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Peter

Peter Report 25 Apr 2013 15:15

Hi there,

I have looked and looked but can't find the deaths for the following:

James Lever, born c. 1817 in Bolton (living with wife Ann/Hannah Monkhouse in 1871 in Bolton, and in 1881 in Runcorn, Cheshire).

Ann died in 1901 and was a widow.

I'm also looking for information on their two sons, Joseph Lever born 1861 in Bolton, and James Lever, born 1862 again in Bolton.

Can you help find these three deaths?

Cheers,

Peter

Reggie

Reggie Report 25 Apr 2013 15:43

When were the sons last found on census returns?

Did they marry?

Did they father children?

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 25 Apr 2013 15:48

??????????

Name: Joseph Leaver
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Male
Age: 20
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Birthplace: Bolton, Lancashire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Haslingden
Sub-District: Accrington
Parish: Old Accrington
County: Lancashire

Reggie

Reggie Report 25 Apr 2013 15:48

Have you done any research using variants of the surname?

Peter

Peter Report 25 Apr 2013 15:55

Hi Reggie - James was recorded in the 1871 then NO SIGN after. Joseph was then recorded in the 1881 and again, NO SIGN after.

I'm sorry but I really don't know if they had children or married - I descend from their brother Michael Lever (1853-1913).

greyghost

greyghost Report 25 Apr 2013 15:56

Is this the 1817 James you refer to? If so he is a few years younger now!
1881 census transcription details for: 6, Queen St, Runcorn

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 3515
Folio: 92
Page: 27
Reg. District: Runcorn
Sub District: Runcorn
Parish: Runcorn
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 6, Queen St, Runcorn
County: Cheshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
LEVER, William Head Married M 37 1844 LabourerBolton, Lancashire
LEVER, Hannah Wife Married F 34 1847 Runcorn, Cheshire
LEVER, Margaret Daughter Single F 14 1867 Weston, Cheshire
LEVER, James H Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar Runcorn, Cheshire
LEVER, Sarah Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar Runcorn, Cheshire
LEVER, William Son Single M 1 1880 Runcorn, Cheshire
LEVER, James Father To Head Married M 60 1821 Waterman Bolton, Lancashire

EDIT - probably not, there are 2 James Levers born Bolton c 1821/3 and my further posting is more likely him as with wife Hannah
Will leave for now for elimination

EDIT 2 - from your comment further down the thread, then this is ? him, recorded for the second time in 1881. I see a son William b 1843 on the 1851 census

greyghost

greyghost Report 25 Apr 2013 16:01

1871 census transcription details for: Dutton's Terrace, Weston Runcorn

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 3692
Folio: 75
Page: 24
Reg. District: Runcorn
Sub District: Runcorn
Parish: Weston Runcorn
Enum. District: 16
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Dutton's Terrace, Weston Runcorn
County: Cheshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
LEVER, James Head M 50 1821 Lancashire
LEVER, Ann Wife F 48 1823 Lancashire
LEVER, Michael Son M 17 1854 Lancashire
LEVER, James Son M 9 1862 Lancashire

all b Bolton
EDIT - James Snr and Michael both Chemical Labourers

Peter

Peter Report 25 Apr 2013 16:03

Hi Stuart, yes it appears that James Lever SENIOR (born c. 1817) appears TWICE in the 1881 census. But this is the last I see of him.

Does this help?

Astra

Astra Report 25 Apr 2013 16:07

Possible death

Deaths Mar 1890 (>99%)
Lever James 73 Ashton 8d 464

greyghost

greyghost Report 25 Apr 2013 16:07

1881 census transcription details for: Weston Terrace, Weston

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 3517
Folio: 94
Page: 26
Reg. District: Runcorn
Sub District: Runcorn
Parish: Weston
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Weston Terrace, Weston
County: Cheshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
LEVER, James Head Married M 58 1823 General Lab Bolton, Lancashire
LEVER, Hannah Wife Married F 58 1823 Bolton, Lancashire
LEVER, Joseph Son Single M 20 1861 General Lab Bolton, Lancashire

greyghost

greyghost Report 25 Apr 2013 16:46

? Joseph 1891
1891 census transcription details for: 42, Princess Street, Runcorn

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 2832
Folio: 99
Page: 33
Reg. District: Runcorn
Sub District: Runcorn
Parish: Runcorn
Enum. District: 11
Ecclesiastical District: All Saints
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 42, Princess Street, Runcorn
County: Cheshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
LEVER, Joseph Head Married M 28 1863 General LabourerBolton, Lancashire
LEVER, Sarah J Wife Married F 24 1867 Runcorn, Cheshire
LEVER, Maggie Daughter F 4 1887 Runcorn, Cheshire
LEVER, Joseph Son M 1 1890 Runcorn, Cheshire
DOWN, Charlotte Boarder Widow F 81 1810 Runcorn, Cheshire

greyghost

greyghost Report 25 Apr 2013 16:55

??? Civil Registration event: Marriage

Print Close
Name: LEVER, Joseph
Registration district: Prescot
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1885
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 8B
Page no: 979
MarriageFinder: Joseph Lever married one of the following people:

CLUCAS, Elizabeth
ELLISON, Sarah Jane<<<<<<<<<<< ??
OKELL, Joseph

Not sure why Prescot RD but a Joseph and Elizabeth Okell are also to be found in Runcorn 1891 census

greyghost

greyghost Report 25 Apr 2013 17:01

??1901 census transcription details for: 71, Gillow Street, Manchester

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 3746
Folio: 119
Page: 19
Reg. District: Manchester
Sub District: Central
Parish: Manchester
Enum. District: 4
Ecclesiastical District: St Matthew
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 71, Gillow Street, Manchester
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
LEVER, Joseph Head Married M 39 1862 Carriers Labourer Runcorn, Cheshire
LEVER, Sarah J Wife Married F 34 1867 Runcorn, Cheshire
LEVER, Maggie Daughter Single F 14 1887 Runcorn, Cheshire
LEVER, Joseph Son M 12 1889 Runcorn, Cheshire
LEVER, Walter Son M 9 1892 Runcorn, Cheshire
LEVER, John Son M 5 1896 Runcorn, Cheshire
LEVER, James Son M 3 1898 Runcorn, Cheshire
SUMMERS, Marion F Boarder Married F 22 1879 General Domestic Hereford
SUMMERS, Elizabeth E Daughter F 12 1889 Manchester, Lancashire
SUMMERS, Charles A Son M 0 (8 MOS) 1901 Manchester, Lancashire

Peter

Peter Report 25 Apr 2013 19:35

Wow thank you so much - well, I need to see that marriage certificate from 1885! But yes, this seems probable. I actually have access to ancestry but as I am sure you know, sometimes, the nudge from an outside eye makes all of the difference.

Well, the Prescot marriage in 1885 is interesting, as Joseph's brother William Lever (shown in the 1881 with James SENIOR), was married in Farnworth, near PRESCOT in 1866 as was their sister Sarah Lever, who married there in Oct. Qrt 1879 to James Hibbert (even though her children were born and raised in Runcorn, I think she is the lady who died in Prescot District in 1943).

My ancestor, and the aforementioned's brother, Micheal Lever (1853-1871) married in Warrington in 1871 - I assume this was some kind of elopement, especially as his father is recorded as John NOT James ... I searched and searched around this, and it seems to have been a lie on the part of the groom, or a clerical error?

The question is, WHY would they marry there? And why would James SENIOR die so far from home if he was the one who died in ASHTON in 1890?

I'm going to look for a death for Joseph Lever and will post findings.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 25 Apr 2013 22:49

I wonder if the James b1862 shown in the 1871 census is actually a grandson rather than son.

Of the 6 (poss 8) children on Lancs bmd with mmn = Monkhouse the only James is born in 1851.

there are a few James born 1861/62 with other mmn

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Apr 2013 10:33

I did wonder lancashireAnn as was unable to find the family in the 1861 census - the children I did find on other census' were rather spread out in age, but I'm sure the 1861 would have "filled some gaps"

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Apr 2013 10:56

Not seeing Joseph and his family 1911. Wondering about the deaths below - they were in Manchester 1901 and the Sarah J death is Chorlton RD - Chorlton is part of Manchester.

??Civil Registration event: Death

Name: LEVER, Joseph
Registration district: Stockport
County: Cheshire
Year of registration: 1939
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 77
Volume no: 8A
Page no: 5


Civil Registration event: Death

Name: LEVER, Sarah J
Registration district: Chorlton
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1911
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 44
Volume no: 8C
Page no: 1282

Peter

Peter Report 26 Apr 2013 20:24

From the previous census returns this seems to be Joseph in 1911 (incorrect birth place recorded):

1911 England Census about Joseph Lever
Name: Joseph Lever
Age in 1911: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation to Head: Husband
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Runcorn
Civil parish: South Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 84 Crown St Hulme M/c
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Labourer
Registration district: Chorlton
Registration District Number: 464
Sub-registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Piece: 23902
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Lever 56
George Dutton 15
Annie Dutton 19
Sarah Jane Lever 46
Maggie Lever 23
Joseph Lever 21
Walter Lever 17
John Lever 15
James Lever 12
Harry Lever 7
Annie Lever 4

Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 23902.

Peter

Peter Report 26 Apr 2013 21:36

Hmmmm just looking at some records - seems the children of James and Hannah 'Ann' Monkhouse Lever are:

William Monkhouse (1843 born before their marriage in 1845, who died in 1904)
Hannah Lever (1846)
John Henry Lever (1850-1850)
James Lever (1851)
Michael Lever (1853-1913)
Sarah Elizabeth Lever (1856-1943)
Joseph Lever (1861-1939)
James Lever (1862)

Frustratingly there are OTHER James and Hannah/Ann Levers baptising/burying children in Bolton at that time. Lever seems to be a very common name there!

Does this help, find out where James born 1862 fits in?
Could he be a son of Hannah, born 1862?

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 26 Apr 2013 22:45

all the others have mmn = Monkhouse on lancashirebmd, but there is no James with either mmn = Monkhouse or Lever as presumably he would have been if he was Hannah's (1862) son

could he be a nephew???