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Alan Patrick

Alan Patrick Report 15 Mar 2013 14:40

I am trying to find some info on Isaac Clarke who is father of John Clarke b1848 in Alburgh, Norfolk. John was married to Hannah Gower b Denton 1848. On their marriage cert. John's father is down as Isaac Clarke and Hannah's father as Samuel Gower, but there are so many Isaac Clarke's born same area and time I don't seem able to find an Isaac who has a son John.
Any help would be appreciated please as I am completely stuck.

Pam

Alemap

Alemap Report 15 Mar 2013 14:55

Are you sure of his date of birth?

Name: John Thaxter Clark
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 17 Feb 1833
Christening Place: Aldborough, Norfolk, England
Father's Name: Isaac Appleton Clark
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Clark
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I07488-3
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1565305
Reference ID: item 132 p 17

Alemap

Alemap Report 15 Mar 2013 14:58

For ref:

Name: John Clarke
Spouse's Name: Hannah Gower
Spouse's Birth Date: 1848
Spouse's Age: 23
Event Date: 16 Apr 1871
Event Place: Denton, Norfolk, England
Father's Name: Isaac Clarke
Spouse's Father's Name: Samuel Gower
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I07524-6
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1657227
Reference ID: item 36 p 60

Maddie

Maddie Report 15 Mar 2013 15:05

1851 ??????????
CLARK, Isaac A Head Married M 42 1809 Painler
Norwich VIEW
CLARK, Mary A Wife Married F 40 1811
Birmingham, Norfolk VIEW
CLARK, John Son Unmarried M 18 1833 Corespimer
Attleborough, Norfolk VIEW
CLARK, William Son M 12 1839 Corespimer
Norwich VIEW
CLARK, Isaac Son M 9 1842 Corespimer
Trowse, Norfolk VIEW
CLARK, Arthur Son M 6 1845
Norwich VIEW
CLARK, Laura Daughter F 1 1850
Norwich VIEW
WOOKEY, Sarah Lodger Unmarried F 19 1832 Bor Mkaer
St?, Norfolk VIEW

Piece: 1814

Folio: 180

Page: 27

Registration District: Norwich

Civil Parish: St Michaels Thorne

Municipal Borough: Norwich

Address: Rising Sun Lane, St Michaels Thorne, Norwich

County: Norfolk
refine search back to 1851 census search results

Alan Patrick

Alan Patrick Report 15 Mar 2013 15:16

It has to be Clarke with an 'e'. Also needs to be Alburgh not Aldborough, date may be a year out.
John is father of Stephen F Clarke, sometimes down as Frederick S. Clarke b 1871 Wortwell, Norfolk.

Alemap

Alemap Report 15 Mar 2013 15:42

1881 census Is this the family you are after?

CLARKE, John Head Married M 32 1849 Ag Labourer Alburgh, Norfolk
CLARKE, Pamela H Pemily Wife Married F 31 1850 Denton, Norfolk
GOWER, James Son Single M 13 1868 Labourer Denton, Norfolk
CLARKE, Stephen F Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar Wortwell, Norfolk

Piece: 1965 Folio: 138 Page: 1 Registration District: Depwade Civil Parish: Wortwell Municipal Borough: Address: Low Rd, Wortwell County: Norfolk

Added Pamela crossed out P left in and emily added,so it looks like Pemily H

Alemap

Alemap Report 15 Mar 2013 16:00

1861 Gower's 2 doors down

Name: John Clark Father: James
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1861
Gender: Male
Age: 7
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birthplace: Alburgh, Norfolk
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Depwade
Sub-District: 1 Harleston
Ecclesiastical Parish: Norwich
Parish: Alburgh
Residence County: Norfolk

Alan Patrick

Alan Patrick Report 15 Mar 2013 18:38

The 1881 Census is correct but it is John's father Isaac I am trying to find, he is down on their marriage certificate as being John's father. I have found various Isaac Clarke's but none of them have a son John being about the right age and being married to Pamela Hannah Gower, sometimes down as Hannah Pamela Gower.

Alemap

Alemap Report 16 Mar 2013 09:26

Have you tried

http://www.norfolkfhs.org.uk/nors/

Alan Patrick

Alan Patrick Report 17 Mar 2013 16:37

Thanks for all your help but I think I will have to keep looking as I cannot find an Isaac Clarke with a son John to match with the family I have.
I have looked on the norfolk website but no good. Thanks anyway to all of you.

Alan

K

K Report 17 Mar 2013 17:14

What was Isaac's occupation listed as on the marriage cert?

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 17 Mar 2013 17:37

Alan, do not rule anyone out just because they are spelled 'Clark' instead of 'Clarke'. Spelling of surnames was not an exact science in those days and a very large percentage of people didn't even know how to spell their names.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Mar 2013 17:41

(Marriage reference)

County Norfolk
Place Denton
Church St Mary
RegisterNumber 119
MarriageDate 16 Apr 1871
GroomForename John
GroomSurname CLARKE
GroomAge
GroomParish St Cross
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Labourer
GroomAbode
BrideForename Hannah
BrideSurname GOWER
BrideAge 23
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename Isaac
GroomFatherSurname CLARKE
GroomFatherOccupation Labourer
BrideFatherForename Samuel
BrideFatherSurname GOWER
BrideFatherOccupation Labourer
WitnessOneForename Cornelius
WitnessOneSurname GOWER
WitnessTwoForename Hannah
WitnessTwoSurname PATRICK

Chris :)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
(from above link)

Alan Patrick

Alan Patrick Report 19 Mar 2013 15:10

Hi Chris, yes I have the marriage details of John and Hannah but its John's father Isaac I need to find out more about and possibly details of his spouse but there are quite a few Isaac's around the area and am unable to find a family where Isaac is head with spouse and children including John with the right age.

K - Isaac's occupation was Labourer

Alan

Mary

Mary Report 19 Mar 2013 16:03

Do we have John clarke's address at time of marriage?

Maryb.

Alan Patrick

Alan Patrick Report 21 Mar 2013 13:33

Only place I have for John, his parish was St.Cross.

Alan

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Mar 2013 13:35

Don't close your mind to the possibility of a different spelling...................you MUST be flexible in your thinking

The census enumerators wrote the names as they heard them.

Alan Patrick

Alan Patrick Report 21 Mar 2013 13:39

In the 1881 Census they were living at Low Rd. Wortwell but they married in 1871 so could have moved by the 1881 Census

Alan

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Mar 2013 13:43

I know this isn't your chap, but it's a perfect illustration of the point about spelling

CLARKE, John J Head Married M 32 1819 Turner
Wacton, Norfolk VIEW
CLARKE, Mary A Wife Married F 28 1823 Head Loom Weaver
Norwich VIEW
CLARKE, Mary A Daughter Unmarried F 6 1845 Scholar
Norwich VIEW
CLARK, John J Son Unmarried M 4 1847 Scholar
Norwich VIEW
CLARK, Mathew C Son Unmarried M 2 1849
Norwich

As is this................

CLARKS, William Head Married M 32 1819 Ag Lab
Banham, Norfolk VIEW
CLARK, Sarah Wife Married F 29 1822
Bunwell, Norfolk VIEW
CLARK, William Son Unmarried M 5 1846
Banham, Norfolk VIEW
CLARK, John Son M 2 1849
Banham, Norfolk VIEW
CLARK, Henry Son M 0 (3 MOS) 1851
Banham, Norfolk

You must also allow for mistranscriptions of records................

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Mar 2013 13:52

The image of 1881 shows the wife's name to be Camilla H.........nothing remotely like the transcription......