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help with condon family

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missjan

missjan Report 17 Mar 2013 20:05

hi i'm wanting advise on tracing my great gran, I've hit a brick wall. she's Angelina condon born in 1866 in wast bromwich, staffordshire, but did settle in middlesbrough, Yorkshire. she was married to William gilchrist in 1888 in stockton, county Durham, he was born in bill quay, Newcastle in 1861 and had all there children in middlesbrough ive found al that but the beginning of her life and end is a puzzle
i was told she died in middlesbrough in the 30's but can't find it, she was meant to have been remarried to a Mr haverty, i cant find it.
and i also can't find her on no early censers when she was a child.

Choccy

Choccy Report 17 Mar 2013 20:10



here's her second marriage -


England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005

Name: Angelina Gilchrist
Spouse Surname: Haverty
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1920
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume Number: 9d
Page Number: 1426
Find Spouse: William Haverty


missjan

missjan Report 17 Mar 2013 20:13

how quick, thank you choccy

Choccy

Choccy Report 17 Mar 2013 20:35


not seeing any more of her though!

I don't suppose you've got her birth certificate to see who her parents were?

Maybe she was born out of wedlock and her mother subsequently married before the 1871 census. Saying that I can't even see an 'Angelina' born in or around 1866 in Staffordshire.

Have you any more clues?



Helen

Helen Report 17 Mar 2013 20:40

Theres a copy of her birth cert on a tree on ancestry, father Patrick, mother Elizabeth. i cant read her maiden name though.

Mike *

Mike * Report 17 Mar 2013 20:40

Births Mar 1866
Condon Angelina - W. Bromwich 6b 773

Alemap

Alemap Report 17 Mar 2013 20:42

Birth index
Civil registration event: Birth

Name: CONDON, Angelina
Registration district: [?] West Bromwich
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1866
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no:[?]6BPage no:[?]773

Mike *

Mike * Report 17 Mar 2013 20:45



There is this marriage but too early . Thought it may be her mother

Angelina Condon
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1872
Registration district: Stockton
Inferred County: Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 122

Alemap

Alemap Report 17 Mar 2013 20:46

Christening
Name: Maria Angelina Condon
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 04 Feb 1866
Christening Place: St. Mary's-on-the-Hill, Wednesbury, Stafford, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Patritii Condon
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03092-3
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1999484

Death of

Civil registration event: Death

Name: HAVERTY, Mary A
Registration district: [?] Middlesbrough
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1937
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death:72
Volume no: 9D Page no: 609

Barry

Barry Report 17 Mar 2013 20:48

I 'm pretty sure the mn for Elizabeth is reads DAVIS

Mike *

Mike * Report 17 Mar 2013 20:54

There is also a copy of the marriage cert to William Gilchrist where she names her father as Thomas Condon !!!!

missjan

missjan Report 17 Mar 2013 20:56

thanks for all the help ive got the birth certificate saying mother Elizabeth (i think it says that) and father Patrick, its Angelina's forename that i'm getting stuck on, i don't know if she went by another name, there was something went on with the family when she died about her name but i thought it was over her married name with her being remarried and my mam couldn't remember as she's had a stroke

Barry

Barry Report 17 Mar 2013 20:57

marriage- Patrick Condon to Elizabeth Davis OR Catherine Hopkins Q2 1857 Cardiff ref 11a 452

missjan

missjan Report 17 Mar 2013 21:07

thanks Pam the seems about right apart form the maria i know they were big Catholics, i found the death of mary a haverty i don't know if that her, and there was an other birth certificate for angelina condon in wedgebuy or wendsbury with thomas as a father but on a censer for her address in lower east street middlesbrough she says her birth place is west brom

missjan

missjan Report 17 Mar 2013 21:20

with the name condon think theres and irish link and my grandad used to all ways be sing the old irish songs aparently that his mother (angelina) sang to them

missjan

missjan Report 17 Mar 2013 21:38

i think i'm going to have take all the certificates out again and try and work all these different name she's given and used and all the different places, but thank you every one for all the info

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 17 Mar 2013 22:43

There are 2 Condon Baptisms for parents Patrick and Eliz.(Wood) St Mary's-on-the-Hill

Mary Condon Baptised 1 Feb 1863
Mary "Angelina" Condon Baptised 4 Feb 1866.

The Census 1871 for the family should show if Mary (1863) was still alive....

missjan

missjan Report 17 Mar 2013 23:17

so Angelina is her middle name maybe what she's gone by , makes sense with her death certificate. thank you i'll have a look at the census again,