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Joseph Thomas Cartwright

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jax

jax Report 28 Feb 2013 17:14

Thank you for your pm Neil

So he did have one child at least....maybe there were others?? but unless he mentioned them in his will (which he may have of course) it would be vertually impossible to trace

This thread maybe of use should you wish to go down that route

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1235425

Unknown

Unknown Report 28 Feb 2013 16:49

Many, many thanks to everyone. From the info you have supplied, it would certainly seem that Joseph did not marry, and so his direct line stops right there, which is what I was interested in. To fill in the gaps for you - he was my biological grand father. Him and my grand-mother had a baby girl (my mother), but never married, and each went their separate ways. Joseph apparently did the right thing though, and supported my grandmother until she did eventually marry the man I knew as my grandad.
Thanks again everybody, very helpful.
Regards,
Neil

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Feb 2013 08:23

Have you researched cousins who might have living descendants, Neil?

HIs father Arthur had several siblings, and Arthur's brother Wellington had children:


The 1871 Census
is provided in
association with:
1871 England Census about Arthur Cartwright
Name: Arthur Cartwright
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Packington
Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St David
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 77
Piece: 3104
Folio: 68
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Cartwright 48
Elizabeth Cartwright 47
James Cartwright 25
Arthur Cartwright 20
Edwin Cartwright 18
Wellington Cartwright 15
Selina Cartwright 12
Elizabeth Cartwright 10
Joseph Cartwright 7
George Cartwright 9 Months


1911 England Census about Wellington Herbert Carturight
Name: Wellington Herbert Carturight
[Wellington Herbert Cartwright]
Age in 1911: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Leicestershire, England
Civil parish: West Bridgford
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street Address: 10 Bridge Grove
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Leather Dresser
Registration district: Basford
Registration District Number: 429
Sub-registration district: Carlton
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Piece: 20477
Household Members:
Name Age
Wellington Herbert Carturight 56
Mary Jane Carturight 57
Leonard Percy Carturight 21
Wellington Herbert Carturight 19
Claretta Carturight 28

PS:
Wellington's daughter Claretta didn't marry; died 1963 and left her effects to brother Leonard Percy Cartwright.
I don't see a marriage for Leonard Percy.
I haven't investigated Wellington Herbert Jr.

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Daisy Claretta Cartwright
Name: Daisy Claretta Cartwright
Probate Date: 25 Apr 1963
Death Date: 24 Feb 1963
Death Place: Nottinghamshire, England
Registry: Nottinghamshire, England

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Feb 2013 07:31

true

jax

jax Report 28 Feb 2013 06:34

Sylvia

Neil has sent messages but had no replies.

It does'nt look like Arthur and Emma had children and if Joseph and Alice did not marry unlikely to be any decendants there either

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Feb 2013 06:17

To find out if anyone on GR has him in their tree ............ you have to Search Trees


You are very unlikely to get any contacts by them wandering the Boards. That rarely happens!


Go to Search at the top right

Click on Search Trees

Send a message to anyone whose tree shows they have him in it.





sylvia

jax

jax Report 28 Feb 2013 05:11

His sister's Alice's death

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Alice Cartwright
Name: Alice Cartwright
Birth Date: abt 1889
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1958
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Coalville
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 3a
Page: 414

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Alice Cartwright
Name: Alice Cartwright
Probate Date: 23 Jan 1959
Death Date: 26 May 1958
Death Place: Leicestershire, England
Registry: Nottinghamshire, England

Spinster died 26th May 1958 Admistration Nottingham to Arthur Elwyn Cartwright relief signalman effects £1051 13 5d

Think that was meant to be Edwin not Elwyn he died the same year

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Arthur E Cartwright
Name: Arthur E Cartwright
Birth Date: abt 1874
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1958
Age at Death: 84
Registration district: Basford
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 3c
Page: 29

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Arthur Edwin Cartwright
Name: Arthur Edwin Cartwright
Probate Date: 20 Jan 1959
Death Date: 17 Nov 1958
Death Place: Nottinghamshire, England
Registry: Nottinghamshire, England

To Emma Gertrude Cartwright widow £1696 3s 7d

who died

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Emma Gertrude Cartwright
Name: Emma Gertrude Cartwright
Birth Date: 29 Jun 1879
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1973
Age at Death: 93
Registration district: Basford
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 3c
Page: 106

jax

jax Report 28 Feb 2013 04:59

Looks like his death

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Joseph T Cartwright
Name: Joseph T Cartwright
Birth Date: abt 1877
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1951
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Coalville
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 3a
Page: 658

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Joseph Thomas Cartwright
Name: Joseph Thomas Cartwright
Probate Date: 25 Apr 1951
Death Date: 2 Feb 1951
Death Place: Leicestershire, England
Registry: Nottinghamshire, England

Died 2nd feb 1951 administration (with will) Nottingham 25th April to Alice Cartwright spinster £1250 15s 7d

So it does not look like he married

Unknown

Unknown Report 28 Feb 2013 04:14

Thanks to all the replies, and so quickly, I'm impressed.
Yes, I made a typo, it should be 1877 for his date of birth. Maybe I should have been a bit more specific too. All the info you have each sent, I do have. What I'm really looking for is getting more current. Did he go on to marry, if so to whom? Did they have children etc? I'm trying to get as up to date as possible, so that maybe I can make contact with any of his living relatives.
I have searched trees, and sent messages to the persons linked, but so far absolutely no replies, so I'm at a dead end, so to speak.
Once again, thanks everybody, it's appreciated.
Neil Gribby

jax

jax Report 28 Feb 2013 03:04

Welcome to the boards Neil

I think you meant 1877

This could be his birth

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Joseph Thomas Cartwright
Name: Joseph Thomas Cartwright
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1876
Registration district: Aston
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 301 (click to see others on page)

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 28 Feb 2013 00:22

1891 England Census about Arthur Cartwright
Name: Arthur Cartwright
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Fanny Cartwright
Gender: Male
Where born: Packington, Leicestershire, England
Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Nottingham South East
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2703
Folio: 51
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Cartwright 41
Fanny Cartwright 40
Arthur E Cartwright 16
Joseph T Cartwright 14
Albert Cartwright 10
Alice Cartwright 2
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Margee Report 28 Feb 2013 00:01

1911 England Census
about Joseph Thomas Cartwright Name: Joseph Thomas Cartwright
Age in 1911: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Birmingham
Civil parish: West Bridgford
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street Address: 153 Trent Boulevard W B Notts
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Leather Finisher
Registration district: Basford
Registration District Number: 429
Sub-registration district: Carlton
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Piece: 20470
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Cartwright 60
Fanny Cartwright 60
Joseph Thomas Cartwright 34
Albert Cartwright 30
Alice Cartwright 22



Penny

Penny Report 27 Feb 2013 23:35

Try searching trees using the tabs above

Unknown

Unknown Report 27 Feb 2013 23:24

Hi, I'm looking for anyone who has Joseph Cartwright in their tree, for more info on him.
He was born 1887, around Birmingham, moved to Nottingham with parents Arthur and Fanny, and had siblings Albert and Alice. All the men worked as leather finishers.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Neil Gribby