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What happened to my gr great grandmother.

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Treemadnancy

Treemadnancy Report 15 Mar 2013 20:19

My gr great grandmother Agnes Lee born Glasgow c1841 to Robert Lee "carpet twister" and Elizabeth Balfour ran away to Utah to join the mormons around 1884-1886 from Glasgow. She left my grandmother Hannah Lee who was aged around 16 or 17 at the time to fend for herself. We all asumed Hannahs parents were John Lee "joiner" and Agnes Balfour but we could never trace a birth. Finally traced one for Hannah Lee born 18 March 1868 to Agnes Lee, she was "illigitimate"

Obviousely Hannah lied about her parentage, not wanting to admit she was illigitmate. So!! what happened to my g g great grandparents Robert Lee born Glasgow and Elizabeth Balfour born Stirling, no trace of them after 1851.

Agnes is listed on the 1841 aged 5months and on the 1851 she has a sister Janet.

Agnes and Janet appear together on the 1861 and 1871 doing the same jobs. No sign of either of them after this..Any help of how to trace Agnes in Utuah will be gratefull :-D

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 15 Mar 2013 20:41

Just posting the 1861 to work from:

MCCALLUM, Mary Head Unmarried F 18 1843 Book Folder Glasgow, Lanarkshire
MCCALLUM, Flora Sister F 14 1847 Book Folder Glasgow, Lanarkshire
MCCALLUM, Jane Sister F 9 1852 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire
LEE, Agnes Boarder Unmarried F 19 1842 Book Folder Glasgow, Lanarkshire
LEE, Janet Boarder Unmarried F 15 1846 Book Folder Glasgow, Lanarkshire

Piece: 644 Folio: 1 Page: 12
Registration District: Central
Civil Parish: St Mungo

Address: Dobbie's Loan, St Mungo County: Lanarkshire

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Mar 2013 20:46

1871 age a bit out

Name: Janet Lee
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relationship: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 644/1
Registration district: Central District
Civil parish: Glasgow St Paul
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 26 George St
Occupation: Poper Arg Woker
ED: 52
Household schedule number: 81
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1871_123
Household Members: Name Age
Janet Sinton 41
Marie Hord 21
Margaret Sinton 20
Agnes Lee 27
Janet Lee 21



Agnes shown as "Eldest sister "

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Mar 2013 20:54

1881 ??

Name: Janet Lee
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relationship: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 644/5
Registration district: Blackfriars
Civil parish: Glasgow Robertson Memorial
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 26 George Street
Occupation: Paper Bag Maker
ED: 7
Household schedule number: 81
Line: 9
Roll: cssct1881_226
Household Members: Name Age
Agnes Lee 36
Hannah Lee 13
Janet Lee 33

Catherine

Catherine Report 15 Mar 2013 21:11

for ref:-

Robert Lee, "Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910"

Nom: Robert Lee
Nom du conjoint: Elizabeth Balfour

Date de l'événement: 27 Oct 1840
Lieu de l'événement: Gorbals,Lanark,Scotland

Indexing Project (Batch) Nombre: M11935-6
Origine du système: Scotland-ODM
Numéro de film: 1042982

...................................................................

1841 Scotland Census about Robert Lee
Name: Robert Lee
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland
Civil parish: Glasgow College
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Blackfriars Street 18
Occupation: C Twister
Parish Number: 644/1
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Lee 30
Elizabeth Lee 25 - (born 1816) : Lanarkshire, Scotland
Agnes Lee 5 Mo

...............................................

1851 Scotland Census about Robert Lee
Name: Robert Lee
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relationship: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Balfour
[Elizabeth Lee]
Gender: Male
Where born: Duntocher, Dumbartonshire
Parish Number: 644/1
Civil parish: Glasgow St Paul
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 21 Nicholas St
Occupation: Twister
ED: 16
Page: 21 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 82
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1851_157
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Lee 40
Elizabeth Balfour 38
Elizabeth Lee 38
Agnes Lee 10
Janet Lee 5

Treemadnancy

Treemadnancy Report 15 Mar 2013 21:33

Definately them in the 1871 census, as 26 George St is where Hannah was born...

But where is everyone after this???

:-(

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Mar 2013 22:09

So are you saying the 1881 is not them although at the same address as 1871

Have you looked on Scotlandspeople for any possible deaths for the parents Robert and Elizabeth

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 15 Mar 2013 22:16

Have you looked on Scotlandspeople for possible deaths for any of the family please?

Where was Hannah in 1871 please?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Mar 2013 22:24

Not found Hannah anywhere in 1871

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 15 Mar 2013 22:29

I can't see her either GB. Tried searching with just Hannah (no Surname) and Lee (no christian name)

I am also wondering how much a Paper Bag Maker in Glasgow would know much about Mormanism in the 1880s or 1890s. Were they sending missionaries over here as early as that?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Mar 2013 22:33

Oh bother

Just had a look at FMP

They claim a Hannah Lee b 1868 in Clyde district of Lanarkshire but not at the moment finding it on Ancestry

alviegal

alviegal Report 15 Mar 2013 22:36

Here she is?

1871 census transcription details for: 42, King Street, St Mary Glasgow
Print Close

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 644
Folio: 9
Page: 18
Reg. District: Clyde
Sub District:
Parish: St Mary Glasgow
Enum. District: 9
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 42, King Street, St Mary Glasgow
County: Lanarkshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
CAMPBELL, John Head Married M 46 1825 Engine Man Glasgow, Lanarkshire
CAMPBELL, Sarah Wife Married F 46 1825 Glasgow, Lanarkshire
CAMPBELL, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 19 1852 Cap Finisher Glasgow, Lanarkshire
CAMPBELL, John Son M 16 1855 Shoe Sprigger Glasgow, Lanarkshire
CAMPBELL, William Son M 14 1857 Shoe Sprigger Glasgow, Lanarkshire
CAMPBELL, Lillias Daughter Daughter F 10 1861 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire
MACLIN, James Boarder Unmarried M 29 1842 Blacksmith Glasgow, Lanarkshire
SPEIRS, Robt Boarder Unmarried M 20 1851 Gun Smith Glasgow, Lanarkshire
MACKLIN, Wm Boarder Unmarried M 17 1854 Cabinet Maker Glasgow, Lanarkshire
LEE, Hannah Boarder F 3 1868 Glasgow, Lanarkshire



and the 1881 already posted.

1881 census transcription details for: 26, George Street, City Glasgow
Print Close

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 6445
Folio: 7
Page: 14
Reg. District: Blackfriars
Sub District:
Parish: City Glasgow
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 26, George Street, City Glasgow
County: Lanarkshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
LEE, Agnes Head Unmarried F 36 1845 Paper Bag Maker
Glasgow, Lanarkshire
LEE, Hannah Daughter F 13 1868 Scholar
Glasgow, Lanarkshire
LEE, Janet Sister Unmarried F 33 1848 Paper Bag Maker
Glasgow, Lanarkshire

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 15 Mar 2013 22:44

Well found Alviegal

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Mar 2013 22:54

Brilliant

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Mar 2013 22:58

1871Ancestry version

Name: Hannah Machlin
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relationship: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 644/5
Registration district: Clyde
Civil parish: Glasgow St Mary
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 42 King St
ED: 9
Household schedule number: 92
Line: 23
Roll: CSSCT1871_132
Household Members: Name Age
John Campbell 46
Sarah Campbell 46
Mary Campbell 19
John Campbell 16
William Campbell 14
Lillias Campbell 10
James Maclin 29
Robt Speis 20
Wm Machlin 17
Hannah Machlin 3


Treemadnancy

Treemadnancy Report 16 Mar 2013 08:31

Mmm wondering why Hannah is listed on the 1871 census with strangers, perhaps mother Agnes was working that night and left her daughter with freinds, King St and George St werent too far away..Or!! was she staying with her father James Maclin, since there seems to be a discrepancy with Hannahs surname Machlin?? Dont suppose we will never know! Yes!! I have tried looking for deaths for Agnes Lee, Janet Lee and both parents Robert Lee and Elizabeth Balfour!! did they all go to Utah and join the mormons?? :-S

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Mar 2013 16:19

From new thread:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1321521

"Can anyone see Robert Lee born c1811 Dunbartonshire and his wife Elizabeth Balfour born c1813 Stirling in 1861 or 1871..Theyre on the 1841 and 1851 census, but no sign of them after this??"

Treemadnancy

Treemadnancy Report 19 May 2013 14:07

No I haven't seen them after 1851 either??