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edith ishmael b 1939 ashton

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Unknown

Unknown Report 27 Feb 2013 14:56

im looking for information on my grandmother edith ishmael b 1939 ashton and also her parents ,brothers or sisters? she married edward sinnott in ashton in 1958 and emigrated to australia with her huband, children and brother in law between 1964-67? any help would be greatly appreciated

Unknown

Unknown Report 27 Feb 2013 15:09

i think her parents names are violet whitehead and richard ishmael??

Helen

Helen Report 27 Feb 2013 15:10

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Richard Ishmael
Name: Richard Ishmael
Spouse Surname: Whitehead
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1938
Registration district: Ashton
Inferred County: Lancashire, Cheshire
Volume Number: 8d
Page Number: 1470
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

Violet Whitehead

Gins

Gins Report 27 Feb 2013 15:12

1911 England Census
Name: Richard Ishmael
Age in 1911: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Ashton Under Lyne
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 1 Kent St Ashton Under Lyne
Occupation: School
Registration district: Ashton under Lyne
Registration District Number: 468
Sub-registration district: Ashton Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Piece: 24355
Household Members: Name Age
John Ishmael 39 <<Coal miner from Manchester
Sarah Ishmael 36
Maragret Ishmael 16
Marg Ishmael 10
Richard Ishmael 8
Sarah Ishmael 4


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Richard Ishmael
Name: Richard Ishmael
Birth Date: abt 1903
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1940
Age at Death: 37
Registration district: Ashton
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 1145

Helen

Helen Report 27 Feb 2013 15:17

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Violet Ishmael
Name: Violet Ishmael
Spouse Surname: Williams
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1946
Registration district: Ashton
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 195
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

Thomas Williams

Reggie

Reggie Report 27 Feb 2013 15:33

Use freebmd to find info about any siblings Edith may have had...........

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

We can't post the details on here........they are likely to be living.

EDIT

There seems to be one........and her birth raises interesting questions

Mike *

Mike * Report 27 Feb 2013 15:59

Looks like Edith was actually Edith J.

Reggie

Reggie Report 27 Feb 2013 16:10

Richard was married before................

Marriages Jun 1922 (>99%)
HIGHAM Hannah Ishmael Ashton 8d 952
Ishmael Richard Higham Ashton 8d 952

Deaths Sep 1928 (>99%)
Ishmael Hannah 29 Ashton 8d 630

Look on freebmd for possible children..........they were half-siblings to Edith

EDIT

There was one

Unknown

Unknown Report 28 Feb 2013 01:18

thankyou very much :) <3

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Feb 2013 08:42

Richard died in 1940...

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Richard Ishmael
Name: Richard Ishmael
Birth Date: abt 1903
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1940
Age at Death: 37
Registration district: Ashton
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 1145





Transcribed as Ishmeal on FMP

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: ISHMEAL, Richard
Address: 14 Kent St Ashton U Lyne Lancashire

ISHMEAL, John Head Married17 years M 49 1862 Coal Miner Hewer Lanc Manchester VIEW
ISHMEAL, Sarah Wife Married17 years F 36 1875 Ring Spinner Lanc Ashton under Lyne VIEW
ISHMEAL, Maragaret Daughter Single F 16 1895 Ring Spinner Lanc Ashton under Lyne VIEW
ISHMEAL, Mary Daughter Single F 10 1901 School Lanc Ashton under Lyne VIEW
ISHMEAL, Richard Son M 8 1903 School Lanc Ashton under Lyne VIEW
ISHMEAL, Sarah Daughter F 4 1907 Lanc Ashton under Lyne VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 24355
Reference: RG14PN24355 RD468 SD3 ED16 SN193
Registration District: Ashton under Lyne
Sub District: Ashton Town
Enumeration District: 16
Parish: Ashton under Lyne
Address: 14 Kent St Ashton U Lyne Lancashire
County: Lancashire

I thought that you might be interested to know that it states......

10 children born, 4 living, 6 had died.


Marriages Mar 1895 (>99%)
Ishmael John Ashton 8d 613
McDermott Sarah Ashton 8d 613


I can't for the life of me find this family in 1901.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Feb 2013 09:35

There are 4 Ashmael infant deaths registered in Ashton between 1895 and 1911.

Births Jun 1897 (>99%)
Ishmael Ellen Ashton 8d 479

Deaths Sep 1897 (>99%)
Ishmael Ellen 0 Ashton 8d 395


Births Jun 1898 (>99%)
ISHMAEL John Ashton 8d 495

Deaths Sep 1899 (>99%)
Ishmael John 1 Ashton 8d 444


Births Mar 1900 (>99%)
Ishmael Frank Ashton 8d 519

Deaths Jun 1900 (>99%)
Ishmael Frank 0 Ashton 8d 401


Births Dec 1906 (>99%)
Ishmael Norah Ashton 8d 481


Deaths Jun 1907 (>99%)
ISHMAEL Norah 0 Ashton 8d 341

It could be that the other two children were stillbirths and so their births were not registered.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Feb 2013 10:43

??

1891 England Census
about Sarah McDermott
Name: Sarah McDermott
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Anthony McDermott
Mother's name: Mary McDermott
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashton Under Lyme, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Ashton under Lyne
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Ashton under Lyne
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration district: Ashton Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3278
Folio: 57
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Anthony McDermott 50
Mary McDermott 48
Mary McDermott 26
John McDermott 21
Michael McDermott 18
Sarah McDermott 16
Margaret McDermott 11
Edward McDermott 8
James Dermott 13
Elizabeth Thomas 22 (Boarder)
(All born Ashton Under Lyne)



1881 England Census
about Anthony Mc Dermott
Name: Anthony Mc Dermott
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Mc Dermott
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashton U Lyne, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Ashton Under Lyne
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 86 Brook Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Cotton Self Actor Minder

Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration district: Ashton Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4039
Folio: 117
Page Number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
Anthony Mc Dermott 41 (Cotton Self Acting Minder)
Mary Mc Dermott 41
Mary Mc Dermott 19
Ellen Mc Dermott 15
John Thos. Mc Dermott 13
Anthony Mc Dermott 10
Michael Mc Dermott 8
Sarah Mc Dermott 5
James Mc Dermott 4
Margaret Mc Dermott 2


1871 England Census
about Anthony McDermott
Name: Anthony McDermott
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary McDermott
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashton Under Lyme, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Ashton under Lyne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration district: Ashton Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 97
Piece: 4069
Folio: 129
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Anthony McDermott 32 (Self Acting Minder Cotton)
Mary McDermott 26 Ireland
Mary McDermott 7
Ellen McDermott 5
John T McDermott 3
Anthony McDermott 6 Months
Ellen Mannion 58 Widow (Mother in Law) Ireland
Bridget Mannion 23 (Sister in Law) Ireland
Thomas Mannion 19 (Brother in Law) Ireland


Deaths Dec 1864 (>99%)
Manion Michael Ashton 8d 299



1861 England Census
about Anthony McDernott
Name: Anthony McDernott
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Son-in-law
Spouse's Name: Mary McDernott
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashton Under Lyme

Civil parish: Ashton under Lyne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Ashton under Lyne
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration district: Ashton Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 143
Piece: 2980
Folio: 57
Page Number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
Michael Manion 52
Ellen Manion 51
Antony Manion 26
Bridgett Manion 16
Mary McDernott 18 (Married) Ireland
Anthony McDernott 23 (Married) Self Acting Minder
Thomas McDernott 9


England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
about Anthony MacDermot
Name: Anthony MacDermot
Gender: Male
Father's Name: Anthony MacDermot
Spouse's Name: Mary Manion
Spouse's Age: 20
Spouse's Father's Name: Michael Manion
Marriage Date: 5 Jun 1859
Marriage Place: Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England