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1911 Lookup Please New Request

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Ozqld

Ozqld Report 1 Feb 2013 03:03

Mary Alice Marsh (nee Jones) born 1879 Swinton, have done a person search on fmp it looks like she is living in Wigan at time of 1911 Census, husband is Samuel Marsh born 1877, two daughters Alice born 1899 or 1900 she was 1yr old on the 1901 and the other daughter was May Marsh 1mth old on the 1901, from the person search she is coming up under the name Mary Marsh. Could someone look for this family in Wigan on the 1911 Census for me please.
End of new request..........

Previous Post Below---
Mary Alice Jones married William George Lane in JAS 1906, I don't have access to the 1911 census on fmp, however they have come up in a person search as being in separate registration districts would someone please have a look for me and send me the detail.

Lane, William George, 1884, Age 27, Male, Barton upon Irwell, Lancashire
Lane, Mary Alice 1879, Age 32, Female, Bolton, Lancashire

Many Thanks
Christine

LindaB

LindaB Report 1 Feb 2013 03:14


Possible 1911...

Name: William George Lane
Age in 1911: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Winton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Swinton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 221 Moorside Rd Swinton Nr Manc
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Carter In Gardens (Domestic)
Registration district: Barton upon Irwell
Registration District Number: 463
Sub-registration district: Worsley
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Piece: 23580
Household Members: Name Age
William George Lane 27
Mary Alice Lane 26 >>>born Swinton
Annie Lane 4
Albert Lane 8/12

Linda

Ozqld

Ozqld Report 1 Feb 2013 03:22

Thanks Linda B

Not sure about this one my Mary Alice was born in 1879 so the age on this seems wrong, are you able to look up the one for the Mary Alice age 32 in Bolton Registration District as that one fits perfectly.

LindaB

LindaB Report 1 Feb 2013 03:49


Sorry Christine...this is the only 1911 I can find on Ancestry. According to the census image they had been married 4 years.

Linda

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Feb 2013 04:15

Is this possibly the Mary Alice Lane you think mught be yours??


1911 Census

Name: Mary Alice Lane
Age in 1911: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Little Hulton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Little Hulton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 9 Pld Lane, Little Hulton Nr Bolton
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Bolton
Registration District Number: 461
Sub-registration district: Farnworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Piece: 23281

Robert Lane 32
Mary Alice Lane 32
Helen Lane 4
Bessie Lane 1


Married 9 years



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Feb 2013 04:18

I would say that Linda had found your couple!





sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Feb 2013 04:19

Note ............. we are both looking on ancestry, not FMP

Ozqld

Ozqld Report 1 Feb 2013 04:22

Firstly apologies Linda B
I'm getting so confused with these Jones, I have two brothers who both have a daughter Mary Alice Jones the one you found for me on the 1911 is the daughter of George, your findings were correct, so sorry my mistake the penny has just dropped with me.

Sylvia its possible that the 1911 for the other Mary Alice Lane with husband Robert is also mine and her father was William (brother of George). I'll do some research on this one. It may be that both Mary Alices married into the Lane family.

Apologies once again Linda B and thankyou both for your help.

Regards Christine

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Feb 2013 06:07

you're very welcome




sylvia

Flip

Flip Report 1 Feb 2013 07:18

I don't think the other Mary Alice is yours - from lancsopc:

Marriage: 29 Mar 1902 St John the Baptist, Little Hulton, Lancashire, England
Robert Lane - 23, collier, bachelor, Manchester Road East
Mary Alice Fletcher - 23, spinster, Peel
Groom's Father: William Lane, collier
Bride's Father: James Fletcher, collier
Witness: Thomas William Hirst; Martha Ellen Lane
Married by banns
Register: Marriages 1876 - 1914, Page 157, Entry 313
Source: Original Parish Register held at Manchester Central Library

from the same site - your Mary Alice:

Marriage: 2 Jul 1906 St Peter, Swinton, Lancashire, England
William George Lane - 22, Labourer, Bachelor, 219 Moorside Road
Mary Alice Jones - 21, Winder, Spinster, 20 Sutherland Street
Groom's Father: John Lane, Lurryman
Bride's Father: George Jones, Miner
Witness: Albert Edward Lane; Elizabeth Hudson
Married by Banns by: D. O. Evans, Curate
Register: Marriages 1903 - 1909, Page 129, Entry 257
Source: Manchester Central Library


Ozqld

Ozqld Report 1 Feb 2013 12:28

Thanks Flip
I've been at work, only a short shift though. Will research deaths just to rule them out and if no luck there I'll go through the marriages.

Regards Christine

Flip

Flip Report 1 Feb 2013 12:51

Is it William or George's daughter Mary Alice Jones you are more interested in and approx when was William's daughter born?

Ozqld

Ozqld Report 1 Feb 2013 14:09

Hi Flip

George Jones daughter Mary Alice Jones b. 1885 was the one who married William George Lane.

My GGGrandfather is William Jones (brother of George) he also had a daughter called Mary Alice Jones who was born in 1879 on the 1881 census she is Mary Alice born in Swinton 1879 age 2 however on the 1891 census she is Margaret Jones born 1879 in Swinton age 12, have not found her on the 1901 census so she must have died or married I've not found anything yet.

Ozqld

Ozqld Report 1 Feb 2013 15:20

Well everyone I haven't found a death but have found a possible marriage:

Mary Alice Jones and Samuel Marsh JAS 1897 8d 164 unable to find this marriage on any other site but Ancestry.

Have found this family on the 1901 census and it looks to be the right one to me.
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3751; Folio: 99; Page: 9.

Could someone do a search for Samuel and Mary Alice Marsh on the 1911 for me please.

Thanks Christine

Flip

Flip Report 1 Feb 2013 16:03

Hi Christine, it's easier for others to check if you post what you've found - I assume this is the 1901 census you refer to?

Mary A Marsh
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Samuel Marsh
Gender: Female
Where born: Swinton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Collyhurst St James
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 48
Piece: 3751
Folio: 99
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Marsh 24 <<plumber born Manchester
Mary A Marsh 22
Alice Marsh 1 << born Swinton (removed mmn, it was not recorded for this birth)
May Marsh Under 1 Month << born Manchester

Flip

Flip Report 1 Feb 2013 16:18

The marriage is on freebmd, so not sure why you can only find it on Ancestry:

Marriages Sep 1897 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Jones Mary Alice Salford 8d 164 <<<
Marsh Samuel Salford 8d 164 <<<
SPURDEN Annie Salford 8d 164
Talbot Joseph Salford 8d 164

Ozqld

Ozqld Report 1 Feb 2013 23:41

Thanks Flip

That is the 1901 Census that I found, would someone be able to follow on and find them on the 1911 for me please.

Thanks Chrisine

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 2 Feb 2013 01:30

why would Alice Marsh b.ca1900 on the 1901 Census be registered with mmn Jones?????

IF this is Samuel and Mary Alice that Christine found the marriage for, they were married in 1897.




I can find no trace of any of them on the 1911 Census

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 2 Feb 2013 01:40

This is the entry for their marriage on lancs bmd


http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/


MARSH Samuel JONES Mary A Salford St Simon Salford C27/17/447

Ozqld

Ozqld Report 2 Feb 2013 13:09

Nudge for my new request please see start of this post for new request details.