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Don't think we can get any further with this without one of her children's birth certificates, or one of Mary or Robert's marriage certificates to see if the father is named - although both could name Robert if that was what they were led to believe

At least one of their birth certs would also give mothers maiden name, and confirm or disprove whether the mother was married to Robert, and at least if she was married then it would give a lead in finding her in 1841 under her maiden name.

Ann Jennison
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Eastwood, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Bowling
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: 8 Lancaster Street
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Laundress
Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Bowling
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4438
Folio: 76
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Jennison 47
Margaret Jennison 13
James Jennison 11

Deaths Dec 1884 (>99%)
JENNISON Ann 51 Bradford Y. 9b 42

So Alice is Mary's daughter, and I think this may explain why Ann went to Yorkshire and appears to have died there:

Frederick George Bendig
Age in 1911: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Bradford
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 49 Marshall Street
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Woolcombing Machine Hand
Registration district: Bradford
Registration District Number: 498
Sub-registration district: Horton
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Piece: 26841
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick George Bendig 46
Edward Bendig 6
Mary Nelson 60 (states grandmother)
Alice Bendig 42
Ernest Bendig 22
Frederick George Bendig 17
William Bendig 14
Alice Bendig 12
Aurther Bendig 11
Harold Bendig 8

All children born in Bradford, Mary Nelson Afreton, Alice in Eastwood.

Added, there was no father stated on Alice's marriage in Bradford 1888.

1871 - definitely says 1 year old - Alice Armeson



would imagine Alice is Mary's daughter


1881

RG number: RG11
Piece: 3362
Folio: 71
Page: 57
Reg. District: Nottingham
Sub District: Exchange
Parish: Nottingham St Mary
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 5, Hartford St, Nottingham St Mary
County: Nottinghamshire


MARSH, Robert Head Married M 32 1849 Machine Fitter At Works (Spinner & C)
Nottingham
NELSON, Mary Visitor Married F 30 1851 Lace Hand
Alfreton, Derbyshire
ARMISON, Alice Visitor Single F 12 1869 Scholar
Eastwood, Nottinghamshire




Marriages Jun 1873 (>99%)
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>>>>>ARMESON Mary Basford 7b 212
King Eliza Basford 7b 212
>>>>>NELSON Charles Basford 7b 212
Slack Thomas Basford 7b 212

Ann and Mary 'fit' with the 1861 census posted (as to birth places) other than Ann's age. Could she have 'knocked off' a few years to be nearer to the age of second 'husband'? :-(

Trouble is Choccy, she is quite consistent with her age in later census - and would be too young for that marriage.

Added: although that 1851 census looks pretty good for them. I found Mary in 1871 back in Derbyshire, will take another look see if I can find it again.

Just posting 1871 for info, and query re the grandchild:

Ann Armeson
[Ann Jennison]
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Christopher Jennison
Mother's Name: Ann Jennison
Gender: Female
Where born: Pye Bidge, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Eastwood
Town: Eastwood
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Greasley
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 157
Piece: 3477
Folio: 16
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
Christopher Jennison 40
Ann Jennison 37
Robert Armeson 16
John Thos Jennison 13
Ann Armeson 17
Elizabeth Jennison 9
Margaret Jennison 3
James Jennison 1
Alice Jennison 1 Month <<mis-transcribed.

Alice is Armeson not Jennison, and I think the image state 1 year not 1 month. Maybe someone else could take a look. She could be the daughter of Ann or Mary.

???

2 possibles

Marriages Sep 1842 (>99%)
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>>>>>ARMISON Robert Basford 15 501
EDSON Mary Basford 15 501
>>>>>HOLMES Ann Basford 15 501
JOHNSON Nathan Basford 15 501
LADDTHORPE Sarah Basford 15 501
PECK Leonard Basford 15 501
>>>>>SIMONS Ann Basford 15 501
THORPE Sarah Ladd Basford 15 501
TOMLINSON Noah Basford 15 501

this looks like Ann and daughter Mary in 1851



1851

RG number: HO107
Piece: 2145
Folio: 340
Page: 40
Reg. District: Belper
Sub District: Alfreton
Parish:
Enum. District: 1
Ecclesiastical District: Alfreton
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Outseats, Alfreton
County: Derbyshire

BLACKSHAW, James Head Married M 32 1819 Tailor
Rolleston, Staffordshire
BLACKSHAW, Eliza Wife Married F 27 1824 Shop Keeper
Higham, Derbyshire
>>>>>HARMELIASON, Ann Visitor Married F 29 1822 Seamstress
Eastwood, Nottinghamshire
>>>>>HARMELIASON, Mary Visitor F 0 (1 MOS) 1851
Alfreton, Derbyshire
FROST, Ann Sister-In-Law F 7 1844 Scholar
Alfreton, Derbyshire
FROST, Ellen Sister-In-Law F 5 1846 Scholar
Alfreton, Derbyshire



Births Mar 1851

HARMELISSON Mary Belper 19 481

I wonder if Robert actually existed? Mother Ann was consistent with her age and place of birth through the census 1861 onwards as was daughter Ann.

Can't find a birth registration for Mary (on 1861 census born Alfreton, Derbyshire), but Ann and Robert's birth tie in with their stated birth places. Maybe one of the certificates could confirm their parentage:

Births Sep 1853 (>99%)
Harmeson Ann Belper 7b 363 X - this is a mis-transcription
Harmeson Ann Belper 7b 383

Births Jun 1855 (>99%)
Harmisson Robert Basford 7b 96

Now, that earlier christening I posted for Robert Armison in 1834, father Robert, mother Alice - they had 2 other children:

Mary Ann Armison
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 02 Sep 1832
Christening Place: RADFORD,NOTTINGHAM,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Robert Armison
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Alice
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04664-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 504529, 504530, 504531

And William, ch 14/10/1827, Radford.

I wonder if this could be your Ann, not married when the children were born?? Could do with finding the family on a census to cross check.

Thank you all for your help
I have marriage certificate,Witnesses hard to read looks like Edward Walker... Thomas Cooper.

Ann was born 1852 Pie Bridge,Derbyshire
have been unable to find her father Robert Armeisson in any census.

Problem Armeisson as different spelling, not sure on birth date :(

Ann's mother did re marry Chris Jennison
found information through genesreunited & LDS
Cheers Doreen

Hi Fredk, I think marriage licence is the same as certificate - some people used to call them licences - so should have both fathers names and usually occupations.

I can't see them either in 1881, maybe they were keeping a low profile if he was still married! Yes I think we need feedback on how Doreen arrived at Robert's age.

I have not found the family in 1881 - await feedback from poster?

Flip
I think she said Marriage licence not Marriage Certificate. Does a licence give parents

Yes, I've just found that, so probably the wrong one.

A tree on ancestry has Ann's father as James - 1813 but there is nothing to back it up and as Doreen has the marriage certificate it can't be right.

Thought that was this one, Flip
1861 England Census
Robert Armeson
Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Brother-in-law
Gender: Male Where born: Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Basford Ecclesiastical parish: Basford
County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England
Registration district: Basford Sub-registration district: Basford
ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 15 Piece: 2439 Folio: 62 Page Number: 3
Jame Charlton 43
Mary Charlton 40
Caroline Armeson 29 sister mar
Robert Armeson 26 brolaw mar
Elizabeth Armeson 26 sister un
Mary Ann Lee 9 niece
William Armeson 2 nephew
Caroline Armeson 4 Months niece
Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 2439; Folio: 62; Page: 3; GSU roll: 542971.

Possible???

Robert Armison
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 12 Oct 1834
Christening Place: RADFORD,NOTTINGHAM,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Robert Armison
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Alice
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04664-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 504529, 504530, 504531

Just for ref
1891 England Census
Thomas Pepperday Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Pepperday
Gender: Male Where born: Codnor, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Mansfield Ecclesiastical parish: Pleasley Town: Pleasley County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England
Registration district: Mansfield Sub-registration district: Mansfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Piece: 2656 Folio: 50 Page Number: 7
Thomas Pepperday 50
Ann Pepperday 39
Thomas Pepperday 15 Newhall Derbyshire
Samuel Pepperday 13 Old radford, Notts
Mary Ann Pepperday 11 Old radford, Notts
Georgianna Pepperday 9 Old radford, Notts
Joseph Pepperday 6 Old radford, Notts
Enoch Pepperday 4 Old radford, Notts
Elijah Pepperday 1
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2656; Folio: 50; Page: 7; GSU Roll: 6097766.

For Reference

1891 Census Household Record
Household Information
Address Cock Lane
Parish Mansfield
District Mansfield, Mansfield
Administrative County Nottinghamshire
Householder 1
Name Thomas Pepperday
Age 50
Estimated Year of Birth 1841
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Coal Miner
Birth Place Codnor
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 2
Name Ann Pepperday
Age 39
Estimated Year of Birth 1852
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Paybridge
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 3
Name Thomas Pepperday
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1876
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Coal Miner
Birth Place Newall
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 4
Name Samuel Pepperday
Age 13
Estimated Year of Birth 1878
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Coal Miner
Birth Place Radford
Birth County Nottinghamshire
Householder 5
Name Mary Ann Pepperday
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1880
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Radford
Birth County Nottinghamshire
Householder 6
Name Georgianna Pepperday
Age 9
Estimated Year of Birth 1882
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Radford
Birth County Nottinghamshire
Householder 7
Name Joseph Pepperday
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1885
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Radford
Birth County Nottinghamshire
Householder 8
Name Enoch Pepperday
Age 4
Estimated Year of Birth 1887
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Radford
Birth County Nottinghamshire
Householder 9
Name Elijah Pepperday
Age 1
Estimated Year of Birth 1890
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Pleasley Hill
Birth County Nottinghamshire

There is another member on here who has a Robert Armeisson born 1830, Nottinghamshire, in his tree.
Worth trying to contact him?

Added:
There are many members with Ann in their trees.
But Ann and Robert appear to be the only Armeissons showing.