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Jo101

Jo101 Report 9 May 2013 19:33

Can anyone help - I am looking for any details regarding a Matha Ella Ling born in Surrey in 1910 - Any help would be really appreciated.

Andrew

Andrew Report 9 May 2013 19:36

1911 census with family

1911 England Census
about Martha Ella Ling
Name: Martha Ella Ling
Age in 1911: 4m
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Brookwood, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Woking
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address: 2 Hazel Cottages, Brookwood, Surrey
Registration district: Guildford
Registration District Number: 33
Sub-registration district: Woking
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 122
Piece: 3041
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Ling 40
Ada Ling 40
Basil Edward Ling 7
Eva Dora Ada Ling 6
Percy Ernest Ling 4
Frank Alfred Ling 2
Martha Ella Ling 4m
William Arthur Lugg


Andy

Fredk

Fredk Report 9 May 2013 19:40


1911 Census Household Record
Household information
Address 2 Hazel Cottage Brookwood
Parish Woking
Town Brookwood
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms Five
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN3041 RG78PN107 RD33 SD1 ED14 SN122
Administrative County Surrey
Registration District Guildford
Registration Sub District Woking
Enumeration District 14
Householder 1
Name Edward Ling
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married Married
Gender M
Age 40
Estimated Year of Birth 1871
Occupation Carman To Coal Merchant
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Marylebone London
Nationality Britsh
Householder 2
Name Ada Ling
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married Married / 8 Years
Total Children Born Alive 5
Children Still Living 5
Children Who Have Died 0
Gender F
Age 40
Estimated Year of Birth 1871
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Raydon Suffolk
Nationality British
Householder 3
Name Basil Edward Ling
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1904
Occupation School
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Wokingham Berkshire
Householder 4
Name Eva Dora Ada Ling
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1905
Occupation School
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Knaphill Woking Surrey
Householder 5
Name Percy Ernest Ling
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 4
Estimated Year of Birth 1907
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth West End Chobham Surrey
Householder 6
Name Frank Alfred Ling
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1909
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Brookwood Woking Surrey
Householder 7
Name Martha Ella Ling
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 4 Months
Estimated Year of Birth 1911
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Brookwood Woking Surrey
Householder 8
Name William Arthur Lugg
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender M
Age 29
Estimated Year of Birth 1882
Occupation Cab Driver To Job Master
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Ilfracombe Devonshire
Nationality British

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 May 2013 19:44

FMP version...

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: LING, Martha Ella
Address: 2 Hazel Cottage Brookwood

LING, Edward Head Married M 40 1871 Carman To Coal Merchant Marylebone London VIEW
LING, Ada Wife Married8 years F 40 1871 Raydon Suffolk VIEW
LING, Basil Edward Son M 7 1904 School Wokingham Berkshire VIEW
LING, Eva Dora Ada Daughter F 6 1905 School Knaphill Woking Surrey VIEW
LING, Percy Ernest Son M 4 1907 West End Chobham Surrey VIEW
LING, Frank Alfred Son M 2 1909 Brookwood Woking Surrey VIEW
LING, Martha Ella Daughter F 0 (4 MONTHS) 1911 Brookwood Woking Surrey VIEW
LUGG, William Arthur Lodger Single M 29 1882 Cab Driver To Job Master Ilfracombe Devonshire VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 3041
Reference: RG14PN3041 RG78PN107 RD33 SD1 ED14 SN122
Registration District: Guildford
Sub District: Woking
Enumeration District: 14
Parish: Woking
Address: 2 Hazel Cottage Brookwood
County: Surrey
(5 children born and living)

Flip

Flip Report 9 May 2013 19:44

Hi Jo101

Where are you trying to go with this - forward to her descendants or backwards into her ancestry?

What research have you already done on her?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 May 2013 19:46

her birth
Births Dec 1910
LING Martha E Guildford 2a 77

Andrew

Andrew Report 9 May 2013 19:48

Parents marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%)
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Ling Edward W. Ham 4a 99
Welham Ada W. Ham 4a 99


Andy

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 May 2013 19:48

her brother
Name: Basil E Ling
Spouse Surname: Street
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1931
Registration district: Farnham
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 234
Find Spouse: Kathleen V M Street


so family was still in Surrey


Name: Basil E Ling
Birth Date: abt 1904
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1968
Age at Death: 64
Registration district: Surrey South Western
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 5g
Page: 441


not seeing a birth for a Kathleen V M Street

Wonder if this is her

Name: Kathleen V Ling
Birth Date: abt 1910
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1948
Age at Death: 38
Registration district: Surrey South Western
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 5g
Page: 893

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 May 2013 19:52

looking for a marriage for Martha but not seeing one .as yet .

so looking at siblings

Name: Eva Dora A Ling
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1904
Registration district: Guildford
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 71

died young unfortunately

Name: Eva D A Ling
Birth Date: abt 1904
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1931
Age at Death: 27
Registration district: Guildford
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 180

Andrew

Andrew Report 9 May 2013 19:59

Looking at this death.....

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Ella Martha Roberts
Name: Ella Martha Roberts
Birth Date: 3 Nov 1910
Date of Registration: Dec 1987
Age at Death: 77
Registration district: Surrey North-western
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 17
Page: 829



Marriage, but out of area??

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marriages Jun 1939 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Ling Ella M Roberts Holywell 11b 397
Roberts Kenneth S Ling Holywell 11b 397


Andy

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 May 2013 20:00

1881 England Census
about Ada Welham
Name: Ada Welham
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Frederick Welham
Mother's Name: Harriet Welham
Gender: Female
Where born: Raydon, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Raydon
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address: Chaple House-Upper Street
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Samford
Sub-registration district: Capel St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1864
Folio: 78
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick Welham 44 (Bricklayer)
Harriet Welham 42
Kate Welham 15
Alfred Welham 13
Harry Welham 12
Ada Welham 10
Thirsa Welham 8
Martha Welham 5
Eva Welham 2


1871 England Census
about Ada Welham
Name: Ada Welham
Age: 4 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Frederick Welham
Mother's Name: Harriet Welham
Gender: Female
Where born: Raydon, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Raydon
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Samford
Sub-registration district: Capel St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 40
Piece: 1746
Folio: 85
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick Welham 35 (Bricklayers Journeyman)
Harriet Welham 32
Kate Welham 5
Alfred Welham 3
Harry Welham 2
Ada Welham 4 Months


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Ada Welham
Name: Ada Welham
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1870
Registration district: Samford
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a
Page: 551






PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 May 2013 20:06

Household transcription
1911 census
Person: WELHAM, Harriet
Address: Upper Street Layham Hadleigh Suffolk

WELHAM, Fredrck Head Married M 75 1836 Bricklayer Lomesham Suff VIEW
WELHAM, Harriet Wife Marred45 years F 72 1839 Raydon Suffolk VIEW
WELHAM, Alfred Son Single M 43 1868 Carpenter Layham Suffolk VIEW
WELHAM, Harry Son Single M 42 1869 Farm Labourer Raydon Suffolk VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 10594
Reference: RG14PN10594 RG78PN568 RD206 SD2 ED12 SN31
Registration District: Cosford
Sub District: Hadleigh
Enumeration District: 12
Parish: Layham
Address: Upper Street Layham Hadleigh Suffolk
County: Suffolk
(8 children born, 7 living, 1 had died)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 May 2013 20:19

Marriages Mar 1866 (>99%)
HOPES Harriet Samford 4a 725
WELHAM Frederick Samford 4a 725



1861 England Census
about Frederick Welham
Name: Frederick Welham
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Somersham, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Raydon
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Samford
Sub-registration district: Capel St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 130
Piece: 1159
Folio: 94
Page Number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
John Welham 33
Eliza Welham 33
John Welham 12
Eliza Welham 9
Ellen Welham 9
Georgina Welham 4
Kate Welham 1
Frederick Welham 24 (Bricklayers Journeyman)
Sarah Ann Cutcher 17





PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 May 2013 20:44

1851 England Census
about Frederic Willham
Name: Frederic Willham
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert Willham
Mother's Name: Martha Willham
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Somersham, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Somersham
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Bosmere
Sub-registration district: Coddenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 67
Piece: 1797
Folio: 557
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Willham 55 (Bricklayer)
Martha Willham 49
George Willham 17
Frederic Willham 15 (Bricklayer)
Isaac Willham 14
Hannah Willham 12
Elizth Willham 9
Eliza Willham 6
Mary Anne Willham


England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Frederic Welham
Name: Frederic Welham
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 31 May 1835
Christening Place: Somersham, Suffolk, England
Father's Name: Robert Welham
Mother's Name: Martha



1841 England Census
about Robert William
Name: Robert William
[Robert Welham]
[Robert Wellham]
[Robert Wellham]
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Where born: Nettlestead, Suffolk, England
[Suffolk, England]

Civil parish: Somersham
Hundred: Bosmere and Claydon
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Bosmere
Sub-registration district: Bramford
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1019
Book: 8
Folio: 8
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Robert William 45
Martha William 35
James William 15
Martha William 15
Sarah William 14
John William 12
Frederic William 6
Isaac William 4
Hannah William 2
Elizabeth William 5 Mo
George William 8









PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 May 2013 21:00

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Robert Welham
Name: Robert Welham
Probate Date: 1 Jun 1872
Death Date: 19 Jul 1871
Death Place: Suffolk, England
Registry: Ipswich

1 June. The Will with a Codicil of of Robert Welham late of Somersham in the County of Suffolk Bricklayer who died 19th July 1872 at Somersham was proved at Ipswich by John Welham of Raydon in the said County Bricklayer and Builder and James Welham of Hintlsham in the said County Bricklayer the Sons the Executors.

Effects: Under £20

Jo101

Jo101 Report 9 May 2013 21:15

Thank you all so much for such swift responses. Pretty new to all this. I have found a lot from the census records but am really trying to find out more about Martha and if she has any living relatives.
Thank you again for help so far. Any more news on Martha would be fantastic. ;-)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 May 2013 22:44

I too thought the Roberts/ Ling marriage could be her.
The only way to confirm this would be to get some certs.

Have a look on FreeBMD because there are possible Roberts mmn Ling births from 1940 onwards in Surrey.

Afraid no one can confirm if thisis Martha s family you would have to decide if its worth getting some certs for the info

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 May 2013 23:01

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1324547

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 May 2013 23:05

Try looking for info on freebmd

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 May 2013 09:37

Death

Name: LING, Percy E
Registration district: Surrey South Western
County: Surrey
Year of registration: 1966
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death:59
Volume no: 5G
Page no: 368