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1911 I can't find Wiltshire family!?!

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KittytheLearnerCook

KittytheLearnerCook Report 10 Apr 2013 12:03

I have William George Wiltshire b 1881 Lyndhurst Hampshire
Wife Mary Purkess married in 1906 New Forest
Son John Stephen Wiltshire b 1908 New Forest

Can anyone find them in 1911 please?

I can't see them anywhere :-(

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 10 Apr 2013 12:38

I see he is on a lot of Ancestry trees - and nobody else seems able to locate them!
He was a porter 1901 - do you have his occupation when his son was born?
Jan

KittytheLearnerCook

KittytheLearnerCook Report 10 Apr 2013 12:41

He was a porter when his son was born too.................maybe they were travelling on that night.

Thanks for trying Jan
xx

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 10 Apr 2013 12:51

I wondered that too. As a last attempt, have you done a search for the address on John's birth cert?
Jan

KittytheLearnerCook

KittytheLearnerCook Report 10 Apr 2013 12:54

Just tried that suggestion Jan..............no luck though.

Thanks again.xx

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 10 Apr 2013 12:58

Kitty

Were there any later children?
I couldn't see any obvious ones with that surname combination when I was looking on freeBMD for clues to possible location.

I wondered if they had been mistranscribed eg. GEORGE b.Wiltshire

Not found them so far........

Gwyn

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 10 Apr 2013 13:13

Do you have any idea of when and where Mary was born or the names of her parents ?

Dea

Dea Report 10 Apr 2013 13:31

I 'assume' that this is her GB ??

1901 census transcription details for: Forest Bank, Lyndhurst
Print Close

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 1050
Folio: 40
Page: 3
Reg. District: New Forest
Sub District: Lyndhurst
Parish: Lyndhurst
Enum. District: 3
Ecclesiastical District: St Michaels
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Forest Bank, Lyndhurst
County: Hampshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
CHAWNER, Frances Sarah Head Widow F 59 1842 Living On Own Means
Reading, Berkshire
CHAWNER, Ethel Frances Daughter Single F 35 1866
Blachingley, Surrey
CHAWNER, Winiford Marion Daughter Single F 31 1870
Blachingley, Surrey
GATES, Ada May Servant Single F 32 1869 Cook Domestic
Hordle, Hampshire
LEACH, Alice Servant Single F 32 1869 Ladies Maid Domestic
Reading, Berkshire
***PURKESS, Mary Servant Single F 28 1873 Parlourmaid Domestic
Minstead, Hampshire
CURLL, Ellen Sarah Servant Single F 28 1873 Housement Domestic
Emery Down, Hampshire

But I can't find any sign of her on 1911 either.

Dea x

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 10 Apr 2013 13:38

Dea
I thought it might be her too...quite a few years older than her spouse then ?

A tree on Ancestry has them marrying in Minstead, which if correct would tie in with that.

Gwyn

Vera

Vera Report 10 Apr 2013 15:48

1911

Thought I would show you this one.......his age wrong and no John just james Goddard John as son....and different occupation !!!!.


EDIT just checking 1901


WILLSHIRE, William George Head Married M 38 1873 Seaman R L Company Selsey Sussex VIEW
WILLSHIRE, Mary Wife Married10 years F 37 1874 Soudean Hants VIEW
WILLSHIRE, William Arthur Sydney Son M 9 1902 School Southampton Hants VIEW
WILLSHIRE, James Godard John Son M 8 1903 Adopted Child Southampton Hants VIEW
WILLSHIRE, Cecil Henry Grainger Son M 4 1907 Southampton Hants VIEW
WILLSHIRE, Alfy George Norman Son M 1 1910 Southampton Hants VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 5954
Reference: RG14PN5954 RG78PN273A RD99 SD1 ED20 SN72
Registration District: Southampton
Sub District: Southampton Eastern
Enumeration District: 20
Parish: Southampton
Address: 20 Rockstone Lane Southampton
County: Hampshire

Although it states Millshire on the 1911 census image.....looking for the cecils births it is Wiltshire.


Regards Vera

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 10 Apr 2013 15:55

Worth looking at Vera, though I suspect this is that William 1901?? Maybe??

1901 England Census
Name: William Willshire
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Grandson
Mother's Name: Mary Willshire
Gender: Male
Where born: West Itchenor, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Selsey
Ecclesiastical parish: Selsey St Peter
Town: Selsey
County/Island: Sussex

Registration district: Westhampnett
Sub-registration district: Oving

William Willshire 84
Mary Willshire 49
William Willshire 29

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 10 Apr 2013 15:58

What was the address on the birth cert, out of interest? But to be honest I think they are just missing.
What sort of porter was he? Railway? Maybe they were in Scotland!! Just kidding.
Jan

Vera

Vera Report 10 Apr 2013 16:05

Hi Jan,
They could be anywhere....you know what these ancestors are like :-))


Regards Vera

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 10 Apr 2013 16:07

Sure do! :-D

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 10 Apr 2013 18:53

A possible for john's marriage


Name: WILTSHIRE, John SRegistration district: [?] New Forest County: HampshireYear of registration: 1937Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Spouse's last name HillsVolume no: [?] 2B Page no: [?] 1609

Name: HILLS, Ivy WRegistration district: New Forest County: Hampshire Year of registration: 1937 Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-MarSpouse's last name: Wiltshire Volume no: 2B Page no: 1609

Ivy W Wiltshire died in 1959 and John remarried

Deaths Dec 1959 (>99%)
WILTSHIRE Ivy W 50 New Forest 6b 367


Name: WILTSHIRE, John SRegistration district: [?] New Forest County: HampshireYear of registration: 1960Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Spouse's last name BarracloughVolume no: [?] 6B Page no: [?] 891

Name: BARRACLOUGH, VeraRegistration district: New Forest County: Hampshire Year of registration: 1960 Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-SepSpouse's last name: Wiltshire Volume no: 6B Page no: 891



Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 10 Apr 2013 19:07

Maybe George's death, New Forest covers Lyndhurst. So...were they in Lyndhurst in 1911 mis-spelt ot not entered on the census.


Deaths Jun 1955 (>99%)
Wiltshire William G 77 New Forest 6b 333

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 10 Apr 2013 19:22

Probate for William George Wiltshire.

Wiltshire William George of Home Farm, Emery Down, Lyndhurst, Hampshire died 08/05/1955 at Ashurst Hospital, Ashurst, Hampshire. Probate granted at Winchester 22nd July to John Stephen Wiltshire, chartered surveyor. Effects £2,110.

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 10 Apr 2013 19:30

And...


Deaths Mar 1957 (>99%)
WILTSHIRE Mary 84 New Forest 6b 372

Probate

Wiltshire Mary of Home Farm, Emery Down, Lyndhurst, Hants, widow, died 21/02/1957. Probat 20th March to John Stephen Wiltshire, chartered Surveyor. Effects £2,429.18.06

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 10 Apr 2013 19:59

I've checked all the 60 plus entries for Emery Down in 1911 and they weren't there.

Vera

Vera Report 10 Apr 2013 20:18

Hi Tenerife Sun
Just to let you know I also have checked all in Emery Down.....no luck either!!!!


Regards Vera