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MrsNick
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22 Feb 2013 08:55 |
Trying to trace the Cass family the only information I have is Charles Cass whos son Frank Cass who married Mary Burns whos parents were from Ireland.
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MarieCeleste
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22 Feb 2013 09:02 |
Hello MrsNick - can you give us an idea of timescale?
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MrsNick
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22 Feb 2013 09:04 |
Frank and Mary were married in 1910, Charles was deceased by this time
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MarieCeleste
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22 Feb 2013 09:08 |
Just posting 1911 for our reference:
CASS, Frank Head Married M 25 1886 Carter Leeds Yorks CASS, Mary Wife Married1 years F 26 1885 Button Hole Machinist Leeds Yorks
RG number: RG14 Piece: 26958 Reference: RG14PN26958 RG78PN1547 RD500 SD2 ED15 SN171 Registration District: Leeds Sub District: North Leeds Enumeration District: 15 Parish: Leeds
Address: 53 Middle Fold Leeds County: Yorkshire (West riding)
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MarieCeleste
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22 Feb 2013 09:16 |
Possible 1891:
CASS, Charles Head Married M 46 1845 Hawker York CASS, Emma Wife Married F 39 1852 Sicklinghall, Yorkshire CASS, Mary E Daughter Single F 17 1874 Leeds CASS, Charles Son M 6 1885 Leeds CASS, Frank Son M 4 1887 Leeds CASS, Lily Daughter F 2 1889 Leeds OSBOURN, George H Lodger Single M 18 1873 Whitewasher Leeds
Piece: 3684 Folio: 136 Page: 24 Registration District: Leeds Civil Parish: Leeds Municipal Borough: Leeds
Address: 16, Copper Street, Leeds County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
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MarieCeleste
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22 Feb 2013 09:20 |
Who were the witnesses on the marriage certificate? Although Charles was deceased, did it give a former occupation for him?
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MarieCeleste
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22 Feb 2013 09:30 |
The 1881 for that family shows a different birth year for Charles:
CASS, Charles Head Married M 32 1849 Labourer York, Yorkshire CASS, Emma Wife Married F 30 1851 Sicklinghall, Yorkshire CASS, Rachel Daughter Single F 9 1872 Scholar Leeds, Yorkshire CASS, Mary E Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar Leeds, Yorkshire CASS, Ester A Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar Leeds, Yorkshire CASS, Charlotte Daughter Single F 3 1878 Leeds, Yorkshire CASS, Alice Daughter Single F 1 1880 Leeds, Yorkshire
Piece: 4511 Folio: 115 Page: 10
Registration District: Leeds Civil Parish: Leeds
Address: 7, Steander Row, Leeds County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Given that birth year, this is a possible death:
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Sep 1905 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CASS Charles 56 Leeds 9b 2_6
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MarieCeleste
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22 Feb 2013 10:31 |
pm from Ann:
"On the marriage cert, Charles was a fruit hawker and the wittnesses were John William Gibbons and Esther Binns. They were married on 16/04/1910"
So it looks like that census is a contender .....
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MarieCeleste
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22 Feb 2013 10:34 |
This looks like the marriage of Ester on the 1881 census:
West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
Name: Esther Cass Birth Year: abt 1876 Age: 20 Marriage or Bann Date: 26 Sep 1896 Parish: Leeds, St Edmund Father's Name: Charles Cass - Hawker Spouse's Name: Joseph Binns (23) - Labourer Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Binns (deceased) Turner ?
Neither married before. Address for both 15 Grantham Street.
Witnesses: Simon Holmes & Rachel Haigh
(So she would be the Ester Binns who was a witness to Frank's marriage).
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ErikaH
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22 Feb 2013 10:38 |
Have you tried.................................
http://www.freebmd.org.uk
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ErikaH
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22 Feb 2013 10:42 |
1891 England Census about Charles Cass Name: Charles Cass Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emma Cass [Mary A Cass] Gender: Male Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Leeds Ecclesiastical parish: St Edmunds County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: South East Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3684 Folio: 136 Page Number: 24 Household Members: Name Age Charles Cass 46 Emma Cass 39 Mary E Cass 17 Charles Cass 6 Frank Cass 4 Lily Cass 2 George H Osbourn 18 Mary A Cass 39 Charles Cass 10 Kitty Cass 3 Henry Cass 1 Holmes Helmsley 40 Alice Helmsley 39 George Helmsley 16 Sarah Helmsley 12 Herbert Helmsley 8 Minnie Helmsley 5 Thomas Helmsley 2 William Helmsley 3 Weeks
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ErikaH
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22 Feb 2013 10:42 |
1851 England Census about Chas Cass Name: Chas Cass Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Son Father's Name: Chas Cass Mother's name: Elizth Cass Gender: M (Male) Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil parish: York St Sampson County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: York Sub-registration district: Skelton ED, institution, or vessel: 18b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 49 Piece: 2353 Folio: 461 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Chas Cass 27 Elizth Cass 24 Sarah Cass 6 Chas Cass 5 Jno Cass 10 Mo Elizth Greggs 48 Christiana Greggs 15 Hannah Greggs 13
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ErikaH
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22 Feb 2013 10:43 |
1861 England Census about Charles Cass Name: Charles Cass Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation: Son Father's Name: Charles Cass Mother's name: Elizabeth Cass Gender: Male Where born: York, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Leeds Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: Leeds County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: North Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 34 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 65 Piece: 3382 Folio: 9 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Charles Cass 36 Elizabeth Cass 35 Sarah Cass 15 Charles Cass 14 John Cass 11 George Cass 7 Elizabeth Cass 5 Francis Cass 1 4 Months
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MrsNick
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22 Feb 2013 10:45 |
Frank lived in 4 Shannon St and Mary lived in 45 Middle Fold both in Leeds. I believe they lived at 53 Middle Fold Leeds after their marriage. Certainly their daughter Annie was born there on 20/03/1912. I don't know if there was any other syblings.
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ErikaH
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22 Feb 2013 10:48 |
You haven't said what you're looking for.............
Do you want to trace Frank's ancestry?
If you're looking for siblings for Annie, it's easy...............MMN is on the index after 1911
Look at freebmd............URL posted above
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MrsNick
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22 Feb 2013 16:39 |
Hi Reggie many thanks for all the info, St Edmunds rings a bell, is Emma Cass and Mary A Cass the same person (1891)? Yes I,m trying to trace Frank's ancestry. I've got as far as Shannon St as Frank's address on the day he was married. Presumeably he was living with his parents at this time and I would like to find out his father Charles' ancestry. Hope I manage to get this to my threads!
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ErikaH
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22 Feb 2013 16:45 |
How much more do you want with regard to Charles?
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ErikaH
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22 Feb 2013 16:48 |
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 Name: Charles Cass Gender: Male Birth Date: 2 Apr 1824 Christening Date: 4 Apr 1824 Christening Place: York, Yorkshire, England Age at Christening: 0 Father's Name: George Cass Mother's name: Sarah --------------------------------------------------------------------------
1841 England Census about George Cass Name: George Cass Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 Gender: Male Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil parish: St Sampson Hundred: York County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: York Sub-registration district: Bootham Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1355 Book: 12 Folio: 20 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age George Cass 40 Sarah Cass 35 Charles Cass 15 ---------------------------------------------------------------
West Yorkshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, Name: George Cass Event Date: 14 Jun 1801 Event Type: Christening (Baptism) Parish: Thornhill, St Michael and All Angels Father's Name: John Cass
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MarieCeleste
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22 Feb 2013 16:48 |
Hi again MrsNick - I don't think Emma and Mary Ann are the same person - the 1891 that Reggie posted has wrong information. That transcription has copied in another family and called them Cass, plus the Helmsleys - they all lived at number 14.
The correct version of the 1891 is the one I originally posted earlier at the top of your thread.
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MrsNick
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26 Feb 2013 18:10 |
Many thanks Reggie for all the info going to compare with other details.
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