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Helen Mary Williamson 1922 Lerwick Shetland

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Victoria

Victoria Report 24 Feb 2013 10:03

Hi,

I'm trying to find out more information about Helen's family focussing on her parents and siblings:
John Williamson (Helen's Father) - possible middle name of 'stove',
Married Jemima Clark (Helen's mother)
Helen was born in 'Charlotte Cottage' in or near Lerwick
Had at least one other daughter
Died before 1945 when Helen married Alexander Brown Leslie in Thurso

Any help would be very much apprechiated!

Vicki

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Feb 2013 10:15

You need to use Scotlandspeople website (pay to view) to look for John's marriage to Jemima. The marriage certificate will give his age and parents' names including his mother's maiden surname.

Potty

Potty Report 24 Feb 2013 10:20

You will need to use scotlandspeople site to find the birth certs of Helen and her sibling. As the births are less than 100 years ago, you will have to order the cert.

That cert will give you the date and place of her parents' marriage to give an idea of when to start searching for siblings.

The marriage cert will give you her parents' ages and their parents' names and then you can start looking for them on the census.

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 24 Feb 2013 10:23

Assuming they stayed in Scotland, you'd need to search on Scotlandspeople.

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/welcome.aspx

On a free search there is one death for a John Stove Williamson 1922-1945. You'd have to pay to view both the index entry and if its a possible, the DC

If John Williamson died prior to 1945, he might just about served in WW2 - check the Commonwealth War Graves Commission without specifying a 'Service' in case he was in the Merchant Marines, or one of the Civilian deaths.

http://www.cwgc.org/

Potty

Potty Report 24 Feb 2013 10:25

No marriage coming up for a John Williamson to a Jemima Clark 1911-1922. Two coming up for John Williamson to Jemima.

Potty

Potty Report 24 Feb 2013 10:57

Playing around with the year of death and ages for the death that Det found, he died in 1942 aged 63, so DOB 1878/79 - there is birth on scotlandspeople in 1879

Potty

Potty Report 24 Feb 2013 10:59

The marriage is also on scotlandspeople, before 1910

Potty

Potty Report 24 Feb 2013 11:05

1891 Census:

1891 Scotland Census
about John S Williamson
Name: John S Williamson
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Bryden Williamson
Mother's name: Helen C Williamson
Gender: Male
Where born: Lerwick, Shetland
Registration number: 9
Registration district: Sandsting and Aithsting
Civil parish: Sandsting and Aithsting
County: Shetland
Address: Bixter
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 9
Household schedule number: 22
Line: 6
Roll: CSSCT1891_3
Household Members: Name Age
Bryden Williamson 34
Helen C Williamson 38
John S Williamson 11
Helen J S Williamson 10
Bryden Williamson 8 - b England
Mary Ann G B Williamson 3
Thomas Henry 13


Potty

Potty Report 24 Feb 2013 11:11

There are two or three John Williamsons born about the same time on the census - the death cert will give you your John's parents to confirm which one

Potty

Potty Report 24 Feb 2013 11:15

In this census, Helen is a seaman's wife - in the 1891 Bryden is a Grocer's shopman!

1881 Scotland Census
about Helen Williamson
Name: Helen Williamson
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relationship: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Lerwick, Shetland
Registration number: 5
Registration district: Lerwick and Gulberwick
Civil parish: Lerwick and Gulberwick
County: Shetland
Address: 3 Charlotte Lane
Occupation: Seaman'S Wife
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 136
Line: 8
Roll: cssct1881_2
Household Members: Name Age
Helen Williamson 30
John Williamson 18 Mos
Hellen T Williamson 4 Mos


Potty

Potty Report 24 Feb 2013 11:21

Scotlandspeople has a marriage for Bryden Williamson to Helen Stove in 1877, Shetland

Potty

Potty Report 24 Feb 2013 11:22

1871 Scotland Census
about Bryden Williamson
Name: Bryden Williamson
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Gilbert Williamson
Mother's name: Mary Ann Williamson
Gender: Male
Where born: Aithsting, zetland
Registration number: 9
Registration district: Sandsting and Aithsting
Civil parish: Sandsting and Aithsting
County: Shetland
Address: Schoolhouse
Occupation: Schoolmaster's Son
ED: 9
Household schedule number: 44
Line: 22
Roll: CSSCT1871_2
Household Members: Name Age
Gilbert Williamson 45
Mary Ann Williamson 42
Jessie Manson 20
Bryden Williamson 14
Zashariah M H Williamson 12
Mary Ann Williamson 10
Williamina Rose Williamson 5
Jamima Helen B S Williamson 1
Elizabeth Hawick 19


Potty

Potty Report 24 Feb 2013 11:28

From familysearch:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQR6-GVP
name: Bryden Williamson
gender: Male
baptism/christening date:
baptism/christening place:
birth date: 09 Aug 1856
birthplace: SANDSTING AND AITHSTING,SHETLAND,SCOTLAND
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Gilbert Williamson
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Mary Ann Bryden
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C11009-1
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 6035516
reference number:

There are other baptisms for the family on the same site:

https://familysearch.org/

You could also search on there for marriages, upto about 1875

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 24 Feb 2013 11:31

Internet search for 'John Stove Williamson' gives 3 results to follow up - all may be irrelevant or fit in somewhere along the line

Shetland Times Marriages 1936 - 1940 Page 1 of 20 Publication ...
www.jghalcrow.co.uk/stindex/files/marr1936_40.pdf
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
Williamson. Westsandwick. 22. 4. 1936. Shetland Times 9/5/1936. John N .... 1936. Shetland Times 28/11/1936 John William. Peterson. Mary Ann. Stove ...

Stove, Stow: Marriages, Caithness, Orkney & Shetland International ...
www.cursiter.com/txt-exe-files/Stovemar.txt
M: 9 Feb 1765 Spouse: John TAITT Deerness, Orkney, Scotland Ann STOVE (F). ... M: 7 Oct 1828 Spouse: Laurence WILLIAMSON Northmaven, Shetland, ...

RootsWeb: SCT-SHETLAND-L Thomas Spence/Catherine Moar family
archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com › SCT-SHETLAND › 2000-08
Aug 16, 2000 – Mother - Elizabeth Omond MS Stove, decd. Spouse - John Williamson, fisherman, decd. Children - 1. Elizabeth, 51 2. Tamar, 47 (married Henry ...

Potty

Potty Report 24 Feb 2013 11:41

Possible for Jemima - the marriage cert will confirm her parents' names:

1901 Scotland Census
about Jamima Clark
Name: Jamima Clark
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: Robert Clark
Mother's name: Andrina Clark
Gender: Female
Where born: Delting, shetland
Registration number: 2
Registration district: Delting
Civil parish: Delting
County: Shetland
Address: Bargains
Occupation: Knitter
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 30
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1901_1
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Clark 57
Andrina Clark 47
Margaret A Clark 24
Jamima Clark 18
Williamina Clark 15

Andrina's maiden name may have been Nicholson:

1891 Scotland Census
about Authur Nicolson
Name: Authur Nicolson
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relationship: Brother-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Delting, Shetland
Registration number: 2
Registration district: Delting
Civil parish: Delting
County: Shetland
Address: Bergens
Occupation: Pauper
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 48
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1891_1
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Clark 47
Andrina Clark 39
Margaret A Clark 14
Janet Clark 12
Robert Clark 11
Jemima Clark 9
Willa Clark 4
Authur Nicolson 37


mgnv

mgnv Report 24 Feb 2013 14:53

Potty - re:

"indexing project (batch) number: C11009-1
...
There are other baptisms for the family on the same site":

Scottish batch #s of the form C11ppp-1 or C11ppp-3 are not baptism records, but extracted from the GROS index of births (sim M11ppp-1 and M11ppp-3 are extracted from the GROS index of marrs) Here ppp is the parish #, 009 for Sandsting and Aithsting, as we can see from your census transcription post.

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 24 Feb 2013 15:58

Checking on SP
Marriage between John Williamson and Jemima Clark is registered in Lerwick, Shetland 1910.
Edit:
John Stove Williamson.
Death recorded in Lerwick 1942 and was 63yrs old.

Apologies Potty
I see you already posted this!

Victoria

Victoria Report 25 Feb 2013 18:15

Thank you so much guys! I've been able to find a lot more with the sites you've recommended :-)

This side of the family looks a lot healthier on my tree now :-)

Potty

Potty Report 26 Feb 2013 09:21

You're welcome, Victoria. Come back if you need any more help.

alviegal

alviegal Report 26 Feb 2013 14:28

John Stove WILLIAMSON
Male 1879 - 1942

Birth 1879 Lerwick, SHI, SCT Find all individuals with events at this location [1]
Gender Male
Occupation Merchant Seaman
Died 6 Sep 1942 Emergency Hospital, Tingwall, SHI, SCT Find all individuals with events at this location
Person ID I116508 Shetland
Last Modified 01 Aug 2011

Father Bryden WILLIAMSON, b. 9 Aug 1856, Twatt, Aithsting, SHI, SCT Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 27 Apr 1922, Gilbert Bain Hospital, Lerwick, SHI, SCT Find all individuals with events at this location
Mother Helen Charlotte STOVE, b. 1849, Lerwick, SHI, SCT Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 17 Dec 1925, Charlotte Cottage, Charlotte Street, Lerwick, SHI, SCT Find all individuals with events at this location
Married 1 Feb 1877 Lerwick, SHI, SCT Find all individuals with events at this location
Family ID F26874 Group Sheet

Family 1 Matilda Helen MANSON, b. 29 Jan 1878, Roadside Cottage, Humalees, Sandsting, SHI, SCT Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 25 Oct 1909, St. Olaf Street, Lerwick, SHI, SCT Find all individuals with events at this location
Married 27 Nov 1906 Church of Scotland Manse, Lewick, SHI, SCT Find all individuals with events at this location
Children
> 1. John Bryden WILLIAMSON, b. 28 Jul 1907, 28 Burns Lane, Lerwick, SHI, SCT Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 7 Jan 1980
2. Living
Family ID F39438 Group Sheet

Family 2 Jemima CLARK, b. 30 Jul 1878, Clothie, North Roe, Northmavine, SHI, SCT Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 21 Oct 1962, Brevik Hospital, Lerwick, SHI, SCT Find all individuals with events at this location
Married 15 Dec 1910 Church of Scotland Manse, Lerwick, SHI, SCT Find all individuals with events at this location
Children
> 1. Charles Stove WILLIAMSON, b. 16 Apr 1911, Ivy Cottage, Charlotte Street, Lerwick, SHI, SCT Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 14 Oct 1992, Gilbert Bain Hospital, Lerwick, SHI, SCT Find all individuals with events at this location
2. Living
3. Living



Jemima CLARK
Female 1878 - 1962

Birth 30 Jul 1878 Clothie, North Roe, Northmavine, SHI, SCT Find all individuals with events at this location [1]
Gender Female
Baptised 16 Jan 1879 Methodist Chapel, North Roe, Northmavine, SHI, SCT Find all individuals with events at this location [1]
Died 21 Oct 1962 Brevik Hospital, Lerwick, SHI, SCT Find all individuals with events at this location
Person ID I116507 Shetland
Last Modified 11 Jul 2008

Father Arthur CLARK, b. 27 Jan 1845, Brevligarth, Northmavine, SHI, SCT d. 25 Feb 1902, Clothie, North Roe, Northmavine, SHI, SCT
Mother Ann JOHNSON, b. 12 Oct 1843, Collafirth, Northmavine, SHI, SCT Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 29 Feb 1928, 7a St. Magnus Street, Lerwick, SHI, SCT
Married 19 Jan 1871 Lerwick, SHI, SCT
Family ID F28093 Group Sheet


From this absolutely invaluable site for Shetland information.

http://www.bayanne.info/Shetland/