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hayley

hayley Report 6 Feb 2013 04:56

Hi everyone I've have come to a dead end I've got stuck on my grandfather's side edward w Millington born 1907 in Honeywell. I can find his birth and death cert but can't find him on a census to find his parents :( any ideas would be greatly appreciated thank you in advance :-)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 6 Feb 2013 05:17

Hi Hayley


welcome to the Boards.


where have you looked for your grandfather??


Have you looked on the 1911 Census?



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 6 Feb 2013 05:20

where is Honeywell???????

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 6 Feb 2013 05:25

Do you mean HOLYWELL??


Is this his birth registration??


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Edward Wilfred Millington
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1907
Registration district: Holywell
Inferred County: Flintshire
Volume: 11b
Page: 196



You should buy his birth certificate to find out the names of his parents. That is the only way you can be certain that you have the correct family.


In fact, the ideal is to find his marriage certificate, and buy that. That will tell you the name of his father.

Then you buy the birth certificate based on the father's name


Genealogy, unfortunately, is not a cheap hobby.


Each certificate costs £9.25 from the following site. GRO = General Registry Office

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/


You have to register, but there is no cost for that.


First, get your information from www.freebmd.co.uk

Make a note of the name as shown on that registration, and of the set of 2 numbers at the end of the line ....... they are called the GRO Index Numbers


Fill in the order form exactly as shown on freebmd

When asked if you have the GRO Index Number, answer Yes


You cannot see information from any English or Welsh certificate anywhere else on line, except for some from the London area.

No-one else can see those details, either.


Seeing the names of your ancestor in a census is not true evidence that that person IS your ancestor ............. you will find that there could be several people with the same name!




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 6 Feb 2013 05:28

Is this your grandfather's marriage????


This is from www.freebmd.org.uk



Marriages Jun 1935 (>99%)

Hulley Elizabeth Millington Hawarden 11b 481
Millington Edward W Hulley Hawarden 11b 481



Was your grandmother called Elizabeth???




sylvia

Choccy

Choccy Report 6 Feb 2013 07:24



could this be him? No Edward Morris Millington birth registered (as far as I can see)

1911

MILLINGTON, Thomas Father Married M 39 1872 General Labourer Mold Flint
MILLINGTON, Jane Wife Married17 years F 39 1872 Flintshire Mold MILLINGTON, Robert William Son Single M 16 1895 Screening Coal Colliery Flintshire Mold
MILLINGTON, Doris Daughter Single F 14 1897 No Occupation Flintshire Mold MILLINGTON, Thomas Son M 12 1899 School Flintshire Mold
MILLINGTON, Herbert Son M 9 1902 School Flintshire Mold
MILLINGTON, Margaret Daughter F 8 1903 School Flintshire Mold
MILLINGTON, Mary Daughter F 7 1904 School Flintshire Mold
>>>>>>MILLINGTON, Edward Morris Son M 4 1907 School Flintshire Mold
MILLINGTON, Harol Son M 1 1910 Flintshire Mold

RG number: RG14
Piece: 33961
Reference: RG14PN33961 RG78PN1961 RD619 SD4 ED13 SN199
Registration District: Holywell
Sub District: Mold
Enumeration District: 13
Parish: Mold Urban
Address: Henffrdd Mold
County: Flintshire


Dea

Dea Report 6 Feb 2013 08:45

That is the correct one above - I have found his baptism on FMP - parents Thomas and Jane:

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/records/parish-records/view-image/B/883175284?_zga_s=1


Address looks like Hwffodd ?? St. Mold, and father Thomas is a Labourer.


(+ From family search site:)

name: Edward Wilfred Millington
event: Baptism
event date: 13 Jun 1907
event place: Mold, Flintshire, Wales
age:
estimated birth year:
spouse:
film number:
digital folder number: 004371948

Dea x

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Feb 2013 09:05

Welcome to the boards Hayley.


1901 Wales Census
about Thomas Millington
Name: Thomas Millington
Age in 1901: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Millington
Gender: Male
Where born: Mold, Flintshire, Wales

Civil parish: Mold
Ecclesiastical parish: Mold
Town: Mold
County/Island: Flintshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Holywell
Sub-registration district: Mold
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 208
Piece: 5214
Folio: 44
Page Number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Millington 27
Jane Millington 27
Robert Millington 5
Dorris E Millington 4
Thomas M Millington 1


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Feb 2013 09:09

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Thomas Millington
Name: Thomas Millington
Spouse Name: Jane Jones
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1894
Registration district: Holywell
Inferred County: Flintshire
Volume Number: 11b
Page Number: 295


Dea

Dea Report 6 Feb 2013 09:16

Well, I got to the same names for the marriage Prickles but the one I found was in 1894 not 1925 which you posted above?

Marriages Mar 1894
Anderson Charlotte Holywell 11b 295

Jones Jane Holywell 11b 295
MILLINGTON Thomas Holywell 11b 295

Roberts James Holywell 11b 295

Dea Xxx

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Feb 2013 09:24

Ooops, i have corrected that Dea.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Feb 2013 10:04

Doris Emily Millington
Wales, Flintshire, Parish Registers, 1538-1912
baptism 09 Apr 1897 Mold, Flintshire, Wales
nameDoris Emily MillingtoneventBaptismevent date09 Apr 1897event placeMold, Flintshire, Wales


Robert William Millington
Wales, Flintshire, Parish Registers, 1538-1912
baptism 13 Dec 1894 Mold, Flintshire, Wales
nameRobert William MillingtoneventBaptismevent date13 Dec 1894event placeMold, Flintshire, Wales


Ah, look at this..........<<<<<<<<<

Thomas Morris Millington
Wales, Flintshire, Parish Registers, 1538-1912
baptism 24 Aug 1899 Mold, Flintshire, Wales
nameThomas Morris MillingtoneventBaptismevent date24 Aug 1899event placeMold, Flintshire, Wales


It seems the middle name "Morris" was entered next to Edward instead of Thomas on the 1911 census.


Herbert Millington
Wales, Flintshire, Parish Registers, 1538-1912
baptism 09 Jan 1902 Mold, Flintshire, Wales
nameHerbert MillingtoneventBaptismevent date09 Jan 1902event placeMold, Flintshire, Wales


Margaret Anne Millington
Wales, Flintshire, Parish Registers, 1538-1912
baptism 30 Apr 1903 Mold, Flintshire, Wales
nameMargaret Anne MillingtoneventBaptismevent date30 Apr 1903event placeMold, Flintshire, Wales


Mary Millington
Wales, Flintshire, Parish Registers, 1538-1912
baptism 22 Aug 1904 Mold, Flintshire, Wales
nameMary MillingtoneventBaptismevent date22 Aug 1904event placeMold, Flintshire, Wales


Harold Millington
Wales, Flintshire, Parish Registers, 1538-1912
baptism 30 Dec 1909 Mold, Flintshire, Wales
nameHarold MillingtoneventBaptismevent date30 Dec 1909event placeMold, Flintshire, Wales



The above baptisms were found on this free site.......

https://familysearch.org/

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Feb 2013 10:21

Possibly 2 more children.......

Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
Millington Katherine Jones Holywell 11b 356


Births Sep 1915 (>99%)
Millington John Jones Holywell 11b 350

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Feb 2013 10:30

I have PM'd Hayley to help her find her way back to this thread.

Prickles.

hayley

hayley Report 6 Feb 2013 17:19

Hi everyone thank you so much for the replys wow! First of all I did mean Honeywell haha Edward was married to Elizabeth that's correct I looked on the 1911 census and could not find him :( his full name is edward Wilfred Millington I have found that edward Morris before but can't be the same man ? My dad died when I was 3 so I've done this to find a bit of history as my father and his siblings were separated early on in childhood.I know my grandparents were edward Wilfred and Elizabeth like above and I have found my grandmothers parents but not my grandfather wow this is exciting but confusing lol thanks again everyone for your help :) hayley x :-D

Dea

Dea Report 6 Feb 2013 18:37

But Hayley,

If you look, the baptism I posted above is for Edward WILFRED and he was the son of Thomas and Jane - the same address and occupation as the family on 1911 posted by Choccy where he is shown as Edward Morris which is obviously a mistake.

It's no wonder that they got the middle names mixed up with 8 children to sort out ! ;-). :-D

I am sure that you will find that he is 'your man' if you look again at what has been posted.

Dea Xxx

hayley

hayley Report 6 Feb 2013 19:47

Oh I see so edward Morris is edward Wilfred? Because I can also find a birth cert for edward Morris lol thank u for helping me as you can tell I'm a complete beginner at this haha :-S xx

Dea

Dea Report 6 Feb 2013 19:53

We all have to learn Hayley ;-)

Just as a matter of interest - you say you have found a birth for Edward Morris Millington? - Can you post the reference for this please or say where you have found it?

Dea x

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Feb 2013 20:23

Hi Hayley

Pleased to see you found your way back to this thread. ;-)

As Dea said.........i too am sure that you will find this is your man.

I am not seeing a birth registered for an Edward M (Morris) Milington in 1907 Holywell.

hayley

hayley Report 6 Feb 2013 20:24

Even not sure how to do that but I found it on birth reg search on here when I searched for edward Millington born 1907 x :-)