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Angela

Angela Report 9 Jun 2013 14:50

looking for wifes and parents names of fredrick john thomas born 1880 lived in newport sth wales father to kenneth donald and norman ,can someone please help :-(, lived on sutton rd newport ,kenneth and donald birth years may not be right ,Norman's birth is right ,he is my Dad, married to Ilma Audrey Williams now both deceased :-( kenneth Married to trixie ,i think this was his 2nd wife ,there was a shirley but i never new her ,have found out fredrick's wife could be Elizabeth Harding

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 9 Jun 2013 14:58

Is this the right Frederick in the 1911 census? :-

1911 census transcription details for: 167 Caerleon Road Npt Mon

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN31991 RG78PN1840 RD587 SD2 ED32 SN304
Reg. District: Newport
Sub District: Newport
Parish: Newport
Enum. District: 32

Address: 167 Caerleon Road Npt Mon
County: Monmouthshire

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

THOMAS, Elizabeth Head Widow F 61 1850 London
THOMAS, Sarah Ann Daughter Single F 36 1875 Asbestos Packing Maker Monmouthshire Newport
THOMAS, Frederick John Son Single M 32 1879 Brewers Clerk Monmouthshire Newport<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
THOMAS, Jessie Daughter Single F 22 1889 Monmouthshire Newport
JONES, Alfred Boarder Single M 19 1892 Shop Assistant Monmouthshire Abergavenny

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 9 Jun 2013 15:03

Do you know when the three sons were born?

Kath. x

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 9 Jun 2013 15:04

???????????

Name: Frederick John Thomas
Event Type: Banns
Event Date: 26 May 1907
Event Place: Aberystruth, Monmouthshire, Wales
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Spouse's Name: Violet May Elizabeth Withers
GS Film number: 2414903
Digital Folder Number: 004394436

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 9 Jun 2013 15:05

Name: Frederick John Thomas
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 19 Jun 1907
Event Place: Aberystruth, Monmouthshire, Wales
Age: 27
Birth Year (Estimated): 1880
Spouse's Name: Violet Mary Elizabeth Withers
GS Film number: 2414903
Digital Folder Number: 004394436

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 9 Jun 2013 15:10

?????????????

Name: Kenneth Thomas
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Gender: Male
Age: 6
Birthplace: Abersychan, Monmouthshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Pontypridd
Sub-District: Eglwysilan
Parish: Eglwysilan
County: Glamorganshire

Mike *

Mike * Report 9 Jun 2013 15:24

That Kenneth aged 6 in 1911 was with parents Philip and Eliza

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 9 Jun 2013 15:31

These are the marriages for the name Frederick J. Thomas between 1911 and 1921 in Newport:-


Name: THOMAS, Frederick J
Registration district: Newport (Monmouthshire)
County: Monmouthshire
Year of registration: 1913
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Beavan
Volume no: 11A
Page no: 498

Name: BEAVAN, Mary
Registration district: Newport (Monmouthshire)
County: Monmouthshire
Year of registration: 1913
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Thomas
Volume no: 11A
Page no: 498

or:-

Name: THOMAS, Frederick J
Registration district: Newport (Monmouthshire)
County: Monmouthshire
Year of registration: 1919
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Thomas
Volume no: 11A
Page no: 536

Name: THOMAS, Matilda
Registration district: Newport (Monmouthshire)
County: Monmouthshire
Year of registration: 1919
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Thomas
Volume no: 11A
Page no: 536

Kath. x

Mike *

Mike * Report 9 Jun 2013 15:32


1911

married 3 years

Fred Thomas 30
Violet Thomas 21
William Thomas 2


poster doesn't mention a son William so maybe wrong couple

Reggie

Reggie Report 9 Jun 2013 15:42

Find the marriage on..................

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

WHEN were the sons born?

Reggie

Reggie Report 9 Jun 2013 15:45

You say Frederick 'lived' in Newport.............when was that.........and where was he born?

Is THIS his birth?

Births Sep 1880 (>99%)
THOMAS Frederick John Cardiff 11a 265

patchem

patchem Report 9 Jun 2013 15:51

Angela has Kenneth born in Newport in 1914 in her tree on here.

Added:
And Donald 1916.

And Norman, 1915.

Reggie

Reggie Report 9 Jun 2013 15:54

Thanks, Pat.............I do wish people would give all info when asking for help. There should be no need for such checking..............

Reggie

Reggie Report 9 Jun 2013 15:56

Births Dec 1916 (>99%)
Thomas Donald Edwards Newport M 11a 523

BUT..............no Kenneth in 1914

Reggie

Reggie Report 9 Jun 2013 16:00

No point in looking further until feedback is added..............

patchem

patchem Report 9 Jun 2013 16:00

I do not think the parents cross-check.
Sorry, internet very slow.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 9 Jun 2013 16:27

I can't find any of these boys names all with the same mother's maiden name.

We definitely need more information from Angela.

Kath. x

Mike *

Mike * Report 9 Jun 2013 16:44

Poster said Frederick was father to the boys.
Maybe they had different mothers.

Reggie

Reggie Report 9 Jun 2013 22:09

PM received.

Have advised Angela to respond on here...........but until she does

he lived in sutton rd newport ,all i know it that he died when i was about 5 ,which would be around 1955. kenneth was maried to trixie and lived in bridgend ,donald married lillian lived in llangwm moved to south africa and died there. daughter susan [widowed] and mother came back to newport ...thats all i have

Reggie

Reggie Report 9 Jun 2013 22:11

Guessing........again! But that's all we can do............

Marriages Mar 1945 (>99%)

EVANS Lilian M Thomas Newport 11a 450
Thomas Donald L Evans Newport 11a 450

Births Jun 1911 (>99%)
Thomas Donald L Newport M. 11a 228