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Dyton/Dithon, Lucy Isabella looking for more info

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Sheri

Sheri Report 12 Apr 2013 00:52

Hi, My Grandmother's Mother was Lucy Dyton on her birth certificate but there was confusion with the name, and her Father's last name may be Dithon. His name was James and he was born in 1843. I don't know where he was born. His father was John Dithon and his mother's name was Mary born 1811. Lucy's mother was Ellen born 1844, and her Mother was Agnes Ellen, born 1811, if what I have found is correct. I would love to have their maiden surnames.
The family story is that Lucy was from a Romani/Gypsy family. I have not found any other information about her or her ancestors. I would like to know if anyone else has any info about this family. Thank you!! <3

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 12 Apr 2013 01:19

Hello Sheri - welcome to the boards

any idea when Lucy was born?

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 12 Apr 2013 01:24

do you have the slightest clue which part of the country the family are from

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 12 Apr 2013 01:28

stab in the dark here


Name: James Diton Family Tree
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 07 Aug 1842
Christening Place: SAINT STEPHENS,SAINT ALBANS,HERTFORD,ENGLAND
Father's Name: John Diton
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C07287-2
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 991394

Vicci

Vicci Report 12 Apr 2013 02:09

Name: Lucy Isabella Dyton
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1877
Registration district: Ipswich
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a
Page: 663

Vicci

Vicci Report 12 Apr 2013 02:27

1891
Name: Lucy Dijohn
[Lucy Dighton]
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Dijohn
Mother's Name: Emma Dijohn
Gender: Female
Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: St Helen
Ecclesiastical parish: St Helen
Town: Ipswich
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Ipswich
Sub-registration district: Ipswich Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1473
Folio: 72
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
James Dijohn 44 b. london
Emma Dijohn 48 b. yarmouth norfolk
Henry Dijohn 21
George Dijohn 18
Ellen Dijohn 16
Lucy Dijohn 13
James Dijohn 11
John Dijohn 9
Isabella Dijohn 6


Vicci

Vicci Report 12 Apr 2013 02:38

1901
Name: James Dighton
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma Dighton
Gender: Male
Where born: Puckeridge, Hertfordshire, England

Name: Emma Dighton
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Dighton
Gender: Female
Where born: Edmonton, Essex, England

Vicci

Vicci Report 12 Apr 2013 02:49

1851
Name: John Dyton
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Dyton
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Cheshunt, Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: St Albans St Peter
Town: St Albans
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: St Albans
Sub-registration district: Harpenden
ED, institution, or vessel: 1c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 153
Piece: 1713
Folio: 303
Page Number: 40
Household Members:
Name Age
John Dyton 50
Mary Dyton 40
Joseph Dyton 21
Eliza Dyton 16
William Dyton 14
John Dyton 12
James Dyton 9
Henry Dyton 7
Elizabeth Dyton 1


Name: Mary Dyton
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Dyton
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Aldenham, Hertfordshire, England

Vicci

Vicci Report 12 Apr 2013 02:53

Name: William Diton
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1838
Registration district: St Albans
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 6
Page: 417

birth certificates should give mothers maiden name

Vicci

Vicci Report 12 Apr 2013 03:18

1881
DITOHN, James Head Married M 38 1843 Hawker
Ware, Hertfordshire VIEW
DITOHN, Ellen Wife Married F 37 1844
Edmonton, Middlesex VIEW
DITOHN, Henry Son Single M 11 1870
Stowmarket, Suffolk VIEW
DITOHN, George Son Single M 9 1872
Eye, Suffolk VIEW
DITOHN, Ellen Daughter Single F 6 1875
Ipswich, Suffolk VIEW
DITOHN, Lucy Daughter Single F 3 1878
Ipswich, Suffolk VIEW
DITOHN, James Son Single M 1 1880
Ipswich, Suffolk VIEW

Piece: 1874

Folio: 28

Page: 13

Registration District: Ipswich

Civil Parish: Ipswich St Clement

Municipal Borough:

Address: Rope Walk, Ipswich St Clement

County: Suffolk

Vicci

Vicci Report 12 Apr 2013 03:29

Marriages Dec 1886 (>99%)
Bays Eliza Ipswich 4a 1545
Boston John Daniel Ipswich 4a 1545
>>>Dytohn James Ipswich 4a 1545
>>>KING Emma Ipswich 4a 1545

???

Vicci

Vicci Report 12 Apr 2013 03:57

what was ELLEn's maiden name?

Vicci

Vicci Report 12 Apr 2013 04:06

1911
says married 50 years

Name: Emma Ditohn
Age in 1911: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Colchester
Civil parish: Ipswich
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street Address: 17 Short Street, Ipswich
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 10
Estimated Marriage Year: 1901
Occupation: Assistant Business
Registration district: Ipswich
Registration District Number: 213
Sub-registration district: Ipswich Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 27
Piece: 10834
Household Members:
Name Age
James Ditohn 66
Emma Ditohn 68
Harry Ditohn 40 born STOW
Essell Dighton 15 granddaughter

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 13 Apr 2013 12:59

New poster - friendly message on how to return to thread sent. :-)

Sheri

Sheri Report 13 Apr 2013 18:32

Sorry, I hadn't forgotten....I typed a lengthy reply and lost it when my computer shut down! Thank you Ann and Vicci for doing so much to help me!!
WOW! I appreciate all the help so much!! You have found so much for me to get on with!! I can't believe I forgot to add where Lucy was born and her date of birth! I was trying to include all I thought would be helpful!! Lucy Dyton 1877 to 1922. Ipswich, Suffolk. I am hoping to find a maiden name for Lucy's mother. I have found the names Ellen and Emma for Lucy's mother and I am not sure if they are the same person or two different people. Their birth years are Ellen Agnes Vinyard 1844 and Emma 1843 ....Ellen Agnes mother appears to be Agnes Ellen Fulcher but I am not at all sure this is correct. At some point I am hoping this will make sense to me. I have found I have to keep better records of my searching so I can go back through it. You have given me new spellings for the name Dyton/Dithon that I wasn't aware of! Thank you so much for the help!

Vicci

Vicci Report 14 Apr 2013 02:11

baptism of James

Baptism Day:7

Baptism Month:Aug

Baptism Year:1842

Forenames(s):James

Surname:Diton

Father's Forename(s):John

Father's Occupation:Labourer

Mother's Forename(s):Mary Ann

Mother's Surname:

Birth Day:

Birth Month:

Birth Year:

Page:15

Place:St Albanss, St Stephen

County:Hertfordshire

Record source:Hertfordshire Baptisms - Transcripts

Data provider:Hertfordshire Archives & Local Studies

mgnv

mgnv Report 14 Apr 2013 12:45

1891 England Census Transcription
Street:72 ST HELENS STREET
Parish:ST HELEN
Town:IPSWICH
City:IPSWICH
County:Suffolk
Country:ENGLAND
Ecclesiastical District:ST HELENS
Municipal Ward:MIDDLE
Parliamentary Borough:IPSWICH
Registration District:IPSWICH
Registration Sub-District 2D Ipswich Eastern
Enumeration District:25
Archive Reference:RG12 Piece Number:1473 Folio:72 Page:13-14

JAMES DITOHN 1847 44 London HEAD M Umbrella Maker
EMMA DITOHN 1843 48 Norfolk WIFE M Umbrella Maker
HENRY DITOHN 1870 21 Eye, Suffolk SON S Quay Labourer
GEORGE DITOHN 1873 18 Stowmarket, Suffolk SON S General Dealer
ELLEN DITOHN 1875 16 Ipswich, Suffolk DAUGHTER Umbrella Maker
LUCY DITOHN 1878 13 Ipswich, Suffolk DAUGHTER
JAMES DITOHN 1880 11 Ipswich, Suffolk SON Scholar
JOHN DITOHN 1882 9 Ipswich, Suffolk SON Scholar
ISABELLA DITOHN 1885 6 Ipswich, Suffolk DAUGHTER Scholar


1901 England Census Transcription
Street:31 NEW STREET
Parish:IPSWICH ST CLEMENT
Town:
City:
County:Suffolk
Country:ENGLAND
Ecclesiastical District:ST CLEMENT
Municipal Ward:ST CLEMENT
Parliamentary Borough:IPSWICH
Registration District:IPSWICH
Registration Sub-District: Ipswich Eastern
Enumeration District:11
Archive Reference:RG13 Piece Number:1778 Folio:102 Page:8

JAMES DIGHTON 1844 57 Puckeridge, Herts HEAD M Fish Hawker
EMMA DITOHN 1846 66 Edmonton, Essex WIFE M Umbrella Mender & Hawker
HENRY DIGHTON 1871 30 Eye, Suffolk SON S Quay Labourer
GEORGE DIGHTON 1874 27 Stowmarket, Suffolk SON S Agricultural Implement Repairer
ISABELLA DIGHTON 1885 16 Ipswich, Suffolk DAUGHTER S
VICTOR DIGHTON 1894 7 Ipswich, Suffolk GRAND SON

Sheri

Sheri Report 14 Apr 2013 22:01

Thank you for the help! :-D <3

Vicci

Vicci Report 14 Apr 2013 23:37

Sheri

do you have any of the brith certificates?

you implied that you had the one for Lucy, does it give her mothers surname? you mention Ellen Agnes Vinyard??

Vicci

Vicci Report 14 Apr 2013 23:40

1861 Emma King...this might be the one who married James Dytohn in 1886

Name: Emma King
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Abel King - Fish Merchant
Mother's Name: Elisa King
Gender: Female
>>>Where born: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Gorleston
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Mutford
Sub-registration district: Gorleston
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 206
Piece: 1189
Folio: 81
Page Number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
Abel King 47
Elisa King 43
Emma King 17
Arthur King 16
William King 13
Allison King 9
Anna King 7

>>EDIT
Emma E King appears in 1901 as single living in with sister Allison in Gorleston Suffolk