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Ok thanks everyone for trying to help
Carol

The original census returns for 1861 and 1871 were destroyed shortly after the censuses were taken. Those for 1881 and 1891 were pulped during the First World War, probably because of the paper shortage. The returns for 1821, 1831, 1841 and 1851 were, apart from a few survivals, notably for a few counties for 1821 and 1831, destroyed in 1922 in the fire at the Public Record Office at the beginning of the Civil War.



Regards Vera

Unfortunately the 1861 census records for Ireland have been destroyed.

Regards Vera

As Kathleen has suggested they could have been on a visit to Ireland.

Regards Vera

I suppose it is possible they went to Ireland for a visit - does anyone know if there are any Irish Census records on line

Both the entries I have put on come from the marriage cert and the birth cert.
I also have the details of their other two children but were on earth were they in 1861

Kathleen it certainly looks like you might be right. So far no luck.


Regards Vera

Could they have gone back to Ireland to visit Ellen's relatives and not been in England for the census in 1861?

Kath. x

There was an Ellen Ainscough living in Liverpool in the 1851 census but she was born in Manchester - not Ireland so more likely to be Ellen Brady who married John Alexander in 1954 - although obviously only the certificate would confirm this.

EDIT - confirmed by the previous post.

Kath. x

17 July 1854 at the Parish Church, Liverpool by Banns: (LBMD states Liverpool St Peter)
JOHN ALEXANDER, age full, bachelor, profession Joiner, of Sparling Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, map ref: R11 page 33, fathers name ROBERT, profession Sawyer, married ELLEN BRADY, age full, spinster of Sparling Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, father JOHN BRADY boatman. JOHN has signed the marriage register, ELLEN has signed with an X

and Ann Janes Birth

ANN JANE ALEXANDER, born 2 July 1856, father JOHN ALEXANDER occupation Journeyman Joiner, mother ELLEN ALEXANDER (formally Brady), living at 6 court, Fisher Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire.

I have been looking for this Census for a few years and have got nowhere
Carol

Could this be their marriage.....


Marriages Sep 1854 (>99%)
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Alexander John Liverpool 8b 30
Brady Ellen Liverpool 8b 30



EDIT It is Brady






Births Sep 1856 (>99%)
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Alexander Ann Jane W. Derby 8b 270




Regards Vera

Is this them in 1881 please?

Name: Ann Jane Alexander
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Alexander
Mother's Name: Ellen Alexander
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 54 Copperas Hill
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Seaman's Wife

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Mount Pleasant
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3620
Folio: 69
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
John Alexander 48 Joiner, b. Scotland
Ellen Alexander 47 b. IReland
Ann Jane Alexander 24
William Alexander 16 son, b. Liverpool
William Augustine Alexander, 6 months, Grandaughter(?) but age in male Column, b. Liverpool

Found them in 1871....but like Shirley no luck so far with them in 1861

Regards Vera

Hi All
Yes the surname is Alexander and in 1871 and 1881 they were living in Copperas Hill.
Sorry about the delay my computer keeps freezing

Richard, when did John and Ellen marry? Just wondering if Ann might have been born before this?
Jan

not seeing them

1871
for ref

Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where born Image
ALEXANDER, John Head M 37 1834 Paisley VIEW
ALEXANDER, Ellen Wife F 34 1837 Ireland VIEW
ALEXANDER, Ann J Daughter F 14 1857 Lancashire VIEW
ALEXANDER, William B Son M 0 1871 Lancashire VIEW
Piece: 3781
Folio: 40
Page: 18
Registration District: Liverpool
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Municipal Borough: Liverpool
Address: Copperas Hill, Liverpool
County: Lancashire




Regards Vera

Where are they living in the 1871 census?

Kath. x

Is Alexander their surname?

Hi
Can anyone help me find the following on the 1861 Census:

John Alexander born c.1832, Joiner or journey joiner, born Paisley, Scotland, Ellen his wife born c.1832 in Dublin, daughter Ann Jane born 1856 Liverpool. As far as I am aware this is the only child at this time who would appear in 1861.
I have got the Census records for 1871,81 and 91.
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards
Carol