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Hi Christine, as there are rather a lot of Mary Alice Jones's about you may be better getting the marriage certificate to see if you've got the right one! (Details already posted). There is the chance that this one is not the one you're looking for - that is unless you know if the children are right.

Thankyou so much Gins and Maddie that is the family I was wanting to find.

Kind Regards Christine

from fmp
MARSH, Samuel Head Married13 years M 34 1877 Plumber Manchester Lancashire VIEW
MARSH, Mary Alice Wife Married13 years F 32 1879 Swinton Lancashire VIEW
MARSH, Alice Daughter F 11 1900 School Swinton Lancashire VIEW
MARSH, Lillian Daughter F 10 1901 School Manchester Lancashire VIEW
MARSH, Edith Daughter F 7 1904 School Manchester Lancashire VIEW
MARSH, Annie Daughter F 4 1907 Manchester Lancashire VIEW


RG number: RG14

Piece: 24145

Reference: RG14PN24145 RG78PN1387 RD466 SD3 ED12 SN16

Registration District: Manchester

Sub District: St George

Enumeration District: 12

Parish: Manchester

Address: 33 Osborne St Oldham Road M/r

County: Lancashire

1911 England Census

Name: Alice Marth
Age in 1911: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Swinton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 33 Osborne St Oldham Rd M/c
Occupation: School
Registration district: Manchester
Registration District Number: 466
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Piece: 24145
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Marth 34 Plumber
Mary Alice Marth 32
Alice Marth 11
Lillian Marth 10
Edith Marth 7
Annie Marth 4
Mary Ann Cavey 52 Hant Of Famed (House Holder)
Ellen Cavey 26 Daughter
Robert Taylor 39 Boarder


Looking at the image, the people listed below the Marsh family are not shown on the census, looks like an error with the transcription

Just had another look, the Cavey family are next door at number 35

Nudge for my new request please see start of this post for new request details.

This is the entry for their marriage on lancs bmd


http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/


MARSH Samuel JONES Mary A Salford St Simon Salford C27/17/447

why would Alice Marsh b.ca1900 on the 1901 Census be registered with mmn Jones?????

IF this is Samuel and Mary Alice that Christine found the marriage for, they were married in 1897.




I can find no trace of any of them on the 1911 Census

Thanks Flip

That is the 1901 Census that I found, would someone be able to follow on and find them on the 1911 for me please.

Thanks Chrisine

The marriage is on freebmd, so not sure why you can only find it on Ancestry:

Marriages Sep 1897 (>99%)
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Jones Mary Alice Salford 8d 164 <<<
Marsh Samuel Salford 8d 164 <<<
SPURDEN Annie Salford 8d 164
Talbot Joseph Salford 8d 164

Hi Christine, it's easier for others to check if you post what you've found - I assume this is the 1901 census you refer to?

Mary A Marsh
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Samuel Marsh
Gender: Female
Where born: Swinton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Collyhurst St James
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 48
Piece: 3751
Folio: 99
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Marsh 24 <<plumber born Manchester
Mary A Marsh 22
Alice Marsh 1 << born Swinton (removed mmn, it was not recorded for this birth)
May Marsh Under 1 Month << born Manchester

Well everyone I haven't found a death but have found a possible marriage:

Mary Alice Jones and Samuel Marsh JAS 1897 8d 164 unable to find this marriage on any other site but Ancestry.

Have found this family on the 1901 census and it looks to be the right one to me.
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3751; Folio: 99; Page: 9.

Could someone do a search for Samuel and Mary Alice Marsh on the 1911 for me please.

Thanks Christine

Hi Flip

George Jones daughter Mary Alice Jones b. 1885 was the one who married William George Lane.

My GGGrandfather is William Jones (brother of George) he also had a daughter called Mary Alice Jones who was born in 1879 on the 1881 census she is Mary Alice born in Swinton 1879 age 2 however on the 1891 census she is Margaret Jones born 1879 in Swinton age 12, have not found her on the 1901 census so she must have died or married I've not found anything yet.

Is it William or George's daughter Mary Alice Jones you are more interested in and approx when was William's daughter born?

Thanks Flip
I've been at work, only a short shift though. Will research deaths just to rule them out and if no luck there I'll go through the marriages.

Regards Christine

I don't think the other Mary Alice is yours - from lancsopc:

Marriage: 29 Mar 1902 St John the Baptist, Little Hulton, Lancashire, England
Robert Lane - 23, collier, bachelor, Manchester Road East
Mary Alice Fletcher - 23, spinster, Peel
Groom's Father: William Lane, collier
Bride's Father: James Fletcher, collier
Witness: Thomas William Hirst; Martha Ellen Lane
Married by banns
Register: Marriages 1876 - 1914, Page 157, Entry 313
Source: Original Parish Register held at Manchester Central Library

from the same site - your Mary Alice:

Marriage: 2 Jul 1906 St Peter, Swinton, Lancashire, England
William George Lane - 22, Labourer, Bachelor, 219 Moorside Road
Mary Alice Jones - 21, Winder, Spinster, 20 Sutherland Street
Groom's Father: John Lane, Lurryman
Bride's Father: George Jones, Miner
Witness: Albert Edward Lane; Elizabeth Hudson
Married by Banns by: D. O. Evans, Curate
Register: Marriages 1903 - 1909, Page 129, Entry 257
Source: Manchester Central Library

you're very welcome




sylvia

Firstly apologies Linda B
I'm getting so confused with these Jones, I have two brothers who both have a daughter Mary Alice Jones the one you found for me on the 1911 is the daughter of George, your findings were correct, so sorry my mistake the penny has just dropped with me.

Sylvia its possible that the 1911 for the other Mary Alice Lane with husband Robert is also mine and her father was William (brother of George). I'll do some research on this one. It may be that both Mary Alices married into the Lane family.

Apologies once again Linda B and thankyou both for your help.

Regards Christine

Note ............. we are both looking on ancestry, not FMP

I would say that Linda had found your couple!





sylvia

Is this possibly the Mary Alice Lane you think mught be yours??


1911 Census

Name: Mary Alice Lane
Age in 1911: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Little Hulton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Little Hulton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 9 Pld Lane, Little Hulton Nr Bolton
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Bolton
Registration District Number: 461
Sub-registration district: Farnworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Piece: 23281

Robert Lane 32
Mary Alice Lane 32
Helen Lane 4
Bessie Lane 1


Married 9 years



sylvia