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MYSTERY SOLVED THANKS TO ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

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patchem

patchem Report 15 Feb 2013 21:48

As they have several children born abroad, then surely they could be abroad in 1851?

Mary

Mary Report 15 Feb 2013 21:46

1881 Tranmere cheshire D2 >35
Thomas Burke 1853 railway clerk born Walmer kent
Martha 1854 Davenport
Thomas son 1877 scotland
Patrick Burke 18 born 1863 Manchester (same as on 1871 census above)
So it looks like the same family!

Maryb.

trailertrash

trailertrash Report 15 Feb 2013 20:46

They are in Banf, Gamrie in 1881 and 1891 but I cannot find them on the earlier census either.

George_of_Westbury

George_of_Westbury Report 15 Feb 2013 20:43

For ref. is this the record you found? Although i cant see them on the 1861 England census either on Anc. or FMP

1871 scotland census,

1871 census transcription details for: Banks, Old Deer
Print Close National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 228
Folio: 1
Page: 13
Reg. District: Deer
Sub District:
Parish: Old Deer
Enum. District: 1
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Banks, Old Deer
County: Aberdeenshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
BURKE, Thomas Head Married M 41 1830 Railwy Porter & Pensioner Ireland Galway
BURKE, Mary A Wife Married F 33 1838 Porter's Wife Rossshire
BURKE, William Son M 11 1860 Scholar West Indies Barbadoes
BURKE, John Son M 8 1863 Scholar England Portsmouth
BURKE, Patrick Son M 6 1865 Scholar England Manchester
BURKE, James Son M 5 1866 East Indies Desa
BURKE, Kenneth Son M 3 1868 East Indies Desa
BURKE, Alexander F Son M 1 1870 Strichen, Aberdeenshire

George

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 15 Feb 2013 20:01

Have you looked for any earlier births of possible children....and maybe deaths?

8 years after marriage seems quite a long time before the birth of Thomas b. Walmer, so can you be sure they are the same couples?

All the places named could have military connections though...................

Gwyn

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 15 Feb 2013 19:52

You could search FindMyPast to see if there are any discharge papers for him in Ref WO97. If his papers have survived, they would tell you when he was discharged although probably won't mention his family, but may tell you where he was going to live.

Margee

Margee Report 15 Feb 2013 19:50

Are you sure he didn't marry Maria Timmuchi? From Isle of Wight BMDs:

Year Groom Surname Forename(s) Bride Surname Forename(s) Place Register
held Ref
1849 BURKE Thomas TIMMUCHI Maria St Thomas's Catholic Chapel, Newport With Registrar RO3/92

But Tinnuchi on FreeBMD:

Marriages Jun 1849 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Burke Thomas I of Wight 8 413
Tinnuchi Maria I of Wight 8 413

Alan

Alan Report 15 Feb 2013 19:40

I would welcome any advice as to whether U think I am correct in my thinking. In 1849 0n the Isle of Wight Thomas Burke born c1829 Ireland marrried Mary Louisa Frances Tennes born 1st July 1833 Edinburgh. Thomas was in the Army and was based at Parkhurst Barracks on the IOW.
Now the conumdrem starts. There is no census record that I can find on the 1851 be it in England or Scotland.

A Thomas and Mary Burke are to be found on the 1861 UK census at Aldershot Hampshire with 2 sons. Thomas b 1857 Walmer Kent and William b1860 West Indies. Thomas was still in the Army.

In 1871 a Thomas Burke and Mary are found in Scotland with the same children but he is now a Railway Porter with a pension. Would this be an army pension. The only thing different is that Mary is named as Mary A Burke.

In the 1881 Scottish census again Mary is listed as Mary Ann again as she is in the 1891 census.

Am I clutching at straws? The same children born in India appear on the census'. I don't have access to the Scotish census as they are not on Ancestry.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Many Thanks
Alan :-S :-S