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KERR, Harrie

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JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 4 Feb 2013 10:29

I've been searching for Harrie Kerr, born 4 March 1869 (believed to be Scotland but it could have been Border country as family story said he spoke with a Scottish accent).

Harrie went to Australia where he worked as a Blacksmith. He died in Oz on 11 June 1948. He had at least the following siblings:

James Kerr (believed went to Australia)
Donald Kerr (believed went to Australia)

Kate Kerr (believed went to South Africa)
Bessie Kerr (believed went to South Africa).

Would anyone be able to help, please?


Astra

Astra Report 4 Feb 2013 10:46

Where in Australia did he die please?

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Feb 2013 10:52

What are you trying to find out?

When did he migrate to Australia?

JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 4 Feb 2013 11:00

He died in Victoria.

Trying to find out who his parents were and where Harrie was actually born.

Potty

Potty Report 4 Feb 2013 11:03

Did he marry and if so, who to? Did he have any children?

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Feb 2013 11:04

I doubt very much that he was actually given the name Harrie...............and there is no record of that version of the name on Ancestry

You haven't said WHEN he migrated...........

Where did you learn of his siblings, if you don't know the names of the parents?

Did he marry?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 4 Feb 2013 11:08

you need Scotlands People for his birth ,registration was compulsory from 1855

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 4 Feb 2013 11:11

maybe
1871 Scotland Census about Harry T Kerr
Name: Harry T Kerr
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: William Kerr
Mother's Name: Mary R Kerr
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Registration number: 282/1
Registration district: St Peter
Civil parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 1 Hawkhill Place
ED: 8
Household schedule number: 82
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1871_49
Household Members:
Name Age
William Kerr 36
Mary R Kerr 33
Mary E J Kerr 6
George B Kerr 4
Harry T Kerr 2
Jane Y Ogilvie 26
Helen M Hampton 23
Ann Stewart 21

Source Citation: Parish: Dundee; ED: 8; Page: 15; Line: 12; Roll: CSSCT1871_49

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Feb 2013 11:13

Which State did he die in? DC's are held at the State level. The DC would give the names of his parents if known

JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 4 Feb 2013 11:19

I've tried Harry as well as Harrie.

I have no idea when he migrated but I do know that the names of his siblings were passed down the family. I've tried to find Harrie and Harry in the 1871 Census for Scotland and the Border counties and found a couple but nothing to tie in with the names of his siblings.

So ... do you think he could have got the supposedly Scottish accent from parents although he was born in Oz or on the journey out?

Harrie married 1st Jane Cox and had the following children, all born Euroa:
Leslie James, b 14.05.1893
Evelyn May, b 01.06.1896
Bessie Florence, b 19.07.189?
Henry Baden Powell, b 23.05.1900
Alice Catherine, b 27.08.1903

After Jane died, Harrie then married Grace Webb (nee Moore) who already had two daughters.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Feb 2013 11:39

For those of us who don't know where it is -

Euroa is a town in the Shire of Strathbogie in the north-east of Victoria, Australia.

Potty

Potty Report 4 Feb 2013 11:40


As Det said, his death cert should give the names of his parents. It may then be possible to find them on the census. Is his father's name on either of the marriage certs?

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Feb 2013 11:47

That one in 1871 is followed through on Ancestry

1911 England Census
Name: Harry Thomas Kerr
Age in 1911: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: DUNDEE, Dundee, Scotland
Civil parish: Lewisham
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 296 Brownhill Road, Catford, London S E
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: MANAGER
Registration district: Lewisham
Registration District Number: 29
Sub-registration district: Lewisham
ED, institution, or vessel: 48
Piece: 2797
Household Members:
Name Age
Harry Thomas Kerr 42
Florence Frances Kerr 38
Marguerete Florence Kerr 17
Victoria Mary Grainger Kerr 14

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Feb 2013 11:53

Try searching for BMD on

https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search

One of the marriages from Ancestry

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Hy Kerr
Spouse Name: Jane Cox
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1891
Registration number: 6805

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Feb 2013 12:06

Not what you wanted, but definitely linked to the family

WW1 enlistment
KERR LESLIE JAMES KERR Leslie James : Service Number - 3374 : Place of Birth - Euroa VIC : Place of Enlistment - Melbourne VIC : Next of Kin - (N/A) KERR Harry

From
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/using/search/index.aspx
Select 'Begin your search'
Then Name Search from the green tabs
Family name – Kerr
Category from the drop down box - ~World War 1 (enter)
There are 439 results – select Refine this search result
Enter Given names – Leslie James (enter)
Then ‘display’

You can view the documents ‘View digital copy’


Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Feb 2013 12:07

Either of his marriage certs would be your best bet, I would have thought

The suggestion that he was born en route to Australia doesn't 'gel' with the idea that he had sisters who went to South Africa........unless, of course, they went there from Australia

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Feb 2013 12:15

What can you see on an Australian MC? ~Entry edited to show only Vic

Date Yes
Couple's names Yes
Couple's ages Yes
Couple's birthplaces from 1896
Previous status Yes
Couple's occupations Yes
Couple's residences Yes
Fathers' names Yes
Fathers' occupations Yes
Groom's mothers name from 1896
Bride's mothers name Yes
Available (Historical*) aftr 60 yrs

http://www.jaunay.com/bdm.html

So the MC is the way to go. At the very least you'll get his father's name, and if you or someone can find his 2nd marriage, his mother's name

EDIT - from http://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/utility/fees/ the cost of an Uncertified historical image is AUD$20

Gins

Gins Report 4 Feb 2013 12:21

So it looks like his name was Henry


Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Leslie James Kerr
Name: Leslie James Kerr
Father's Name: Henry Kerr
Mother's Name: Jane Cox
Birth Place: Euro, Victoria
Registration Year: 1893
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 22151

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Feb 2013 12:58

Searching http://goo.gl/BjTZf (historical Victorian BMD).

Marriages
Kerr
Henry
dates 1903-1948 (birth year of youngest child listed to year of his death)

* You may view 28 matching records as 2 separate pages.
Each result page not previously viewed in this session will cost $ 0.99 to view.*

Edit – in view of Anne’s discovery above/below, change the parameter to 1907-1948

Sometimes you have to pay to get the documented information about your family!

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 4 Feb 2013 12:59

I came to the same conclusion as Gins... his name was Henry.
1st wife died in 1907
However, he is listed on all ERs as Harry.
With his 2nd wife Grace, he can be found on Ers from 1914 until at least 1939 living at:
Welshpool, Foster, Gippsland, Victoria.

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Jane Kerr
Name: Jane Kerr
Death Place: Euroa, Victoria
Age: 40
Father's Name: Cox Elless
Mother's Name: Bridt Meehan
Registration Year: 1907
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 8125
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867