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Edna May Leduc

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Danetree

Danetree Report 14 May 2013 12:49

The lady married Douglas W Crisell Aug 1937 age 23, she lived with the Tuck family in Enfield area. This I posted in April. Since then I found a father who attended her wedding, named Richard Louis Leduc who is recorded as a waiter. Can you help please. Looking for place of birth and her family connections

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 14 May 2013 13:15

Is your original thread still on the boards as might have been better just to nudge it up and update your request.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 14 May 2013 13:18

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1321319

Margee

Margee Report 14 May 2013 13:21

Does she name Richard as her father on the marriage certificate?

Danetree

Danetree Report 14 May 2013 13:39

Fathers name and Surname
Richard Louis Leduc
Rank or Profession of Father
Waiter

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 14 May 2013 15:00

What proof have you that her father attended the wedding please? Or is that just the name that she gives for her father when she married Douglas?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 14 May 2013 15:08

Was she economical with the truth about her age when she married or did the informant on her death registration get her birth year wrong?

Name: Edna May Crisell
Birth Date: 11 Jan 1907 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Date of Registration: Nov 1991
Age at Death: 84
Registration district: Enfield
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 12
Page: 687

Danetree

Danetree Report 14 May 2013 15:42

I have the marriage cert - St George's Enfield 01/08/1937 Edna May Leduc was 7yrs older than her intended, I see no reason for lies. The Tuck family also agree with the birth estimate

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 14 May 2013 17:50

So who registered her death? The date of birth on that seems to be 11 Jan 1907, so in August 1937 she would have been 30 years old? Or did you mean that Douglas was 23 years old when they married?

Was she related to the Tuck family please?

Have you considered that her birth may not have been registered as Leduc?

alviegal

alviegal Report 14 May 2013 17:51

A tree on ancestry has this for her. It is unsourced and Violet would have been 12 when she had her if she really was the mother.



Birth
1907 11 Jan
JERSEY Channel Islands Channel Islands



Marriage to Douglas William Crisell
1937 3Q Age: 30
EDMONTON MIDDX



Death
1991 1 Nov Age: 84
ENFIELD Middlesex England



Parents

Fredrick Charles Tuck 1890 – 1946
Violet Lillian Terry 1895 – 1992

alviegal

alviegal Report 14 May 2013 17:58

She has been given the middle name of Mabel here. Still with the Tucks.


London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about Edna Mabel Leduc
Name: Edna Mabel Leduc
Year: 1933
County or Borough: Enfield
Ward or Division/Constituency: Enfield
Street Address: 39 ENFIELD WARHi

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 14 May 2013 18:14

Name: Edna Mabel Leduc
Year: 1933
County or Borough: Enfield
Ward or Division/Constituency: Enfield
Street Address: 39 ENFIELD WARHi

Also there Frederick Charles Tuck and Violet Lilian Tuck


Regarding the tree on Ancestry
Not sure how Violet could be her mother if she was born 1895 and Edna in 1907?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 14 May 2013 18:16

This looks like Frederick and Violet's marriage?

Marriages Jun 1917 (>99%)
Terry Violet L Tuck Islington 1b 433
Tuck Frederick C Terry Islington 1b 433



Name: Frederick Charles Tuck, Soldier
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Age: 27
Spouse Name: Violet Lilian Terry
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 27 May 1917
Parish: Holloway St James
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Ernest Tuck, Butcher
Spouse Father Name: William Valentine Terry, Butcher
Register Type: Parish Register

Witnesses Ernest Edward Tuck and William Valentine Terry

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 14 May 2013 18:36

1911

Name: Frederick Tuck
Age in 1911: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Old, Kent, England
Civil parish: Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 65 Whistler Street, Drayton Park, Highbury, Holloway N
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: GROCER ASSISTANT SHOP
Registration district: Islington
Registration District Number: 10
Sub-registration district: Highbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Piece: 987
Household Members:
Name Age
Ernest Tuck 55
Margerate Elizibeth Tuck 53
Ernest Edward Tuck 27
Herbert Tuck 24
Frederick Tuck 21
Albert George Tuck 19
Sidney Walter Tuck 18
Marian Voilet Tuck 16
Florence Tuck 15
Margaret Ethel Tuck 12
Cyril Stanley Tuck 11

Married 30 years, 14 children born, 12 living 2 had died.

Marriages Jun 1880 (>99%)
Ingleton Louisa Charlotte Pancras 1b 155
Norris Margaret Elizabeth Pancras 1b 155
Tuck Ernest Pancras 1b 155
Wood John Everett S Pancras 1b 155



1911

Name: Violet Lillian Terry
Age in 1911: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Hammersmith
Civil parish: Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 8 Burnard Place, Holloway N
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: KITCHENMAID
Registration district: Islington
Registration District Number: 10
Sub-registration district: Lower Holloway
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Piece: 859
Household Members:
Name Age
William Terry 45
Emily Louise Terry 44
Chirstopher Charles Terry 17
Violet Lillian Terry 15
Florance Maud Terry 12
Laura Jane Terry 7
Winneefried May Terry 3

Married 21 years, 9 children born, 5 living 4 had died.

Marriages Dec 1889 (>99%)
Gosden Maria Fulham 1a 467
HARRIN Charles May Fulham 1a 467
Sanders Emily Louise Fulham 1a 467
TERRY William Valentin Fulham 1a 467



Have you tracked the siblings of Frederick and Violet please?

Danetree

Danetree Report 14 May 2013 20:12

There is no connection between the Tuck family and Edna May Leduc. My father in law Ernest Charles Tuck always remembers Edna in the household, she was there until her marriage in 1937, when Ernest was 17yrs old. At that time no one questioned her existence. E C Tuck is now 92yrs old and it's for him that this search is for.
The information on ancestry is mine. I've searched all tree's on most sites without success. There are no records of her father in the channel Isles. Maybe Richard Louis Leduc is French Canadian.
My tree states born in Ch Isles but this was a guess

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 May 2013 20:44

Danetree - do I take it that Edna May and Douglas never had children?

Can't see any Crisell/Leduc births.

Danetree

Danetree Report 14 May 2013 20:52

Correct no children.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 May 2013 20:56

I've been searching worldwide records and although there are a few Richard Louis Leducs (and variants) none of them could be her father as they were born after her.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 14 May 2013 21:03


?

Is this worth concidering ,,,,Le Duc could have been a step father?

1913,

Marriage.

Holborn,

Louis R Le Duc

Harriett L Searle,
----------------------
Birth.

Lewisham,

1907,

Edna May Searle.

Danetree

Danetree Report 14 May 2013 22:12

Thanks Kay, the date and names fit. Maybe it's the way to go. Best idea yet.