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1841 Person: BUGG, Wm Institution: Warrior Convi Court Hulk,
BUGG, Wm M 26 1815 Foreign VIEW Piece: 493 Book/Folio: 9/8 Page: 10 Registration District: Greenwich Civil Parish: Woolwich Municipal Borough: Greenwich Address: Warrior Convict Hulk, Woolwich, Greenwich County: Kent
Wrong age but born abroad
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Hi Kira
Thank you so much for your searches! You see now what I'm up against!
in the very scanty Artillery records records for Edmund Bogg - It's only half a page; it says he was in Canada for two years and Ceylon for six. He was made up to a corporal then put down to private because of coming back drunk!
Then they put him up to corporal again and he again came back drunk! No information about him being reinstated again!
As well as finding Edmund Bogg and all his family on all of the censuses except the 1841 I looked for his siblings but only found Mary Ann Bogg who married Jonathan Cunliffe on 18/10/1835. Ancestry sent my cousin Sharon Williams the info that Edmund was a witness at their wedding in Plumstead and we're pretty sure she is one of his siblings. We weren't sure for some time because she was born in Whalley, Essex but it was at one time a garrison town so it seems likely. Edmund being a witness confirms this! Sharon and I have been swopping info for years!
I had a military researcher search for John Boggs 18th century military records at Kew but he hasn't been able to find any records of the children's births. He found where John was born in 1757 in Magherafelt, Londonderry which date tied up with what my cousin said. He also found he was based in Minorca for a time which tied up with two of his sons William and George being born there. Although I gave him John Boggs date of death he hasn't been able to find that either.
I've had someone search the church records in Quebec City, Canada for children of John and Deborah but none recorded there. Apart from Quebec and Minorca we don't know where else John Boggs was sent except Plumstead!
I gave all my Bogg/Boggs info to the BOGG one name studies group in the U.K.
The man in charge told me that none of my Bogg/Boggs connect up with any other Bogg/Boggs in the U.K. except where descendents of Edmund Boggs born 1806 Sheerness connect with each other! (I presume that descendents Mary Ann Boggs who married Jonathan Cunliffe haven't gone on there!)
I think the answer now is to have someone search the church records in Plumstead for William Boggs b.1800 Minorca, George Godfrey Boggs b.1802 Minorca, Thomas Boggs b.1809 Sheerness, Caroline Boggs b.1814 I don't know where but died 1832 of cholera in Plumstead aged 118 along with her mother Deborah Boggs nee King aged 60. So those four plus my great great grandad
Edmund Bogg and his sister we do know about Mary Ann Bogg makes six children we've found so far! There are another five names out there somewhere. I think the church records in Plumstead is the only way left to go!
Best wishes
Frances
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burial register summary
last name
Bogg
first names
Henry Glanville
burial date
25 Aug 1924
authority
Royal Borough Of Greenwich - London
location
Plumstead Cemetery (Greenwich)
burial register summary
last name
Bogg
first names
John Granville
burial date
17 Feb 1909
authority
Royal Borough Of Greenwich - London
location
Plumstead Cemetery (Greenwich)
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Thank you Lady Kira for all the help you gave me on my Bogg/Boggs family!
Henry Granville Bogg was my great grandfather's brother. It is misspelt on his burial record. Granville should actually be Glanville. This keeps happening! My great grandfather was John Glanville Bogg but it is often spelt Granville on documents.
The Glanville name comes from Ann Glanville who was John Glanville Bogg and Henry Glanville Bogg's mother! She was my 2 x great grandmother. Her husband was Edmund Bogg,(who was in the Royal Artillery) father of John Glanville Bogg and Henry Glanville Bogg.
Edmund's parents were John Boggs and Deborah Duff King. John Boggs was also in the Royal Artillery.
I have FINALLY found out where this John Boggs died! Dover Castle, St. Mary's in 1826!
I still don't know what happened to John and Deborah's two sons William Bogg/s born 1800 in Minorca and George Godfrey Boggs born 1802 Minorca. I know they survived infancy because they were in the care of the Royal Artillery for five years from 1809 whilst their parents were abroad. William was nine when this happened and George was just six. George was returned to his parents care five years later and William because he was 14 was apprenticed to a Baker in Sloan Square but what happened to them after that I have no idea!!
They never appear on any census records in the UK. Nor can I find any marriage, death or burial records.
Maybe they lived abroad? Died abroad?
18th century military records don't say anything about children born to the military unlike 19th century records. So how do I find the names of the other five children?
It seems likely that other children did exist because John and Deborah Boggs were married in 1788 in Quebec City yet I can't find records of any children born to them until 1800 in Minorca! So where did John and Deborah go after Quebec and before Minorca?
Best wishes
Frances
This is definitely a very high brick wall!
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