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19 May 2013 14:07 |
No I haven't seen them after 1851 either??
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MarieCeleste
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17 Mar 2013 16:19 |
From new thread: http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1321521
"Can anyone see Robert Lee born c1811 Dunbartonshire and his wife Elizabeth Balfour born c1813 Stirling in 1861 or 1871..Theyre on the 1841 and 1851 census, but no sign of them after this??"
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16 Mar 2013 08:31 |
Mmm wondering why Hannah is listed on the 1871 census with strangers, perhaps mother Agnes was working that night and left her daughter with freinds, King St and George St werent too far away..Or!! was she staying with her father James Maclin, since there seems to be a discrepancy with Hannahs surname Machlin?? Dont suppose we will never know! Yes!! I have tried looking for deaths for Agnes Lee, Janet Lee and both parents Robert Lee and Elizabeth Balfour!! did they all go to Utah and join the mormons?? :-S
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15 Mar 2013 22:58 |
1871Ancestry version
Name: Hannah Machlin Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relationship: Boarder Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration number: 644/5 Registration district: Clyde Civil parish: Glasgow St Mary County: Lanarkshire Address: 42 King St ED: 9 Household schedule number: 92 Line: 23 Roll: CSSCT1871_132 Household Members: Name Age John Campbell 46 Sarah Campbell 46 Mary Campbell 19 John Campbell 16 William Campbell 14 Lillias Campbell 10 James Maclin 29 Robt Speis 20 Wm Machlin 17 Hannah Machlin 3
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GlitterBaby
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15 Mar 2013 22:54 |
Brilliant
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rootgatherer
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15 Mar 2013 22:44 |
Well found Alviegal
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alviegal
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15 Mar 2013 22:36 |
Here she is?
1871 census transcription details for: 42, King Street, St Mary Glasgow Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 644 Folio: 9 Page: 18 Reg. District: Clyde Sub District: Parish: St Mary Glasgow Enum. District: 9 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: 42, King Street, St Mary Glasgow County: Lanarkshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born CAMPBELL, John Head Married M 46 1825 Engine Man Glasgow, Lanarkshire CAMPBELL, Sarah Wife Married F 46 1825 Glasgow, Lanarkshire CAMPBELL, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 19 1852 Cap Finisher Glasgow, Lanarkshire CAMPBELL, John Son M 16 1855 Shoe Sprigger Glasgow, Lanarkshire CAMPBELL, William Son M 14 1857 Shoe Sprigger Glasgow, Lanarkshire CAMPBELL, Lillias Daughter Daughter F 10 1861 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire MACLIN, James Boarder Unmarried M 29 1842 Blacksmith Glasgow, Lanarkshire SPEIRS, Robt Boarder Unmarried M 20 1851 Gun Smith Glasgow, Lanarkshire MACKLIN, Wm Boarder Unmarried M 17 1854 Cabinet Maker Glasgow, Lanarkshire LEE, Hannah Boarder F 3 1868 Glasgow, Lanarkshire
and the 1881 already posted.
1881 census transcription details for: 26, George Street, City Glasgow Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 6445 Folio: 7 Page: 14 Reg. District: Blackfriars Sub District: Parish: City Glasgow Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: 26, George Street, City Glasgow County: Lanarkshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born LEE, Agnes Head Unmarried F 36 1845 Paper Bag Maker Glasgow, Lanarkshire LEE, Hannah Daughter F 13 1868 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire LEE, Janet Sister Unmarried F 33 1848 Paper Bag Maker Glasgow, Lanarkshire
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GlitterBaby
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15 Mar 2013 22:33 |
Oh bother
Just had a look at FMP
They claim a Hannah Lee b 1868 in Clyde district of Lanarkshire but not at the moment finding it on Ancestry
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15 Mar 2013 22:29 |
I can't see her either GB. Tried searching with just Hannah (no Surname) and Lee (no christian name)
I am also wondering how much a Paper Bag Maker in Glasgow would know much about Mormanism in the 1880s or 1890s. Were they sending missionaries over here as early as that?
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GlitterBaby
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15 Mar 2013 22:24 |
Not found Hannah anywhere in 1871
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rootgatherer
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15 Mar 2013 22:16 |
Have you looked on Scotlandspeople for possible deaths for any of the family please?
Where was Hannah in 1871 please?
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GlitterBaby
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15 Mar 2013 22:09 |
So are you saying the 1881 is not them although at the same address as 1871
Have you looked on Scotlandspeople for any possible deaths for the parents Robert and Elizabeth
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15 Mar 2013 21:33 |
Definately them in the 1871 census, as 26 George St is where Hannah was born...
But where is everyone after this???
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15 Mar 2013 21:11 |
for ref:-
Robert Lee, "Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910"
Nom: Robert Lee Nom du conjoint: Elizabeth Balfour Date de l'événement: 27 Oct 1840 Lieu de l'événement: Gorbals,Lanark,Scotland Indexing Project (Batch) Nombre: M11935-6 Origine du système: Scotland-ODM Numéro de film: 1042982
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1841 Scotland Census about Robert Lee Name: Robert Lee Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Gender: Male Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland Civil parish: Glasgow College County: Lanarkshire Address: Blackfriars Street 18 Occupation: C Twister Parish Number: 644/1 Household Members: Name Age Robert Lee 30 Elizabeth Lee 25 - (born 1816) : Lanarkshire, Scotland Agnes Lee 5 Mo
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1851 Scotland Census about Robert Lee Name: Robert Lee Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Relationship: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Balfour [Elizabeth Lee] Gender: Male Where born: Duntocher, Dumbartonshire Parish Number: 644/1 Civil parish: Glasgow St Paul County: Lanarkshire Address: 21 Nicholas St Occupation: Twister ED: 16 Page: 21 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 82 Line: 16 Roll: CSSCT1851_157 Household Members: Name Age Robert Lee 40 Elizabeth Balfour 38 Elizabeth Lee 38 Agnes Lee 10 Janet Lee 5
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15 Mar 2013 20:54 |
1881 ??
Name: Janet Lee Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relationship: Sister Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration number: 644/5 Registration district: Blackfriars Civil parish: Glasgow Robertson Memorial County: Lanarkshire Address: 26 George Street Occupation: Paper Bag Maker ED: 7 Household schedule number: 81 Line: 9 Roll: cssct1881_226 Household Members: Name Age Agnes Lee 36 Hannah Lee 13 Janet Lee 33
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15 Mar 2013 20:46 |
1871 age a bit out
Name: Janet Lee Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relationship: Sister Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration number: 644/1 Registration district: Central District Civil parish: Glasgow St Paul County: Lanarkshire Address: 26 George St Occupation: Poper Arg Woker ED: 52 Household schedule number: 81 Line: 12 Roll: CSSCT1871_123 Household Members: Name Age Janet Sinton 41 Marie Hord 21 Margaret Sinton 20 Agnes Lee 27 Janet Lee 21
Agnes shown as "Eldest sister "
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MarieCeleste
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15 Mar 2013 20:41 |
Just posting the 1861 to work from:
MCCALLUM, Mary Head Unmarried F 18 1843 Book Folder Glasgow, Lanarkshire MCCALLUM, Flora Sister F 14 1847 Book Folder Glasgow, Lanarkshire MCCALLUM, Jane Sister F 9 1852 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire LEE, Agnes Boarder Unmarried F 19 1842 Book Folder Glasgow, Lanarkshire LEE, Janet Boarder Unmarried F 15 1846 Book Folder Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Piece: 644 Folio: 1 Page: 12 Registration District: Central Civil Parish: St Mungo
Address: Dobbie's Loan, St Mungo County: Lanarkshire
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15 Mar 2013 20:19 |
My gr great grandmother Agnes Lee born Glasgow c1841 to Robert Lee "carpet twister" and Elizabeth Balfour ran away to Utah to join the mormons around 1884-1886 from Glasgow. She left my grandmother Hannah Lee who was aged around 16 or 17 at the time to fend for herself. We all asumed Hannahs parents were John Lee "joiner" and Agnes Balfour but we could never trace a birth. Finally traced one for Hannah Lee born 18 March 1868 to Agnes Lee, she was "illigitimate"
Obviousely Hannah lied about her parentage, not wanting to admit she was illigitmate. So!! what happened to my g g great grandparents Robert Lee born Glasgow and Elizabeth Balfour born Stirling, no trace of them after 1851.
Agnes is listed on the 1841 aged 5months and on the 1851 she has a sister Janet.
Agnes and Janet appear together on the 1861 and 1871 doing the same jobs. No sign of either of them after this..Any help of how to trace Agnes in Utuah will be gratefull :-D
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