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Hello I'm trying to find details of GGG Grandfather Edward Liddiard around 1800. Berkshire/Wilkshire. Been looking for proof that he lost his first wife Mary and remarried a Sarah, hence he had two sets of children.
My GG Grandfather being Henry born Hungerford 1823.

Colin

Just to get us started, is this Henry in 1871:

1871 England Census
about Henry Liddiard
Name: Henry Liddiard
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Phillis Liddiard
Gender: Male
Where born: Hungerford, Berkshire, England
Civil parish: Tranmere
Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub-registration district: Tranmere
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 249
Piece: 3751
Folio: 60
Page Number: 44
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Liddiard 47
Phillis Liddiard 40
Henry Edward Liddiard 16
George Liddiard 13
Mary Ann Liddiard 11
Hannah Ellen Liddiard 7
Claude Liddiard 5
Ralph Liddiard 2

possible 1841
LIDDIARD, Henry M 20 1821 Wiltshire VIEW
LIDDIARD, Leah F 20 1821 Wiltshire VIEW

Piece: 1185

Book/Folio: 1/30

Page: 23

Registration District: Hungerford

Civil Parish: Aldbourne

Municipal Borough:

Address: Butts, Aldbourne

County: Wiltshire

Is this Edward in the 1851 census? :-

1851 census transcription details for: Eddington, Hungerford

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1686
Folio: 364
Page: 11
Reg. District: Hungerford
Sub District:
Parish: Hungerford
Enum. District: 7
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: Eddington, Hungerford
County: Berkshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

LIDDIARD, Edgar Son M 10 1841 Scholar
Hungerford, Berkshire
LIDDIARD, Albert Son M 8 1843 Scholar
Hungerford, Berkshire
BUNCE, Caroline Niece F 10 1841 Scholar
Hungerford, Berkshire
LIDDIARD, Sarah Daughter Unmarried F 16 1835
Hungerford, Berkshire
LIDDIARD, Harriet Wife Married F 44 1807
Wiltshire
LIDDIARD, Edward Head Married M 48 1803 Gardeners Seedsman
White Waltham, Berkshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
LIDDIARD, George Son M 14 1837
Hungerford, Berkshire
LIDDIARD, Ann Daughter F 12 1839
Hungerford, Berkshire

EDIT - sorry - just realised that this one's wife is Harriet. The transcription is in a different order to the actual image.

Kath. x

Henry in 1861 - ignore Elizabeth Lowe, she is in a different household; Phyllis is shown as Station man's wife:

1861 England Census
about Phillis Liddiare
Name: Phillis Liddiare
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Bricket Wood, Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Exhall
Ecclesiastical parish: Worcester
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Foleshill
Sub-registration district: Foleshill
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Piece: 2198
Folio: 89
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Lowe 71
Phillis Liddiare 30
Henry Liddiare 6
George Liddiare 3
Mary A Liddiare 1

Possible marriage
Day:15
Month:Oct
Year:1831
Groom's Forename(s):Edward
Groom's Surname:Liddiard
Groom's Age:
Groom Signed:
Groom's Condition:
Groom's Address:
Groom's Occupation:
Bride's Forename(s):Anne
Bride's Surname:Tubb
Bride's Age:
Bride Signed:
Bride's Condition:
Bride's Address:
Bride's occupation:
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Father's Occupation:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Father's Occupation:
How Married?:by BannsChurch:St Lawrence
Parish:Hungerford
County:Berkshire
Country:England
Checked?:
Witnesses:
Notes:
Record source:Berkshire Marriages
Data provider:Berkshire Family History Society
Transcriptions © Berkshire Family History Society


Possible death of Edward.

Title:Forename:Edward
Surname:Liddiard
Day Buried:13
Month Buried:Mar
Year Buried:1879
Church Name:St Lawrence
Place Name:Hungerford
County:Berkshire
Occupation:
Age:76
Address:Eddington
Address County:
Status:
Relationship:
Relation:
Source:
Other Details:Record source:Berkshire Burials
Data provider:Berkshire Family History Society
Transcriptions © Berkshire Family History Society

This looks like the marriage of Henry & Leah in the 1841:

Marriages Mar 1840 (>99%)
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BARRET George Hungerford 6 257
LIDDIARD Henry Hungerford 6 257
NEW Sarah Hungerford 6 257
RALPH Leah Hungerford 6 257

but a tree on Ancestry has that Henry as dying in a shipwreck in 1851

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Edward Liddiard
Name: Edward Liddiard
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1879
Age at Death: 76
Registration district: Hungerford
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 189

Could this be Henry's marriage to Phillis - she was born Herts according to the 1861 census posted earlier:

Henry Liddiard
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Phillis Ashby
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 12 Jun 1854
Parish: St Andrew by the Wardrobe
Borough: City of London
Father Name: Edward Liddiard
Spouse Father Name: William Ashby
Register Type: Parish Register

I think he was a corn merchant, but image is not very good. But the date ties in well with their oldest child from the census

Looks like Corn Merchant to me; father Edward is Seedsman.

Looks like 2 Henry's christened around the right time, this one could be your Henry:

Henry Liddiard
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 20 Aug 1826
Christening Place: Aldbourne, Wiltshire, England
Father's Name: Edward Liddiard
Mother's name: Mary

The other one christened in Nov, father James, mother Anne. It could be his marriage to Leah and subsequent death in a shipwreck.

Really need some feedback from Colin to know if we have the right Henry.

Added: Forget this, I've just noticed it is Wiltshire, not Berkshire - think I'm cracking up :-0

This Edward is a gardener in 1841, but no Henry though:

Edward Liddiard
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Berkshire, England

Civil parish: Hungerford
Hundred: Kintbury Eagle
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Hungerford
Sub-registration district: Hungerford
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 21
Book: 10
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Liddiard 35
Ann Liddiard 35
Edward Liddiard 8
William Liddiard 7
Sarah Liddiard 6
George Liddiard 4
Ann Liddiard 3
Edgar Liddiard 4 Mo

All born in county.

Added, maybe Henry's mother was Mary Ann?

Thanks received from Colin by PM.

Colin, it is better to reply on the thread then everyone can see. To find your thread, click on My Threads on left of screen and then click on your thread title.

Thank you all for responses.
Potty - Has confirmed the Henry & Phillis Liddiard branch upto and including my Grandfather Ralph.
Maddie -Unfortunately a different part of the tree.
KathleenBell & Pam, Some very intesting infomation,I need to it check out!
Mel Fairy Godmother - On Edward looks as if it could correct.
Flip - You are correct, can I help you in anyway? Interesting about lost at sea!
When information is check out, It imay be now possible to go further in my search.
Thank again, Colin

Hi Colin, welcome back to your thread, thought you'd got lost ;-)

So, is the marriage & christening for Henry the right one? What about the 1841 census - do you think that is possibly the right Edward?

If 1841 is correct, then Ann (or Mary Ann) has died by 1851 and Edward is with Harriett as posted earlier. If you notice, one child on that census is Albert and Harriett is with him after Edward's death as his step-mother:

Harriet Liddiard
Age: 76
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Relation: Step Mother
Gender: Female
Where born: Burbage, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Hungerford
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street Address: London Road Nursery
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: No Occupation

Registration district: Hungerford
Sub-registration district: Hungerford
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1275
Folio: 9
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Liddiard 38
Emma Liddiard 37
Frances Emma Liddiard 14
Francis Edward Liddiard 12
Katherine Annie Liddiard 6
Harriet Liddiard 76 <<<<<<<<<
Frederick Barrett 5

If on the right track, think this is his re-marriage although rather a lot of entries for 1 marriage!

Marriages Jun 1849 (>99%)
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Bartholomew William Hungerford 6 322
Claridge Lydia Hungerford 6 322
Collar Jane Hungerford 6 322
Haywood Thomas Hungerford 6 322
Jesset Harriet Hungerford 6 322
Jessett Harriet Hungerford 6 322
Jessett Harriet Hungerford 6 322
Liddiard Edward Hungerford 6 322
Liddiard Edward Hungerford 6 322
Pearce Elizabeth Hungerford 6 322
Webb Arthur Barnes Hungerford 6 322

Hi Flip, Have received recent message sent to you?
Regarding the wedding to Jessett Harriet,is there date for it?

Colin

The Harriet Jessett and Edward Liddiard marriage is in the June quarter of 1849 (so sometime in April, May or June).

Kath. x

Yes, I received your message, but it's best to keep to the thread so others may be able to help - we all have different subscriptions and knowledge of different records - so something I miss may be picked up by others.

You think Henry's mother may have been Mary Ann or Marianne - but I'm not finding anything on this in the records on familysearch or ancestry.

There's no date for the marriage to Harriet, it was from freebmd which just records the quarter/year, and doesn't give their maritial status or ages at time of marriage. The only way to verify if it is correct is to order the marriage certificate from GRO