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1861 census for Bradford, Yorks please

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Frances

Frances Report 15 Mar 2013 10:21

I have been sleuthing in the GR single line census again and hope I have found my Brooksbank family except there are too many potential parents to choose from!
My starting point is :-

Marriages Dec 1876
CLAPHAM Jeremiah Bradford, Y.
9b 121

Brooksbank Mary Bradford Y.
9b 121


Births Mar 1851
Brooksbank Mary Bradford Y.
23 274

1861
Brooksbank Martin 1847 Thornton Bradford, Thornton
Brooksbank Mary 1851 Thornton Bradford, Thornton
Brooksbank Sarah Ann Fosted 1853 Thornton Bradford, Thornton
Brooksbank Hannah 1856 Thornton Bradford, Thornton
Brooksbank Colonel 1858 Thornton Bradford, Thornton
Brooksbank Berino 1860 Thornton Bradford, Thornton

I think Sarah Ann Fosted 1853 should probably be William 1854 (if my memory is correct)
Can anybody see the family in the 1861 census please?

Many thanks,
Frances

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 15 Mar 2013 10:37

Full 1861 census records for reference:

Name: Sarah Ann Foster Brooksbank
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles Brooksbank
Mother's name: Mary Brooksbank
Gender: Female
Where born: Thornton, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Thornton
Ecclesiastical parish: Denholme Gate
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image
Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Thornton
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 90
Piece: 3337
Folio: 40
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Brooksbank 29
Mary Brooksbank 30
Sarah Ann Foster Brooksbank 8
Hannah Brooksbank 5
Colonel Brooksbank 3
Berino Brooksbank 1


Name: Martin Brooksbank
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Brooksbank
Mother's name: Hannah Brooksbank
Gender: Male
Where born: Thornton, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Thornton
Ecclesiastical parish: Denholme Gate
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Thornton
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 110
Piece: 3337
Folio: 42
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
John Brooksbank 55
Hannah Brooksbank 53
Betty Brooksbank 30
Harriett Brooksbank 19
Martin Brooksbank 14


Name: Mary Brooksbank
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Thornton, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Thornton
Ecclesiastical parish: Denholme Gate
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Thornton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 161
Piece: 3337
Folio: 62
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
Isaac Smith 70
Mary Smith 72
Mary Brooksbank 10


safc

safc Report 15 Mar 2013 10:37

Name: Sarah Ann Foster
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Female
Age: 18
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Birthplace: Thornton, Yorkshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Bradford
Sub-District: Thornton
Parish: Thornton
County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Self Charles Brooksbank M 39 Thornton, Yorkshire
Wife Mary Brooksbank F 40 Ovenden, Yorkshire
Daughter Sarah Ann Foster F 18 Thornton, Yorkshire
Daughter Hannah Brooksbank F 15 Thornton, Yorkshire
Son Colonel Brooksbank M 12 Thornton, Yorkshire
Daughter Alice Brooksbank F 8 Thornton, Yorkshire
Son John Brooksbank M 5 Thornton, Yorkshire

safc

safc Report 15 Mar 2013 10:40

Marriages Sep 1854 (>99%)
Brooksbanks Charles Bradford Yorks 9b 167
FOSTER Mary Bradford Y 9b 167

Frances

Frances Report 15 Mar 2013 11:06

Thank you Jonesey and safc
Oh dear! I seem to have set an unfortunate puzzle! My thinking they might be tha same family now looks very unlikely!
There is another way of approaching it, if anybody can see the marriage:

Marriages Dec 1876
CLAPHAM Jeremiah Bradford, Y.
9b 121

Brooksbank Mary Bradford Y.
9b 121

with the bride's father listed?

From the 1911 census Mary is born 1851 and in 1881 (after marriage, so I have the right one, she gives Denholme as her place of birth - I do just love it when they keep changing their birth place!)

Dea

Dea Report 15 Mar 2013 11:12

Her father was James Brooksbank.

Can't get to the cert at the minute but I will come back with more info.

Dea x

Margee

Margee Report 15 Mar 2013 11:13

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
about Jeremiah Clapham Name: Jeremiah Clapham
Birth Year: abt 1855
Age: 21
Marriage or Bann Date: 18 Nov 1876
Parish: Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral)
Father's Name: William Clapham
Spouse's Name: Mary Brooksbank
Spouse's Father's Name: James Brooksbank

He's 21, a wool sorter, his father William a farmer. She's 25, a worsted weaver, her father James, deceased, a butcher.

Dea

Dea Report 15 Mar 2013 11:14

Her address was 'Old Road Top' ??, Denholme and her father was a butcher (deceased). - spinster aged 25, Worsted weaver

His address - Denholme Lane, Denholme - Batchelor aged 21, wool sorter.

Witnesses John William Fielding and Hannah Maria Fielding.


Dea x

safc

safc Report 15 Mar 2013 11:16

????

Name: Mary Brooksbank
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 15 Apr 1855
Christening Place: HEMINGBROUGH,YORK,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: James Brooksbank
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C10922-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 991067
Reference ID:

Frances

Frances Report 15 Mar 2013 11:23

Thank you Dea and Margee, unfortunately there is no Old Road Top listed in the current A-Z for Bradford.
I wonder if I can find the Smith grandaughter connection.....

Frances

Frances Report 15 Mar 2013 11:29

Sorry safc but I think Hemingbrough is near Selby - well away from Bradford, Denholme

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 15 Mar 2013 11:35

This looks quite interesting to me but James is not a butcher but who knows:

1861:
Name: James Brooksbank
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha Brooksbank
Gender: Male
Where born: Denholme, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Thornton
Ecclesiastical parish: Denholme Gate
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image
Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Thornton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 124
Piece: 3337
Folio: 58
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name Age
James Brooksbank 32
Martha Brooksbank 39
James Smith 16
Elisabeth Smith 14
Joseph Smith 12
Reuben Smith 10
Mary Rebecca Smith 8 born Denholme, Yorkshire
Emma Smith 6
Sarah Jane Brooksbank 10 Months

Maddie

Maddie Report 15 Mar 2013 11:39

another link to the Smiths
1841
SMITH, Isaac M 50 1791 Yorkshire VIEW
SMITH, Mary F 50 1791 Yorkshire VIEW
SMITH, Betty F 25 1816 Yorkshire VIEW
SMITH, Martha F 20 1821 Yorkshire VIEW
SMITH, Sarah F 20 1821 Yorkshire VIEW
SMITH, Edward M 19 1822 Yorkshire VIEW
SMITH, Jonathan M 17 1824 Yorkshire VIEW
SMITH, Leah F 15 1826 Yorkshire VIEW
BROOKSBANK, Mena F 0 (4 months) 1841 Yorkshire VIEW

Piece: 1297

Book/Folio: 7/41

Page: 5

Registration District: Bradford

Civil Parish: Bradford

Municipal Borough:

Address: New Road Side, Bradford, Thornton

County: Yorkshire
refine search back to 1841 census search results

looks like maria on original

Frances

Frances Report 15 Mar 2013 11:40

You could be doing me out of a job Jonesey. I need to break off to check out the marriage of James and Martha - it looks very promising

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 15 Mar 2013 11:44

Name: James Brooksbank
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1859
Registration district: Bradford
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume Number: 9b
Page Number: 138
Spouse: Martha Smith

safc

safc Report 15 Mar 2013 11:48

Yorkshire Birth indexes for the years: 1841
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
BROOKSBANK Mena Thornton Bradford THORN/4/39

Frances

Frances Report 15 Mar 2013 11:59

Could this be listed under 'Intriguing'?
I was looking for James getting married before the birth of Mary 1851 ....???

safc

safc Report 15 Mar 2013 12:00

Yorkshire Death indexes for the years: 1861
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
BROOKSBANK Barina - Thornton Bradford THORN/15/45

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 15 Mar 2013 12:03

The Martha Smith who married that James Brooksbank was born as Martha Sharp:

Name: Martha Smith
Birth Year: abt 1822
Age: 37
Marriage or Bann Date: 5 Dec 1859
Parish: Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral)
Father's Name: James Sharp
Spouse's Name: James Brooksbank
Spouse's Father's Name: David Brooksbank

Her previous husband was an Abraham Smith.

Name: Martha Sharp
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1844
Registration district: Bradford
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume Number: 23
Page Number: 221

Dea

Dea Report 15 Mar 2013 12:38

With regard to the address of 'Old Road Top' which you couldn't find in Bradford.

I looked on 1881 and this is the family living there:

1881 Census transcription details for: Old Rd Top, Thornton

National Archive Reference:
RG number RG11
Piece: 4469
Folio: 83
Page: 6
Reg. District: Bradford
Sub District: Thornton
Parish: Thornton
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Old Rd Top, Thornton
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
WHALLEY, Thomas Head Widower M 40 1841 General Labourer Denholme, Yorkshire
WHALLEY, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 16 1865 Mill Hand In Worsted Factory Denholme, Yorkshire
WHALLEY, Lucy Daughter Single F 13 1868 Mill Hand In Worsted Factory Denholme, Yorkshire
WHALLEY, Janet Daughter Single F 12 1869 Scholar Denholme, Yorkshire
WHALLEY, Harry Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar Denholme, Yorkshire
LAWRENCE, Edward Head Widower M 62 1819 Coal Merchant Thurnham, Yorkshire


One of the wirnesses at the wedding (Jeremiah and Mary) was Hannah Maria Fielding and her maiden name was Whaley:

Marriages Sep 1871 (>99%)
FIELDING John William Bradford Y 9b 111 Scan available - click to view
Whaley Hannah Maria Bradford, Y. 9b 111 Scan available - click to view

So, this would be where Mary was staying before her wedding.


Doesn't really help us though but I found it so I'll post it ! ;-) :-D

Dea x