Year: 1962

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 29 Jan 2013 18:11

1959 they were back in London Westminster


London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about Harry L Hudson
Name: Harry L Hudson
Year: 1959
County or Borough: City of London
Ward or Division/Constituency: London and Westminster
Street Address: 37 Denbigh Street

havent found them after.................so maybe they did go to Canada?

Gins

Gins Report 29 Jan 2013 17:10

I wonder if it was the Hudson' that adopted Pen* and they went back to Canada?

I cant find a death for Harry or Frances in the UK?

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 29 Jan 2013 16:59


UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Frances Mary Gresley Hudson
Name: Frances Mary Gresley Hudson
Gender: Female
Age: 35
Birth Date: abt 1916
Departure Date: 21 Jul 1951
Port of Departure: Plymouth, England
Destination Port: Halifax, Canada
Ship Name: Europa
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Europa' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Incres Line
Master: F Perilli


Travelling with Harry leonard Hudson.........clerk aged 31
address 54 Gloucester St London SW1

Gins

Gins Report 29 Jan 2013 16:26

Just noticed this after Moody' post


UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Frances Hudson & Harry
Birth Date: 5 Sep 1915
Age: 40
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 26 Sep 1955
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Queen Mary
Search Ship Database: View the 'Queen Mary' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Cunard Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 7602/01

On the same ship as Pen* Maybe they went out to bring her home

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 29 Jan 2013 15:24

In 1957 Emily Greenhalgh was living with her younger sister and her husband Harry L Hudson at 32 Cypress Avenue, Whitton Twickenham Middlesex England


London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about Emily Greenhalgh
Name: Emily Greenhalgh
Year: 1957
County or Borough: Twickenham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Twickenham West
Street Address: 32 Twickenham
Reference Number: MR/PER/C/0985

is the same in 1958


Believe that this is her death and burial



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Emily Greenhalgh
Name: Emily Greenhalgh
Birth Date: abt 1913
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1958
Age at Death: 45
Registration district: Ealing
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5e
Page: 189



London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980 about Emily Greenhalgh
Name: Emily Greenhalgh
Record Type: Burial
Estimated Death Date: abt 1958
Burial Date: 3 Mar 1958
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1913
Parish or Poor Law Union: : Whitton St Philip and St James
Borough: Richmond upon Thames
Register Type: Parish Register
buried Twickenham Cemetary

cemetary details

Deceased details
Deceased name Emily Greenhalgh
Date of Burial 03/03/1958
Gender Female
Age 45 Years
Date of death Unknown
Location Twickenham Cemetery
Section K
Grave 21 class B


Perhaps Penelope was adopted after her mother died?

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 29 Jan 2013 14:19

maybe just for the purpose of elimination of if someone else finds something:

Emily's younger sister:

Births Dec 1915
Jones Frances M G Cornwall St Asaph 11b 474


Marriages Sep 1941
Hudson Harry L Jones St. Asaph 11b 605
Jones Frances M G Hudson St.Asaph 11b 605


London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about Frances M Hudson
Name: Frances M Hudson & Harry L Hudson
Year: 1948
County or Borough: City of London
Ward or Division/Constituency: London and Westminster
Street Address: 54 Gloucester Street

Gins

Gins Report 29 Jan 2013 14:00

Thanks Margee, got it.

Margee

Margee Report 29 Jan 2013 13:42

Gins, click on the link. Enter the name Conroy in the "Search this publication" box. Click on the newspaper. Her obit is on the left hand side with her photo. Click on it to enlarge.

Gins

Gins Report 29 Jan 2013 13:19

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: Penelope Greenhaugh
Birth Date: 9 Jan 1943
Age: 12
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 26 Sep 1955
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Queen Mary
Search Ship Database: View the 'Queen Mary' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Cunard Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 7602/01

Address in the UK: 44 Russell House, Cambridge Street, London

Last permanant residence; Canada
Intended permanant residence; England


Does the DOB match with your Pen* It looks like she was sent back to the UK and maybe adopted over here

Gins

Gins Report 29 Jan 2013 13:11

Margee

I cant see anything using that link?

The tree I mentioned has James' death for about 1994, is there any obit for him?

Cheers :-)

Margee

Margee Report 29 Jan 2013 12:28

Dorothy's obit lists son Richard and daughters Genie/Gerie? (Chris), Vikkie and Geri (Peter)

http://issuu.com/richmondreview/docs/04-20-12/search

Incidentally it says Dorothy passed away in April 2012.