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Help in finding marriage PLEASE

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dancingqueen

dancingqueen Report 7 Mar 2013 21:52

I have a John Moorcroft married a Hannah ? within 5 years of 1821 (Ann Moorcroft first born child baptised 01/07/1821 Redbourn, Hertfordshire), last child to this marriage Thomas Moorcroft 1829 (baptised 11/01/1829 Rebourn). By 1830 he is having his first child with another woman Caroline? this child was baptised 04/07/1830 Redbourn, Eliza Moorcroft. Am most interested in whether he actually married Caroline and if so where. If you could help would be really grateful
Thanks

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 7 Mar 2013 22:30

A maybe....

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: John Moorcroft
Spouse Name: Caroline Redd
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 31 Aug 1829
Parish: Holborn St Sepulchre
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Register

John is a widower

Witnessed by.....Stephen Redd and Mary Elizabeth Webb


Mistyx


GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 7 Mar 2013 22:32

How are you going to prove the births are all to the same man

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 7 Mar 2013 22:32

You might get a birth cert for one of the children, as this will show Caroline's maiden name:


1851 England Census about Caroline Moorcroft
Name: Caroline Moorcroft
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Moorcroft
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: St Albans, Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Redbourn
Ecclesiastical parish: Rochester
Town: Redbourn
County/Island: Hertfordshire

Registration district: St Albans
Sub-registration district: Harpenden

John Moorcroft 65
Caroline Moorcroft 44
Charles Moorcroft 20
Ebenezer Moorcroft 17
Emily Moorcroft 13
William Moorcroft 9
Elizabeth Moorcroft 7
Maria Moorcroft 5

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 7 Mar 2013 22:32

Births Mar 1846 (>99%)
Moorcraft Maria St Albans 6 477

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 7 Mar 2013 22:36

Looks like the Caroline Redd marriage might be right:

ADDED I thin the Ruds are actually Reed?

1841 England Census
Name: Thomas Morecraft
[Thomas Moorcroft]
[Thomas Morecroft]
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Gender: Male
Where born: Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Redbourn
Hundred: Cashio
County/Island: Hertfordshire

Registration district: St Albans
Sub-registration district: Harpenden

John Morecraft 55
Carolin Morecraft 35
Thomas Morecraft 11
Charles Morecraft 10
Abingor Morecraft 8
Emily Morecraft 4
Stephen Rud 33
Arthur Rud 10

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 7 Mar 2013 22:37

Eliza is baptised as Morecraft

Also an Ebenezer in 1834 as Moorcraft to John and Caroline

So a bit of confusion over spelling of surname

dancingqueen

dancingqueen Report 7 Mar 2013 22:41

Yes will get birth certificate to confirm, but that marriage is looking perfect -but London I would never of found it thinking it was in Hertfordshire


Thank you so much

dancingqueen

dancingqueen Report 7 Mar 2013 22:42

This family has been difficult to follow, as they do seem to change the spelling of surname from one cenus to the next.

dancingqueen

dancingqueen Report 7 Mar 2013 22:45

I was proving the births are all to the same man as the older children by first marriage are living with the younger children by the second marriage in cenus. But on baptisms of the children, Mother names different

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 7 Mar 2013 22:45

FMP has a record of Hannah Morecraft b. 1802, d. 1829 in Redbourne.

dancingqueen

dancingqueen Report 7 Mar 2013 22:50

Fab Beverley that all links up

dancingqueen

dancingqueen Report 7 Mar 2013 22:53

Misty

From what website please did you find that info London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 as have a couple other marriages to find that I have both names, but cant find the marriages, but of course dont expect everyone else to do the work, if I can access it

Thanks

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 7 Mar 2013 22:59

From Ancestry

If you do not have access and would like to post names on here am sure someone could help....

Mistyx

dancingqueen

dancingqueen Report 7 Mar 2013 22:59

If anybody is willing to look am looking for William Gilbert married to Martha Sims between the years 1833 and 1838 and Henry Norris to Sarah Godfrey approx c1804.

I have FMP not ancestry, and could not find them on there

Thanks

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 7 Mar 2013 23:06

The only one I can see, 22yrs to late!!

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Henry Norris
Spouse Name: Sarah Godfrey
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 26 Nov 1826
Parish: Windlesham
Borough: Parishes Not in a Borough
County: Surrey
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

Witnessed by Nathanial Williams and H Godfrey

Mistyx


dancingqueen

dancingqueen Report 7 Mar 2013 23:11

Nothing would surprise me Misty, may be Sarah is not the Mother to the children I dont have the childrens baptisms to confirm Mother and children pre1837 so can not order birth certificate to confirm, only details from the cenus, and Sarah was born in Surrey so marriage in Surrey would connect -has thrown all I have in the air, but thats fine will go back to the drawing board

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 7 Mar 2013 23:12

Not in London....?

Dorset, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921
Name: William Gilbert
Age: Full Age
Marriage or Bann Date: 30 Oct 1837
Parish: Cranborne
Father's Name: Edward Gilbert
Spouse's Name: Martha Simes
Spouse's Father's Name: William Simes

Mistyx


dancingqueen

dancingqueen Report 7 Mar 2013 23:19

Thats the one for Gilbert-definitely thanks, should have given you clue to area, but some times like the Moorcroft marriage this can be misleading and they marriage in different county etc

Have looked further at the Henry Norris/ Sarah Godfrey info I have and Sarah Godfrey is baptised in Windlesham, Surrey -so got to be there marriage, so she is not the Mother to my Henry Norris 1810 -back to the drawing board

But thank you so so much everyone, but especially Misty

xx

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 7 Mar 2013 23:19

Martha and William Gilbert married on the same day as Martha's sister, Louisa, they were witness for each other along with Thomas Clarke for both

Louisa (a minor) married John Brewer (full age).....labourer...Father..Henry Brewer

All lived in Verwood

Mistyx